Colin Cowherd is a douche.
Honestly, I'd love to take a swing at this effin twerp. I don't know who is more annoying, Colin Cowherd or snarky, talking heads like Tony Kornheiser. ESPN, in my humble opinion, is continually feeding into the lame, fickle sports mentality and sports fandom that is so prevalent today. It's starting to seem that the only opinion and editorials that I can digest nowadays come directly from the ESPN Ombudsman, Le Anne Schreiber. She is disciplined in her viewpoints, is fair, consistent and unbiased. But, I digress.
Let me state that my sour grapes with Herd is not homerism either. I am a fan that can take criticism for "my" team when it is constructive, precise and honest.
This is more about the snickering, condescending, salty tone of this dude. I'm aware that it's his job to provoke, but he needs some class and precision. He's clearly attempting to play the role of the guy-who-calls-it-like it is but his viewpoint is neither valid, valuable or original. He is curt, topical and hackneyed. Colin Cowherd is a parrot. The punny title of his show, "the Herd" is fitting, being that it's what he seems to follow...the herd. Centrally, I mainly take issue with Cowherd basically laughing at Greg Oden and singling out the Blazer fans as completely delusional.
I don't buy the "first impressions" theory or the "injury prone" thing. I can cite some recent examples. Amare took a while to come back after surgery, he looked completely ginger and awkward in his comeback. Andrew Bynum took several years to develop and was routinely injured. Remember Kobe throwing him under the bus? Look at Gilbert Arenas. Can that guy stay healthy for a whole season? I just don't understand the extra scrutiny Greg is under.
I'm starting to get really pissed about all the Greg Oden haterade. It seems to be a typical case of the media building people up to tear them down. Just watch the video:
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god it's gonna feel good emailing him come the end of the season...
do we have his email address?
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by faith on Nov 14, 2008 5:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I can't stand him
for the same reasons you mentioned. It’s hard to believe this guy ever worked in Portland.
by Stryder9 on Nov 14, 2008 6:20 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yea I remember...
Yikes!!
Let RudyMania Reign!!
by DowntownChinatown on Nov 14, 2008 7:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even need to view that clip to know he's a fool
And worse he’s an extremely arrogant fool.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Nov 14, 2008 6:46 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
yeah
man the things he was saying were so iritating like he said we dont need him to be a twenty ten guy duh we just need him to be a rebounder and a shot blocker you could see in the heat game with him just sitting in the lane the players had to arch their shot to get it over him thats the type of things we need from him.
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by BLAZERS#52 on Nov 14, 2008 7:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad 95.5 came so I could finally listen to morning sports radio without listen to this joke
by thomasikehara on Nov 14, 2008 7:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, 95.5 is well on the way to being even more irritating.
by raoulduke on Nov 14, 2008 10:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Chad in Portland" or CIP is how he likes to address himself will be the death of mondern radio.
I would say he sucks but making that statement would have me assume there’s something there to begin with. And CIP is the very opposite of substance, rational thought, or even decent analysis. CIP is the living embodiment of mediocrity that I do so hate.
It’s like they purposely found the most redundant human being on the face of the earth and put him on the air.
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Nov 14, 2008 10:53 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And he is a clone
One Jim Rome is enough. I don’t have a problem with Rome ..per se…. but someone who blantantly rips off his schtick and does it badly. ChimpInPortland should just shut his Laker-Lovin’ Bi-Curious yap. Sorry for being blunt
"Fez, the foundation of any good relationship is three little words: I-don't-know.
What're you doing? I don't know.
What're you thinking about? I don't know.
Who's that under you? I don't know. "
-Michael Kelso
by 92wastheyear on Nov 14, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He makes some good points
he’s arrogant about the points, but that doesn’t detract from the fact they’re good points. You just don’t want to hear them.
I’m willing to give Oden some leeway because he’s been out an entire year. Before the summer hype I expected him rusty as heck. So despite what Cowherder says and that fact a lot of it is true, Oden could be the exception. Twenty games please. Then lets see.
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on Nov 14, 2008 7:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
He is right in that hype builds up quickly and people are not ready to accept the opposite when it comes to their players
He is not right in that you can instantly recognize a future basketball star by watching a player for the first time. And neither is Simmons.
by Norsktroll on Nov 14, 2008 7:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Their analysis is flawed beyond the point of what's acceptable
Both fail to compare/contrast Oden to players that went through the same process as him. Saying Oden had microfracture surgery is not an excuse, it completely determines the players he should be associated and compared with. Amare is the only big man I can think of.
Then, you can add in that he had no league experience. Cowherd and Simmons also conveniently forgot to inclue Yao in their comparisons. He had similar numbers in more minutes.
Seriously, these guys can make it in pop-culture analysis because their listeners aren’t astute, trained and critical. Put these guys in a setting where you’ve got a highly educated, intelligent audience and they’d be laughed out of the building. I’m not saying they’re wrong, but if they’re right, it was luck and intuition. Intelligence played no role. I pity them.
I like Simmons, but his analysis is significantly impaired to the point of irrelevance (in this case). Cowherd’s merely riding his coattails and deserves no attention whatseover.
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by hobobob on Nov 14, 2008 8:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He is a link of Kobe's first season
Cowherd asserts that you just knew when looking at Kobe in his 1st game he was a star…..ah…no.
"Fez, the foundation of any good relationship is three little words: I-don't-know.
What're you doing? I don't know.
What're you thinking about? I don't know.
Who's that under you? I don't know. "
-Michael Kelso
by 92wastheyear on Nov 14, 2008 8:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Right, Kobe only scored 1 his second game
So, Oden should be averaging 60 in 5 years
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by hobobob on Nov 14, 2008 9:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I basically wrote the same thing in the first Cowherd post
You can tell immediately if a player will be a star. No you can’t.
He claims Kobe Bryant was "special" the first time he saw him running up the floor. No he was not. That’s not your memory speaking but seeing him as a star player now for years and years! In his first two years, he rarely started. For good reasons. I remember his first playoff series, and he shot horrible air-balls you would never see from him now again. You might also remember he won the MVP award in his first season. Or at least the Rookie of the Year. False memories. He won nothing. He was "All-Rookie Second Team". Because people had better first impressions of Allen Iverson (ROY), Marcus Camby, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Stephon Marbury (yeah, that Marbury) and — wait for it — Antoine Walker. First impressions can be so wrong it’s not even funny.
by Norsktroll on Nov 14, 2008 1:41 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Well said....exactly!
