Brandon Roy is no longer allowed to take breathers

by wilbjammin on Nov 14, 2008 8:05 PM PST Comment 26 comments

Other than Steve Blake with a +/- of only +2, Brandon Roy is the only Blazer with a positive +/- in the last game against Hornets at +5. That means, in the 6 minutes of the game that Roy wasn't in, the Blazers were outscored by 10 points. We need to do better than that; the bench needs to step up and, at the least, play some defense - try to at least stay even when Roy is out of the game.

http://stats.oregonlive.com/nba/boxscore.asp?gamecode=2008111403&home=3&vis=22

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yeah... and our offense needs to quick taking breathers late in the game

Our only two field goals in the last 7 minutes were Brandon’s two desperation three pointers.

New Orleans didn’t play very well tonight, but we were even worse. We need some consistency on the offensive end.

by Bust a Bucket on Nov 14, 2008 8:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

A guy like Bayless could have helped tonight

The Hornets pressured the Blazer guards to start the offense out of their comfort zone. They doubled the pick and roll and guards weren’t fast enough to turn the corner or make decisions. Not enough players attacking the hoop off the dribble. I think a player with the skillset of Bayless would be extremely helpful next time. Credit the Hornets, they played very hard on D and Blazers did a good job too.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Nov 14, 2008 8:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

thank you... our point guard production was terrible tonight

I don’t care how many turnovers they got… they simply were not a threat to the Hornets.

Bayless would be able to come in, hit a few mid-range jumpers, draw fouls and get our offense going in the second half when it seems to shut down.

by Bust a Bucket on Nov 14, 2008 8:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Unfortunatley the Blazers just weren't able to adjust to the pressure Defense

The players on the floor let it get them out of their rhythm, and coaching didn’t get an adjustment made.

Silver lining in the game with Greg Oden’s play, but with the stats that NO had the Blazers HAVE to win that game.

Rooo-D!

by truls on Nov 14, 2008 8:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

So far...

http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=1&season=22008&split=9&team=Trail%20Blazers

by shdk on Nov 14, 2008 8:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Bayless Is Coming

And when he does there will be no looking back.

Sergio, the clock is ticking…

The Oden era finally kicked into first gear tonight. It was worth the wait.

The Oden Era, Day 507

by Heymoe on Nov 14, 2008 8:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

When the Blazers start winning with Oden in the line up then they will introduce Bayless. Blazers will be a little sloppy for

a while with Bayless and then stabilize. They can only integrate one player at a time. Sergio’s clock is ticking.

I think the Blazers looked better in the 4th when Oden was out there. Too bad he wasn’t out there more because Roy and Aldridge could have got a better rhythm with him out there more.

by BRoyInThe4th on Nov 14, 2008 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't be too sure

about Sergio’s clock ticking.

He’s playing well.

It may be Blake’s clock that is ticking.

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by jscot on Nov 15, 2008 12:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

wasn't it LMA who's ticker wasn't ticking correctly?

I mean, if you had to guess…

by Bust a Bucket on Nov 15, 2008 12:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Why I think Sergio has done a fine job the last 3 games now he should NEVER shoot the ball. He is

I hated seeing him shoot the 3 ball. I don't even care if it goes in, if Sergio makes a shot it's bad. Sergio thinking that he is a good scorer is not something he should get in his head because he'll just think it's okay to chuck.

by BRoyInThe4th on Nov 14, 2008 9:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

wow, Sergio hate and the Bayless love

in this thread in over the top. Sergio played one of his best games tonight in relief of a foul plagued Blake. Bayless is not the savior of this team, and if he had played we had just as much of a chance of being blown out as we do of winning. Sergio helped keep this team close in the 2nd and even pull ahead by driving and dishing to open team mates. At one point the team had 17 straight FG’s that resulted in an assist, how crazy is that? That is Sergio positively affecting the game.

Give the haterade on sergio a break, he is playing the best ball of his Portland career. Bayless will get his shot if he proves it in practice.

by usmcr3049 on Nov 14, 2008 10:45 PM PST reply actions 1 recs

2nd half.

Sergio was pretty much useless in the second half. He racked up 5 assists in the 1st half when the Hornets were chasing him off the pick and roll. Once the Hornets adjusted by hedging on screens or sagging behind the screens, Sergio could not make much of an impact because he cannot shoot or finish. Sergio did not do much in the 2nd half. Oden, Aldridge, and Roy did the damage.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Nov 14, 2008 11:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It is a team problem

not an individual problem. I only heard the game on the radio, but it didn’t sound like Sergio was the problem.