"Fez, the foundation of any good relationship is three little words: I-don't-know.
What're you doing? I don't know.
What're you thinking about? I don't know.
Who's that under you? I don't know. "
-Michael Kelso
by 92wastheyear on Nov 14, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
He dismisses Oden’s defense like it doesn’t mean anything. He looks like a 7 foot Ben Wallace and apparently that is a bad thing. To me that just means Oden is destined to win several defensive player of the year awards. Aren’t championships are built on defense?
by Nick Van Excellent on Nov 14, 2008 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good find - here is Oden's comparison
through three games
Notice the game score on the right (Hollinger’s measure of a single game value). Oden is blowing up compared to the other player not to be named.
when you’ve been in a dry land even a little dew looks inviting —Dave
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn." - Tom Landry
by lee3022 on Nov 15, 2008 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I notice his blocks are doubling with each outing.
That means we’ll see 8 tonight, and 16 against GS, right? ;)
by zaruga on Nov 15, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
he not only makes good points, and, even though it is peer speculation, it has the best basis for making accurate comments…..= simple observation or his play, compared to people in his pier group…..It is far more accurate than fans jumping on the greatness wagon……and actually hoping he gets better……
Cowherd has a sports background and has better qualifications to judge talent than most BE people..(sorry folks, it’s not a slam nor is it a sin to be good fans)…..
The book is not closed on Oden …..he could emerge, but it is not likely he will be an offensive threat……If you watched him play in college, you would see several more games that could back this up…..He’s slow, lethargic, mechanical, lumbering…lacks fundamentals and intensity….If he is the shining star to be, he does not show play that would lead anyone to conclude it will become reality…In other words, Cowherd has gone out on a limb (not for him)and predicted that he won’t be…..but he has the strongest case…..and proof otherwise is in (and will be in) Oden’s play……..
I’m willing to concede the first half of the season…but were talking about dramatic improvement here. It is not about being fair to the guy, it is about his play as an individual and what it means to the team….And he may not turn out to be a dominate big man (liked hoped), but he still could be a contributor to his team, in many ways….
After watching him play in college, I wondered whether this guy was or would become a player….I was amazed that he came out after his first year….He was a dramatic big man, but not overly impressive….He just had the presence and I’m sure NBA scouts were drooling over potential…If I had the # 1 pick I would have taken him again and again…..But I would also be second guessing myself, because of the very same thing Cowherd has done…..simple observation of his play = ??? ( meaning he is a big, dominate (college) player, that still needs to prove he has what it takes to be a worthy # 1 pick) Cowherd is simply saying he is nothing special and will fall short of “Franchise player” they hoped to get
Many in here say…you need to have patience…..Yup, we do…. and I do…..but patience measured from hope will always have fragility…..The truth is in his play and not what people say….So we move on and hope he proves his skeptics wrong……
by 67 on Nov 15, 2008 9:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Oden had Rex's personality and Przybilla's play-by-play work ethic........... THEN he'd have a CHANCE to live up to the Wilt/Russell hype...
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by timbo on Nov 15, 2008 12:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's wrong
He’s comparing the first time he watched Oden with the first time he saw Allen Iverson and David Robinson. Concluding that because Oden wasn’t as affective that somehow that means Oden isn’t going to be an offensive star in the league.
Well wrong. First of all, no excuses but Oden has been injured. He’s been out for about a year and a half. To me, it’s pretty impressive he looks as good as he does. Sorry Collin but Oden get’s some time to get in shape. AI and David Robinson didn’t need it.
I don’t care about his opinion so much. But he cops out. First he hedges it by saying Oden won’t be an “offensive” star. Leaving the door open if Oden becomes a dominating defensive center. Then he makes attempts at humor by comparing Odens offensive game to recent financial collapses while smugly looking over at the girl like “Look I’m being Funny”. Yes, it’s the " Let’s tear down Oden" wave that is passing through the weaker minds of the Basketball world. Collin just proved himself a weaker mind.
As far as an offensive game? Right now The Blazers offense isn’t built around using Oden. He’s been gone. Right now Oden isn’t ready to be a focal point of an offense. But if you aknowledge his defensive skills, then the same speed, quickness and timing that makes him an defensive presence can also be used to make him an offensive player. It’s not a cop out, or homer stance, it’s going to take some time for that all to come around for Oden. I’m upset at a media that is so willing to attack Oden based on one thing. He hasn’t become the “instant” superstar they thought he would be. Well too bad kids, sometimes it takes some time and work. You want Instant? Get a cup of Coffee.
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
by Krang on Nov 14, 2008 8:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure that "they" are attacking him
Cowherd makes his money by being a dick. That being said he is not attacking Oden’s character, the effort he has put in, etc… He is saying that on first glance, Oden has been horrible.
It’s True. He has not done one good thing yet in the NBA. Not One.
I don’t agree that Oden’s career is destined for mediocrity, because I think that there are a lot of thing that can change, but for now, we have a slow, offensively incapable, way overhyped backup center.
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by everett on Nov 14, 2008 8:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh God...
I just read that, and realized that I run the risk of getting exiled from the B-Edge community for that one.
For the record,
I am not saying I agree with Cowherd’s conclusion, just his rationale.
I heart taxes.
by everett on Nov 14, 2008 8:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Blocks? They're nothing? They're not good?
His D looked fine the other night?
If you agree with his rationale, you’re crazy. To compare a player to other’s whose only common traits are body resemblance without comparing also their experience and to extrapolate on that basis is a fundamentally flawed rationale. Simply predicting future performace based on the past preformance (while sometimes good) is flawed if you fail to take into account extenuating circumstances.
You may say that Oden’s done very little in an NBA game to this point, but to deny all previous expectations and assessments based on more than one game adn factor is probably going to get you laughed at. One game is one game. Recovery is recovery. Not playing is not playing. Out of shape is out of shape. Learning is learning. Nerves and anxiety are nerves and anxiety. Potential is potential. These things are not excuses for how Greg played. They are factors to be considered when trying to determine his future. Failure to include those factors results in a horrid rationale.
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by hobobob on Nov 14, 2008 8:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry for calling you crazy. I forgot I did that and meant to erase it.
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by hobobob on Nov 14, 2008 8:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
but you’re right. First glance Oden was horrible and looks horrible. Even in preseason he looked ugly be he was also doing something.
It’ll come.
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on Nov 14, 2008 11:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Does his use of "whelmed scale"
Indicate that he is B-edge reader?
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by everett on Nov 14, 2008 8:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Got it t, that was from Bill Simmons' column.
So does Simmons read B-Edge?
I heart taxes.
by everett on Nov 14, 2008 8:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably more likely that J-Quick's article made the rounds
It’s probably easiest for most of these “entertainers” to sound like they know what they’re talking about by reading the take of local writers and then regurgitating.
by shralpster on Nov 14, 2008 9:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
His use of "whelmed"
His use of “Whelmed” just goes to show that he isn’t creative enough to come up with his own ideas.
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
by Krang on Nov 14, 2008 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One more thing:
Did anyone predict Oden would be an offensive star? Everything I’ve heard points to him being defensive oriented. That’s half the game. AI plays no D (although he got a bunch of steals, it was a gamble and he often paid for the attempt), and yet Cowherd never bashed AI for only being an offensive start.
Was Cowherd actually paying any attention, then? The guy basically exposed himself as a limited pundit, one who can only think of stars in terms of offense. Let’s just hope that one day Cowherd meets Ben Wallace, Oden in a dark alley.
Oh and all sports radio guys are complete tools. The way they use those pauses and repetitive phrases to eat up time simply shows they have very little to contribute. If my friends talked to me like that, I’d slap them and tell them that need to only say something once and they better not contrive to make it sound special.
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by hobobob on Nov 14, 2008 8:38 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
You'd slap your friend?
Well, I guess I would too, if he talked to me like Cowherd or Rome.
I don’t listen to Dan Patrick often so I don’t know his opinions but at least I can stomach his style.
by shralpster on Nov 14, 2008 9:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd also slap Tom Lycos and Howard Stern
Did you happen to see the latest Soth Park? That’s the kind of slapping I’m talking about.
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by hobobob on Nov 14, 2008 10:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've said from the start
that Oden is going to be special and affect the team and the league in a major way. But my assumption has been that his defense, size, and relative agility are his main calling cards. If it was just an offensive game many great centers will outstrip Oden by a mile.
That said, all Oden needs to do in order to have a (relative, for him) offensive explosion is to develop one bankable move besides the dunk. Any turn-around, any jump hook will open up the short game AND the dunk for him. Plus every offensive rebound he gets will be a dunk. Plus when he’s recovered fully and can jump straight up with effect again the guards are just going to start lobbing him alley-oops. He will never, ever be Patrick Ewing nor will he pour in as many as Shaq. But he will be good enough offensively and a terror defensively and on the boards.
—Dave
by Dave on Nov 15, 2008 12:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Look at Amare. He was REALLY rough when he came back from micro
He ended up having to have surgery on his other knee once or twice and looked horrible in summer league afterwards. Look at him now!
Oden was raw before the surgery. This set him back a year or two. Let him get his body right and his wind and then give him some time to develop for goodness sakes. He has wonderful defensive instincts and the the athletic tools to become a force on offense. It is going to take TIME.
I'm a little confused by your tactics
by oderiferous emanations 74 on Nov 14, 2008 8:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
You know...it isn't really about the message
Cowherd thinks that Oden won’t be a really effect offensive player…ok…maybe not. What really chaps me is the condecending BS about us…specifically Blazer fans. That is bush league …..get on your national radio show and basically call us stupid because we have the audacity to actually think that Oden might get better and play better than the 29 min stretch of his career might indicate so far….oh we are the delusional ones, huh?
"Fez, the foundation of any good relationship is three little words: I-don't-know.
What're you doing? I don't know.
What're you thinking about? I don't know.
Who's that under you? I don't know. "
-Michael Kelso
by 92wastheyear on Nov 14, 2008 8:53 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
He's always been condescending
He’s taking revenge for those high school years when you know he got the s kicked out of him on a daily basis.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Nov 14, 2008 9:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that and it gets great read
i mean, we’re all talking about it here and we know he’s wrong, but we’re TALKiNG.
Greg’s been ugly, he won’t always be ugly. The end. Well… I’m talking about his game here. I’m not going to judge his looks. I do know he’s not hella cute like rudy and batum.
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on Nov 14, 2008 11:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm mocking really, rather than talking about anything he said
I admit when I hear Colin Cowherd speak, it’s tough to refrain from insulting him. I used to listen to his local radio show, but his ego ran unchecked and ruined it for me.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Nov 14, 2008 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cowherd is indeed a douch...and a tool who loves the sound of his own voice.
I didn’t watch the video because, after having listened to Cowherd too many times in the past, I know exactly what he will say and how he will say it… plus at this point the sound of his voice on any topic just makes we want to vomit and throw something at the radio. He is smug, arrogant, condescending, and generally quite ignorant.
Did I mention that I can’t stand Cowheard and his opinion carries no credibility with me? That being said, he is hardly alone and this assessment has become quite fashionable. I was sitting in the stands for the opener against the Lakers when Oden got hurt and limped around for about 12 minutes. I had to listen to an ignorant Laker fan proclaiming that Oden was a bust and a wasted pick. I wanted to turn around and punch the guy….fortunately better judgement prevailed.
I wish we could keep a file on all the “experts” who are ready bury Oden after 2 short cameo appearances, after not appearing in a real game for over a year and a half and recovering from major knee surgery (I am an MD and microfracture is major knee surgery). I would like to hear their re-assessments in 6 months or a year from now…
by socalblazer on Nov 14, 2008 9:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ya, Oden stuffed Bynum right off the bat. And tried to play hurt the rest of the game
That got in Bynum’s head
I'm a little confused by your tactics
by oderiferous emanations 74 on Nov 14, 2008 9:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Douche? Yes. Smart?
On this one he is.
He’s getting hammered by 95.5 The Game in the mornings now. He needs to drive some listenership back in. The best way to do that is to fire up the local fanbase by saying something controversial… even if it is stupid.
Apparently it’s working.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 14, 2008 9:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Firing up and completely turning off people are things that often get confused my morons?
Not you. Cowherd. There’s a difference between playing on fear, and insulting someone. I’ll never listen to that tool again.
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by hobobob on Nov 14, 2008 10:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I quit listening long ago...
but he’s obviously struck a chord and I’m sure it’s spreading through Blazermaniacville with blogs such as this.
Now people will respond to the Big Douche himself and listen for his response. Maybe some will get hooked again.
The local boys talk about the Blazers WAAAAAAY more driving up local ratings, but I don’t think they have such a quality product as to retain people if they’re always so negative. Cowherd, being a national show, surely knows how to stir the pot and get people to turn the dial to his broadcast.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 14, 2008 10:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too....
I also stopped listening to him a long ago… Now just the sound of his voice turns me off. I much prefer Dan Patrick.
by socalblazer on Nov 14, 2008 10:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Colin had seen Amare Stoudemire
play in Summer League a couple of years ago after he came back from microfracture, I can only imagine the comments:
“He has lost his super-athleticism. Lost it. It’s gone. Never coming back. He’ll never be the same player that he was before the surgery.”
I’ll be the first to admit that Oden doesn’t look the same. But I’m not worried. It’s going to be a long road back. I honestly don’t expect to see the ‘real’ Greg Oden this season. If we do, it won’t be until very late in the season.
That’s going off of watching guys like Stoudemire, Randolph and Kidd recover from their surgeries. It takes 2 years to get back to looking ‘right’. And Greg’s only had one year.
by Storyteller on Nov 14, 2008 10:03 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Even a year won't tell the whole story
I think we’re 5 years away form this guy being fully acclimated and in his prime. I can’t understand why all the pundits have such short vision.
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by hobobob on Nov 14, 2008 10:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember Amare got so frustrated that he considered retiring
There are both physical and mental hurdles to overcome
I'm a little confused by your tactics
by oderiferous emanations 74 on Nov 14, 2008 10:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
how about Yao Ming and Steve Nash?
I wonder what Colin’s first impression of Yao Ming and Steve Nash was?
by ItsMrHarris2u on Nov 14, 2008 10:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
i hate to say it
but he’s soooooooooooooooooooooo right about a lot of you people in this chatroom i said over a year and a half ago about certain people jumping on the blazer express once they got the #1 pick in the draft i wondered out loud in this same chatroom if pricthard would’ve taken durant over oden how the reaction would’ve been in portland i still see the image of 1 idiot getting on his knees praising god saying “our savior” is finally arrived then he started saying championships also the people who all of the sudden started talking dynasty and yet nationally 2 weeks ago mcmillian said the lakers are the present and the blazers are the future the national media started saying no nate the lakers are the present and the future my point is like i’ved been saying for awhile now a lot of you have to start facing reality it’s going to take a couple of years before this team will start competing for titles and as for oden get over it he has no offensive game period and for those of you and many of you people fit this category BRANDON ROY=THE FRANCHISE PERIOD !!!!
by fatty on Nov 14, 2008 10:32 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
fatty...
were you at the Sports Page for breakfast yesterday?
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 14, 2008 11:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you need to calm down sir.
"if i started a beer company and sold one beer for every time he(timbo) replied to himself, i'd be a millionaire, check that, a billionaire". - prezofdeath
"14 points, 13 rebounds, 2 blocks, no turnovers. Standing ovation for Travis tonight." - Dave
by Outlaw is Rejector on Nov 14, 2008 11:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
haha, yeah
I read that and think “geez, take a breath.”
by shralpster on Nov 14, 2008 11:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That is great STYLE!!!
……………………………….. and right enough content.
"Sergio is clearly the MJ of 3rd string point guards!" —Mortimer Pritchard
by timbo on Nov 15, 2008 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we'd be further along if greg hadn't been injured
He IS our missing piece. He was the right pick over durant. Durant has to be AMAZINGLY GREAT for it to be wrong while oden just has to be good.
His offensive game is rough, his defense and rebounding are there. That’s what we need. We can also grab up scraps and put them home.
His offensive game will improve and he’ll be deadly.
The offense will take a season or two to start to get nailed down. After that, he’ll be finessing it all the way to a championship.
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on Nov 14, 2008 11:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love fattyness
rec’d
I've got a plan......we lob up a bad shot that Dwight can block, but we do it in such a way that it hits either Rashard or Hedo in the head knocking them out for the game.
--Magnum
by prezofdeath on Nov 14, 2008 11:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That is one fantasic
run-on sentence.
If you're paddling upstream in a canoe and a wheel falls off, how many pancakes fit in a doghouse? None! Ice cream has no bones!
by Arby on Nov 14, 2008 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome home, fatty!
+1
"Sergio is clearly the MJ of 3rd string point guards!" —Mortimer Pritchard
by timbo on Nov 15, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
*yawn*
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"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Nov 15, 2008 8:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's awesome
He is obviously just trying to get a reaction. You don’t say, “Never, ever, ever, ever,” if you’re trying to convince people you’re right. It’s not biggy, just typical radio host trying to get a reaction. When Oden proves him wrong, Cowherd will act like his statements never left his lips. Radio host only remember what they said when they can say, “I told you so.”
by tominhawaii on Nov 14, 2008 10:32 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
get over
the fact that oden is the so called franchise of this team don’t get me wrong people i’m not hating on him i’m just saying let this kid develop his offensive skills and by the 2011-12 season when this group will be ready to take over this league oden should be a 14-16.pts 12.rebs 3.5 blks a game player wacth out batum is the dirty work young b.bowen type of guy this franchise badly lacked and with roy*aldridge*m.j.*trout offensively these guys can score their only setback is that they really need a real floor general a guy who can get each player to where they feel comfortable to get points a pg like t.j.ford would be a perfect fit for this team imho so enjoy the journey and let g.oden grow to be the player we all feel he will be in time like somebody said earlier patience people patience book it!!!
by fatty on Nov 14, 2008 10:44 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget Rudy
"Fez, the foundation of any good relationship is three little words: I-don't-know.
What're you doing? I don't know.
What're you thinking about? I don't know.
Who's that under you? I don't know. "
-Michael Kelso
by 92wastheyear on Nov 14, 2008 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that's
mj. It’s an OOOOOOOOLLLDDD fatty-ism. P.S. Welcome back fatty!
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
by Idog1976 on Nov 14, 2008 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah...thanks for the upday
I missed Fatty 1.0
"Fez, the foundation of any good relationship is three little words: I-don't-know.
What're you doing? I don't know.
What're you thinking about? I don't know.
Who's that under you? I don't know. "
-Michael Kelso
by 92wastheyear on Nov 14, 2008 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's Fatty forever point O
Book it! I was away for a bit. Did you all welcome him back with a parade?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Nov 15, 2008 11:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone with half a brain can see that Oden does not have the same explosiveness or agility
that he had before the surgery. I don’t think we will see that back until next season.
I listen to Herd on my way to work every morning…and he is very predictable about who is going to bang on. Wade Phillips, the National League in MLB, Michael Vick, LeBron James, and the bane of his existance the Big 10…especially Ohio State. My feeling is, he gets a little thrill out of criticizing the big man from Ohio State.
He’s in love with Kobe Bryant, Tom Brady/Bill Belicheck, American League MLB, and himself…according to him, he has never been wrong…oh yeah…except the SuperBowl last year and the NBA Championship series just to name a couple. Though, I still listen to him. He is funny.
by JasonT on Nov 14, 2008 10:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
jason t
i’m with you my man he’s sooooooooooooo wrong half of the time but he is funny and don’t forget his mancrush with a.bynum*usc football and tina faye !!!!!
by fatty on Nov 14, 2008 11:00 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Man crush with Tina Faye?
I thought she (or I guess he) looked kinda funny
I heart taxes.
by everett on Nov 14, 2008 11:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
totally forgot USC football
how could I forget that one? Which reminds me? Why does he never bang on Matt Leinart?
By the way, did you hear him this morning singing Brett Farve’s praises, after he has spent the whole season criticizing him? The guy has the best case of convenient amnesia I’ve ever heard.
by JasonT on Nov 14, 2008 11:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I vote SBN needs to have a modification to their software whereby everything fatty posts automatically goes green...
"Sergio is clearly the MJ of 3rd string point guards!" —Mortimer Pritchard
by timbo on Nov 15, 2008 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Green for Envy, Nausea, or because it Money Every Time?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Nov 15, 2008 11:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So many of these media types are ready to jump on the Oden is a bust bandwagon
Because controversy is always a better story than a feel good story like Oden returning from microfracture. People like Colin love to be able to say “I told you so”. It’s not that i entirely disagree with all of his points but i disagree with Colin’s motives for making these statements so early into the season.
by Jiggamant on Nov 14, 2008 11:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Kornheiser is a baller
I heard he is kind of a psycho in real life, but he is at least a great sports guy and has a life outside of sports.
M, period. Fresh, comma.
by manzell on Nov 14, 2008 11:28 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
He's real nice in real life
I’ve met him a couple times. And his writing for the Wa. Post was pretty good most of the time. It’s not easy for bright guys to take the trip over to television.
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Nov 15, 2008 11:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah jason t
remember 2-3 years ago vick was 10x better than favre and also blazers thank-you for the kind words my man book it !!!!
by fatty on Nov 14, 2008 11:30 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Vick has always sucked hard
Sorry to spoil the delusion
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Nov 14, 2008 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
like i said
blazers you’re da man book it baby !!!!!!!!
by fatty on Nov 14, 2008 11:47 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Cowherd
is an idiot. Really? You can’t hide on an NBA court? Marcus Camby anyone? I think he’s had a stroke.
Oden=2009 ROY
by berrygraham on Nov 14, 2008 11:50 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
maybe because
i’m not an inspiring english professor wannabe like some people dude lol.
by fatty on Nov 14, 2008 12:01 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
like i said
blazers you are the main man dude keep up the great work.
by fatty on Nov 14, 2008 12:03 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
why u gotta hate on Tony Kornheiser too?
i love him and michael wilbon on PTI…that and watching woody paige on around the horn
by shushu on Nov 14, 2008 12:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
tony kornheiser
can be a real a*** when he want’s to be he’s so red sox*yankees and dallas cowboys crazy and a big g.oden hater
by fatty on Nov 14, 2008 12:10 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
fatty my man
you need to do a fanpost/diary sometime. i haven’t seen one from ya’ since you got back from your one year banishment. you need a fatty is BACK post so you can share some wisdom with us.
I've got a plan......we lob up a bad shot that Dwight can block, but we do it in such a way that it hits either Rashard or Hedo in the head knocking them out for the game.
--Magnum
by prezofdeath on Nov 14, 2008 12:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
prezofdeath
thank-you sincerely 1.st of all it feels good to be back with you guys and it’ll come real soon so far so good the blazers in 08-09 when i see something i don’t like you all will hear about it book it babee lol !!!!
by fatty on Nov 14, 2008 12:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And if you can, tell us where you have been, what you have seen...
and why they did not allow you access to a computer.
I look forward to Booking It
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Nov 15, 2008 11:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Everett....O'le Chappy!
That British accent threw me off!…because I went to the dictionary and the d word meant:
Pronunciation: \ˈdik\
Function: noun
Etymology: Dick, nickname for Richard
Date: 1553
1chiefly British : fellow , chap
…so you should be ok!….just remember that some words have different meaning here! :)
by blazersrock on Nov 14, 2008 12:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm really not sure what this is all about.
Is that a banned word? if so I am sorry, and feel free in the future to just say so.
I heart taxes.
by everett on Nov 14, 2008 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cowherd is partially right...
Oden never will be a premier scorer. Which is not what we need. We need a Mutombo type. 10 PPG, 12 rpg and 3 bpg in his prime. He’ll be a fourth option behind, LMA, Roy, Rudy and Martell. Travis, assumming he stays in Portland long-term is probably an option before him. At best he’ll be the 3rd option in front of Martell in the starting lineup. How many third options get 20+ points per game. None.
The Blazers don’t need scoring, at all. So Oden doesn’t need to score. It is that simple.
by Grey Home on Nov 14, 2008 1:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Cowherd reminds me of an old lady with the clap
just seems irritated and is irritating all the time.
by Bust a Bucket on Nov 14, 2008 2:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm reccing this post just to see this headline for a couple of days.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
by blzrfan on Nov 14, 2008 2:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Like you didnt know this?
He is a no talent hack. never has been good, never will be good. I didnt watch the video or read anything he said above. I have no idea what he said about Oden. Know why? Because my retarded 100 year old grandmothers blind dog knows more about sports than Coward.
The fact anyone listens to him is amazing. What a dbag
"Why would we lie to ourselves dude?"
"Be excellent to each other."
"All we are is dust in the wind, dude."
"Strange things are afoot at the Circle K."
The Wisdom of Bill S Preston Esquire and Ted Theodore Logan
by GreatOden'sRaven on Nov 14, 2008 2:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
all you really need to say
Cowherd is a douche. It’s called rehabbing from surgery. Douche.
Douche.
by 50backflips on Nov 14, 2008 3:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Even if Cowherd
possessed the wisdom of Oliver Wendell Holmes; understood hoops as well as Red Holzman; and articulated his thoughts with the wit and erudition of the incomparable A.J. Liebling, I’d still find him unlistenable.
It’s the voice.
That nasal, whiny, petulant voice. I actually tried listening to him a few times back when I lived in Portland and he was still a local on-air personality there. But I always turned him off after a minute or so. I just could never get past that voice.
by knickfan on Nov 14, 2008 4:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
11pts/11rbs/4blks
Take that Craven Cowturd
"Fez, the foundation of any good relationship is three little words: I-don't-know.
What're you doing? I don't know.
What're you thinking about? I don't know.
Who's that under you? I don't know. "
-Michael Kelso
by 92wastheyear on Nov 14, 2008 7:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wHAT NOW
COWHOLE!
Blazer's fan since '84, Currently exiled in San Antonio
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A
by HurraKane212 on Nov 14, 2008 8:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
While Colin Cowherd is a blowhard who oftentimes spouts hyperbole, he's got a valid point here, but ...
his remark about always being able to spot a future superstar from a mile away was complete and utter tripe.
Greg Oden doesn’t possess the the overpowering strength of Shaquille O’Neal, the inherent athleticism of Hakeem Olajuwon, the refined skill set of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, or the amazing all-around package of Wilt Chamberlain — which is all stuff that some folks hilariously claimed to be true at different points during the past few years — however, he’s still capable of soon developing into the second-coming of Patrick Ewing.
Anyhow, it’s difficult for me to seriously acknowledge anyone’s claims against Cowherd — who, without a doubt, is notorious for spewing complete and utter bull**** at times during his radio program — when they throw around inane terms like “douche” and whatnot like whiny, petulant children. Besides, it comes across as nothing more than pure, unadulterated homerism.
At any rate, though, I’d much rather have Oden on the Blazers than the immensely overrated Kevin Durant.
by AK1984 on Nov 14, 2008 10:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Cowherd really doesn't understand basketball
He compares players of different calibers, positions to Greg Oden’s situation.
Take for example the Shaq, Kareem, and Wilt comparisons. He immediately makes this assumption that Greg Oden should be those molds. But he’s not. Everyone who really understands Greg Oden knows he came with the following: strength, athleticism, defense. He didn’t have a go to hook shot or some tricky fadeaway. But should one center be compared to other different centers and make assumptions that he has to be that kinda player or else.
If first impressions do matter, which they do, then does it make sense to say that Kobe was going to be what he is today. He seems to be discounting Kobe’s rookie year, which frankly wasn’t that impressive. Sure it showed potential, but apparently Cowherd doesn’t think that matters. If it’s downside, not upside, then you can’t help but pay attention to those Kobe moments where he didn’t look like he could change.
You can’t judge a player from one day, which the media does.
Look at Michael Jordan. Everyone knew he was a scorer, but didn’t know much else. People claimed he was one dimensional and could only score? That he couldn’t defend. He then went on to claim a defensive player of the year award as one of two guards in history to win the award. If not MJ, then look at other big men that see the game as a marathon. Dwight Howard, Yao Ming, Jermaine O’Neal, Chris Bosh, etc.
by dyshooter182 on Nov 14, 2008 11:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
In this case, Kobe Bryant is a perfect example.
Bryant is definitely a very talented guy, but his inherent abilities are nowhere near that of Vince Carter; however, Bryant is a premier performer and widely considered to be the best player of his generation, while Carter has been labeled an epic failure for not living up to those lofty expectations placed upon him.
During the summer of 1999, I bet that most hardcore analysts — as well as casual observers — would’ve put their money on Carter over Bryant when it came to predicting who’d have the most successful career; yet, due to the huge discrepancy between them with regards to work ethic and overall desire, Bryant was ultimately able to outperform Carter on an annual basis.
Indeed, it usually takes a few seasons before being able to fully assess a given player.
by AK1984 on Nov 15, 2008 3:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair criticism; a bit of hyperbole -- but the guy's job is to be provocative.
………………………….. No one can tell anything about a guy’s future in 16 minutes of play. His premise that one can is false.
"Sergio is clearly the MJ of 3rd string point guards!" —Mortimer Pritchard
by timbo on Nov 15, 2008 12:39 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
That, unlike the stuff which irked most folks, is exactly what annoyed me about Colin Cowherd's rant.
While it’s early enough to make certain evaluations regarding Greg Oden, nobody can correctly state that he has a 0% chance of ever becoming a superstar and, more importantly, a franchise cornerstone for the Portland Trail Blazers.
At the same time, though, Oden certainly isn’t on the level of Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar — who’s one of the rarest basketball players in history, with only big-time bust Ralph Sampson matching his innate level talent — Hakeem Olajuwon, or Shaquille O’Neal.
I’m standing by my comparison of Oden to Patrick Ewing, as their college careers — even though Oden’s tenure at Ohio State lasted only one season, while Ewing stayed at Georgetown all the way through his senior year — were both statistically and stylistically similar in numerous ways.
Once Oden increases his skills in the paint by adding a few new moves to his repertoire on offense, he’ll become a force to be reckoned with on a nightly basis. Sure, Oden probably won’t reach the pinnacle set forth by all-time great pivotmen — such as the four aforementioned legends — nonetheless, he’ll still be a mighty fine player in his own right.
by AK1984 on Nov 15, 2008 3:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oden = Ewing is not a bad call...
"Sergio is clearly the MJ of 3rd string point guards!" —Mortimer Pritchard
by timbo on Nov 15, 2008 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they have one more thing in common
striking resemblance to a sasquatch.
"Great Oden's raven!" - Ron Burgandy
by danevan on Nov 15, 2008 2:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me
Speaking as someone who saw a lot of Ewing, I can tell you that if Oden’s career arc roughly parallels that of Ewing’s, Blazer fans will be very, very happy.
No, Patrick never approached the level of Russell, Wilt, Kareem or Shaq. Nonetheless, Ewing’s place among the pantheon of great NBA centers would be much higher if he didn’t have the misfortune of playing at the same time as Jordan. But for that fact, he undoubtedly would’ve gotten one ring, if not two.
by knickfan on Nov 15, 2008 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I find it a reach
to even make comparisons to other players, because the styles will never template over another players attributes and match up completely ……Ewing had more offensive skills than I think Oden will have….Russell had more defensive skills and an uncanny, team oriented, BBIQ…..Wilt was the first athletic giant in the NBA and took advantage of those times……Oden could be compared to Shaq of today, at best. ….. But until this guy can become an asset to his team, and not a liability, he will never prove he belongs in the first second, or third levels of NBA centers….(and bear in mind, these notable centers, we are comparing to, had the full compliment of college ball, before they entered the NBA…..the value of this, cannot be underestimated for the fundamental foundation college provides [especially for big men])……Where do we put big men like Moses Malone and J. O’Neil ?( no college)…….I put them as good but not great ….and not the so called franchise players….so maybe a more viable comparison to someone like Oden…..
The guy is a lumbering big man…and he is Greg Oden…a kids mind, in a mature body….If you continue to see what you get, then Oden will never be a star….(this is primarily related to his physicality, which is what is hindering him a great deal at the moment)
But he could easily become an asset to his team, if he refines the things that are in his reach, for the moment…….. that is, learn to play off of your teammates and become someone that they can play off of….I guess you could say , his mind needs to catch up to his body
this could include ; be a defensive anchor that can plug up the middle; defensive rebounding in the paint (he could almost block out 2 men); being a presence on offense, that if nothing else, will keep the defense honest (as you become an option on offense and maybe have to be double teamed); develop the mindset, that you have the body that can intimidate, and do not back off……In other words, you can own the paint……
But doing these thing well, also means having the physical attributes to make these tasks easier…..Right now, Oden does not have this…..will he ..? I don’t know yet…..But this is why people have questions about Oden …..this slow. lumbering big man….Is this what he really is?….if so, then he will get picked apart by the Colin Cowherds, national media, and eventually by some Blazer fans……..when he starts to fall short of expectations and thus never lives up to the status of a # 1 pick……(I’m not saying he won’t or even needs to, with this team)….and I still choose to ride the fence and hope for the best…..but the burden of prove comes with the territory, so fans should not get too upset with people pointing out what they see on the floor…..it is what you see and nothing more to it….it could easily turn out to be the wrong assumption and still has very little history to back it up…that’s the problem with analyzing his play today …there is so very little history to Greg Oden’s basketball career
by 67 on Nov 16, 2008 10:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Patrick Ewing ...
didn’t have a complete offensive game when he entered the NBA.
http://www.hoyabasketball.com/features/top50_1.htm
With Greg Oden, my hope is that his career arc will mirror that of Ewing.
by AK1984 on Nov 17, 2008 6:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's an amazing article on Patrick Ewing.
http://www.slate.com/id/2071141/
It’s interesting stuff that sheds light on Ewing’s career.
by AK1984 on Nov 17, 2008 6:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
however it's the right conclusion
at this point….or until proven otherwise…Is it fair, in the sense that it lacks history? …no….unless you include his college play…then one could draw a more historical conclusion….But it’s NBA vs college as well
the points Cowherd makes should be well taken…because they (for the moment, are accurate)
I would take noted comment, from simple observation (even in the short term) on someone that had a basketball background, either by playing organized ball, coaching, scouting, etc, ….and in some cases media people who have been involved with the sport enough to qualify their statements
Cowherd is a sports media person with the flare that attracts controversy…this generates audiences and puts up a marquee that many can’t resist….this is exactly what organizations like ESPN thrive on
They want these kind of reactions , because the media host’s jobs depend on it…Even if they are wrong sometimes (which they are) they generally strike the right cords and have the means to present the issue they are trying to make….sometimes it is just done to get a story that stirs things up or raise questions or doubt….
The problem is, people may tend to take it too personal because it sounds like a smart ass that is merely using a national media platform to sound off…..but they want it to be personal…if it isn’t, it reaches out to no one and nobody tunes in….
It becomes Cowherd vs Blazer fans….with the rest of the world watching ….Many do not like his style, but he does his job and I think he does it quite well ….
He is making a statement on short term observations, but so are the people that make a contrary statement that Oden will be great…every thing is yet to proven, but Cowherd actually has the better evidence that he is more accurate…Plus, he is not saying Oden is a dud..he’s just saying he doesn’t feel he will live up to the status of a # 1 pick, franchise type player, if you include offense as a deciding factor…..
by 67 on Nov 15, 2008 10:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Take a look at this sentence
" He is making a statement on short term observations, but so are the people that make a contrary statement that Oden will be great…[snip]…..Plus, he is not saying Oden is a dud..he’s just saying he doesn’t feel he will live up to the status of a # 1 pick, franchise type player, if you include offense as a deciding factor….."
Then listen to Cowherd….yes this is context of the message but the thing that pissed me off was not the message itself but the way he stated it. The utter lack of reasonable dialog …..the condecending manner of the message….the absolute inablility of him to acknowledge the incredibly small sample size of his observations. Additionally, he does something that I really truely hate in these media blowholes, he calls out the fans of a specific team (us in this case) for liking the team or a player on the team (for having the audacity of actually thinking that the player picked #1 overall will be a great player!!! What stupid stupid fans we are). So in that …I do not agree with you on the following : “Many do not like his style, but he does his job and I think he does it quite well ….”.
You post well and have well thought out ideas…or to restate it : I like your style and I think you do what you do well….but not Cowherd….he is a hyperbolic buffoon who is insulting our intelligence (with predicable results)
"Fez, the foundation of any good relationship is three little words: I-don't-know.
What're you doing? I don't know.
What're you thinking about? I don't know.
Who's that under you? I don't know. "
-Michael Kelso
by 92wastheyear on Nov 15, 2008 10:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OK
I respect your opinion of him….you are not alone…probably a vast majority don’t care for his abrasive style…the comments were presumptuous and brash…but it still is character acting, of sorts, in his role as a sports analyst……. a signature if you will, of Colin Cowherd, with design to help sell his show……..(and probably the reason ESPN has employed him)………The realization that many innocent people are in it’s path occurs to them, but does not apply when your selling sports stories…..
Cowherd’s show about Oden, is insulting to many Blazer fans…mostly because of the way it was presented, like you said.
by 67 on Nov 15, 2008 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And that post is why I like your style
I am done here….take care, my friend
"Fez, the foundation of any good relationship is three little words: I-don't-know.
What're you doing? I don't know.
What're you thinking about? I don't know.
Who's that under you? I don't know. "
-Michael Kelso
by 92wastheyear on Nov 15, 2008 8:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cowherd's proclamation that you can't hide things in basketball was annoying
The truth is that you can, in fact, hide things in basketball. I would argue that you can hide a lot more things in basketball than you can in baseball, where players have to hit the ball without any help from their teammates. In basketball, you can hide a weak man-to-man defender by asking them to guard less dangerous offensive players or by using a zone defense, you can hide a poor ball-handler by having them play off the ball, and you can hide someone who does not have a decent jump shot by having them play in the post. There are lots of ways to hide things in basketball, which is one of the reasons why the draft is such a crapshoot. If you watch a player enough you can generally find out what their strengths and weaknesses are, but usually it takes dozens of games to make a thorough scouting report. Trying to figure out how good a player is (or worse yet, how good a player is going to be) after just one game is foolish.
by trk on Nov 15, 2008 2:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wow
his douche-baggery is phenomenal. I doubt it takes Greg even the rest of the season to prove him wrong though.
"Great Oden's raven!" - Ron Burgandy
by danevan on Nov 15, 2008 2:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone remember anyone saying Greg would be a premier offensive player?
Cause I sure don’t… He will be decent on offense because of his size.
Premier DEFENSIVE player was why we drafted him. Defense, Colin, defense.
Yes, Herd is definitely a douche.
by koyote on Nov 15, 2008 8:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
ugh i hate him
he stereotypes everyone in his “top notch” analogies… “ur mom wears a name tag so you’re not going to turn out to be anything…” how does he get away with these things?
by Blazerland on Nov 15, 2008 11:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was going to start this thread when I saw that video but he's not worth it. Guy is a loser who
gets paid to be wrong about everything.
by BRoyInThe4th on Nov 16, 2008 12:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else think it is appropriate
that this guy is so clueless that he never uses the correct comparison? Go back to that draft in your mind, there is the ESPN panel talking about Greg and the type of difference maker he could be. Were they comparing him to Shaq?…..No. Were they comparing him to Kareem?….No. Were they comparing him to Wilt?…No. Who the heck was it they were comparing him to? Oh, now I remember…..it was Bill Russell. And what kind of player was Bill Russell? Well he was a player who averaged 15 points a game for his career, and his highest season average was just UNDER 19 per game. He was also a player who averaged 22 rebounds a game and anchored a defense that won ELEVEN CHAMPIONSHIPS.
I would simply like to know why this comparison was never made by Colin. I mean, we as Blazer fans were told that this is the kind of player Greg could become. Nobody ever tried to sell us a bill of goods on Greg becoming a 30 point a game scorer, and I don’t think Blazer fans have ever expected Greg to become the team’s leading scorer. For Colin to call us “delusional” for believing that Greg can become the player we all thought he would become on draft night is not only stupid, but it is ill informed.
I would like to think that we as Blazer nation are smart enough to see for ourselves what a player might become. I have watched Greg since he was in high school and always thought he would be a dominant defensive force. I would hope that this is the outcome we are all hoping for, and if it is then we are not delusional, we are simply hopeful and realistic. Colin on the other hand is stupid, and should really learn to make ligitimate player comparisons before ripping a player and an entire fan base.
by SalemORguy on Nov 16, 2008 9:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
this is a great comparison
cowherd u can tell is just an a-hole in general. Everything it says should be taken with a spoonful of salt. i’d love to hear him after the last 2 games. he really just sucks as an analyst, and honestly i cant wait until april and we can look at this post and just smile, cause we knew he was wrong all along.
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by lanepete on Nov 16, 2008 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the extra scrutiny greg is under...
comes from sam bowie
"im a buffet of goodness"-Channing Frye
by burritoman on Nov 16, 2008 1:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Colin (Stephen A. Smith) Cowherd
It will be great to dig up this footage and throw it back in Cowherds face once its realized nobody in the league can stop GO.
I still remember the night Rod Strickland arrived at the airport for his second tenure as a Blazer, he had his camera guy wait way down the hallway as Cowherd approached Strickland and asked if he wanted to talk. Strickland said sure, and instantly Cowherd motioned for his camera crew to ambush Strickland with studio lights and questioning.
I’m glad he’s away from the Portland sports scene, but geez now he is ripping the Blazers nationally.
by BRye on Nov 17, 2008 6:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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