If the Blazers can’t figure out how to stop teams scoring at a pace of about +2 points/minute when Roy is out of the game, that’s on everybody. I’d really like to see the tape of those 6 minutes when Roy went out to see what went wrong on defense. The offense without Roy is also a big concern, but like I said, for the whole game – six minutes without Roy was the statistical difference in the game – defense should be able to make up for that.

Chris Dudley for three!

by wilbjammin on Nov 14, 2008 10:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

This is my first post..

in about 7 months. Mainly a lurker. However, I have to find the reaction to one loss after two fantastic victories a little overblown. Suddenly, consistency is asked from the bench after two 40 + point performances. Granted, 40 points can’t be expected a night, I find it disheartening that all of the sudden, Roy can’t take breathers and the bench is horrible because it had an off night. New Orleans is a good team in the Western Conference. We are going to lose games. Sometimes we won’t look the best losing games. Instead of dishing blame on one player (Sergio) who had some fantastic number of assists, let us remember that these things happen. Teams lose.

by isoldout on Nov 14, 2008 11:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

don't sell out to the patience-mongers isoldout...

if we’re going to make a serious run this year, we have to win games that are winable, especially ones on the road.

by Bust a Bucket on Nov 14, 2008 11:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You mean like

the ones in Orlando and Miami? We’ve got 2 of 3 winnable games on this trip, and none of them were against pushover teams.

The impressive thing is that we kept this in the “winnable” category right until the end against a truly elite team.

by jscot on Nov 15, 2008 12:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, but i still don't know if we were the reason it was winnable

or if they played poorly tonight.

I would say that the Hornets didn’t play well… or you could spin that and say we played good defense against them.

by Bust a Bucket on Nov 15, 2008 12:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I was just making a point

that when Roy wasn’t in the game, that’s when everything went wrong. That’s a problem, Roy shouldn’t have to play 42 minutes a game – we need him to stay fresh through the season, which is why these numbers are troubling. I’d like to see, at least, the defense able to keep the game basically even when he’s out.

Chris Dudley for three!

by wilbjammin on Nov 16, 2008 10:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Just the Facts

Greg is the real deal. And we can finally see that. He played well against an excellent center and team. That’s the good news. At the same time, Outlaw and Batum gave us only 6 pts in 25 minutes – showing us why we are all looking forward to get Martel back in a few weeks. Because Roy, Sergio and Blake played 89 minutes, leaving only 7 minutes at the guard slots, Rudy ended up playing 22 of his 29 minutes at SF.

The bottom line for me is that we’ll win a lot of games with our line-up, but the PG slot with it’s 5 pts in 47 minutes was the problem. The 11 assists were fine, but the Hornets virtually ignored Sergio/Blake and routinely doubled up on Roy/Rudy. Sergio is proving he can play quality minutes, but unless he can over-come his lack of point production, I don’t see how he can ever be an effective #1 PG. In the first 9 games, he’s played 115 minutes but scored only 21 pts. Further, he’s only .214 on his 3 pointers. Blake, on the other hand, has played 283 minutes and scored 87 points. Combined, we’re getting 12 ppg out of the PG slot. Better, but not great. Sergio is better on the assist side – but other teams are learning that they can ignore him on the offensive end.

And that’s the issue he now has to deal with. Eventually, it’s going to limit him.

by Eben Calder on Nov 15, 2008 6:27 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Until GOD arrives in full force,

it wouldn’t hurt if they quit chuckin threes. Maybe they could attack the basket a little, especially LA. Everytime they throw up one of those wild-arse threes it just sucks the air out.

by oregonslee on Nov 15, 2008 1:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

What is +/-?

by tominhawaii on Nov 15, 2008 11:50 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

It is...

How many points your team scores vs the other team while one player is in the game. In other words, while BRoy was in the game we outscored the hornets by 2. So when he was not in the game we got outscored by 5.

by ericande on Nov 15, 2008 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

What if the other team has Kobe?

by tominhawaii on Nov 15, 2008 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

We shouldn't have an issue with him much longer

Sophia (I think it was) is going to seduce him and take out his kneecaps.

by ericande on Nov 16, 2008 10:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

+/- is one of those stats that tells you a lot…. or nothing at all. You have to take in context. It’s likely at the end of the year many players on Portland’s bench will have a solid +/- and maybe better than our starters but it doesn’t mean they are better than the starters… just better than who they matched up against.

by ericande on Nov 15, 2008 3:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs