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Forgive me Ann! Forgive me Outlaw!

I just wanted to write a short post begging for forgiveness. I have been in the trade Outlaw camp for so long I forgot what it was like to not have that kind of thinking. However, I want to say it loud and say it proud. Outlaw, you are really upping your game! The number one thing I like about Outlaw this year is not his TORRID outside shooting, but rather his renewed (new?) commitment to defense and rebounding. To be honest if he keeps up that outside shooting he is worth keeping around regardless of anything else he brings to the table (See Korver, Kyle).

On the other hand, I must admit I often notice Outlaw looking confused on Offensive sets and occasionally on defense His decision making and BBIQ need work and he can still improve on rebounding and especially defense. You know what though? He has shown that he is willing to work on all aspects of his game and for that he deserves some props. Way to go Outlaw you've put your feet on the path to becoming an all around excellent baller. You've got the tools, you've shown the willingness, now just keep it up. I once was a doubter, but you're bringing me around. Way to go Steelhead, way to go!


P.S. We will just have to figure out how to have a 3 sf rotation when Marty gets back as Batum has shown he has a gift for defense that can't be ignored. My lord so much talent! If only our PG's were causing us the talent/minutes problem our SF's are causing this year!

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Good post.

He’s still capable of making me cringe on defense and at some of the shots he chooses to take (or not take… what was with him NOT taking wide open 3’s last night, especially considering how hot he’s been from there so far this year?), but I’ve been feeling more confident in him as well.

"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 11, 2008 2:53 PM PST reply actions  

Why doest thou ask Ann and Outlaw for forgiveness?

Thine betrayals against our beloved Blazers can only be forgiven if thou wouldst confess them to sir Pritchard.

I've got a plan......we lob up a bad shot that Dwight can block, but we do it in such a way that it hits either Rashard or Hedo in the head knocking them out for the game.
--Magnum

by prezofdeath on Nov 11, 2008 3:00 PM PST reply actions  

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***KP can not forgive all sins, only ones of doubt in the PTB. For complete sin removal, take a self-examination and seek a Physician.

I've got a plan......we lob up a bad shot that Dwight can block, but we do it in such a way that it hits either Rashard or Hedo in the head knocking them out for the game.
--Magnum

by prezofdeath on Nov 11, 2008 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Some Hot Shooting

Outlaw is shooting 65% from 3 point line. That is some spicy shooting. He won’t be able to keep that up, but if he shoots around 40% like last year, it is invaluable to the team.

I think its clear that Outlaw isn’t starting material. His success comes from playing against the other team’s bench or the PF position. His defense is still bad and his shot selection cringe worthy. I rather have him be a catch and shoot player than a primary playmaker. I applaud him for going after rebounds.

I am still in the trade camp, not just for the sake of a trade, but to improve the starting SF or PG position.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Nov 11, 2008 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

I have moved into the dont trade any one camp

And I cant tell you how pleased I have been with the upgrade in Travis’s hustle

by southern oregon on Nov 11, 2008 3:33 PM PST reply actions  

I am in the don't trade anyone unless it involves a major P-Slap camp

unfortunately I still have yet to read a single trade suggestion that fits that description.

I expect it would have to be something nobody would believe is possible – like CP3.

See, I told you nobody would believe it was possible – not even me.

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by LaMarvelous on Nov 11, 2008 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm cool with Travis now

I think we know that the Travis as a starter experiment is convincingly over. But he’s got worth as a scorer off the bench.

I like the fact that, if the Blazers can’t get something going, they just throw it to him and he takes a couple dribbles and pulls up and drills it.

But I hate the fact that sometimes when they can’t get something going they just throw it to him and he takes a couple dribbles and pulls up and clanks it.

It’s a love/hate relationship. Okay, not hate. Maybe a love/less love relationship.

"I believe in [Joel]. I just love the way he plays." - Nate McMillan

by jamon51 on Nov 11, 2008 4:31 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Well put.

"I’m glad Sergio played well in pre-season, but he should be getting killed for whining. He ain’t that important to the country of Spain, let alone the Trail Blazers." --Mortimer Pritchard

by timbo on Nov 11, 2008 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I forgive you

even if your Outlaw was not meant as me. :)

"if i started a beer company and sold one beer for every time he(timbo) replied to himself, i'd be a millionaire, check that, a billionaire". - prezofdeath

"14 points, 13 rebounds, 2 blocks, no turnovers. Standing ovation for Travis tonight." - Dave

by Outlaw is Rejector on Nov 11, 2008 4:49 PM PST reply actions  

The Magic announcers last night

that they had no idea why Batum was starting, that Outlaw was a complementary player who fits in the first unit better.

The outside perspective on him is that he is a great talent.

Giving [Batum] the freedom to go for steals is going to be like giving a redneck six boxes of ammo and a quarter mile of empty Bud cans. - Dave

by Cablinasian on Nov 11, 2008 6:23 PM PST reply actions  

Go TO!

He is more in the game lately.

by Blazin' on Nov 11, 2008 6:39 PM PST reply actions  

I think that several of our players will show the kind of improvement we are seeing from Trout

We just need to give them time to settle into the roles that they are given, and start working together as a TEAM. Once everyone know exactly what to expect from each other, they will get “in the zone” like they were during “The Streak” last year. Then we will see some of the most amazing basketball that we have ever seen. I genuinely believe that!

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by LaMarvelous on Nov 11, 2008 8:20 PM PST reply actions  

I doubt that you genuinely believe that

You have simply talked yourself into believing it. That is not “genuine” belief.

We cannot put up with this flagrant lack of accountability anymore.

by MT Suit on Nov 11, 2008 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

my goodness

I wouldn’t say I was trade outlaw crazy the past few weeks but even if I was I wouldn’t switch camps as fast as it looks like a lot of you are. I actually tried to defend some of the people who made logical arguments when they complained about Travis, little did I know that many people are now abandoning those statements because (as expected) Travis’ shooting has improved. His style hasn’t changed, his “fit” for this team hasn’t changed, its just that some of those ridiculously difficult jumpshots a lot of people complain about are starting to go down. Travis showed what he can do (rebounding) when he wants to but I don’t see his game changing too much (I would love it, but I don’t honestly believe he will continue to shoot 3’s at this insane rate). what you see is pretty much what you’re gonna get and apparently the only things thats gonna change around here are the “trade outlaw” posts.

Afew years ago, a broadcaster once said Pryzbilla's name is "Polish for 'personal foul.'" Ouch.

by chrischa on Nov 11, 2008 9:03 PM PST reply actions  

some kinda "honk"

Gee, you see the light. Wow. That is great. Then you have to bring up the Basketball IQ non-issue. Thats just a knife in the back. Some labels are hard to peel off, like McCain/Palin bumpersticker some jerk slapped on my bumper.

Travis is not just a good player, he has a desire to better understand the game and does so by listening to the coaches and trying to impliment what they want him to do into what he does naturally on the court. This kid is a talented individual who leaped from High School to the pro’s on sheer athletic ability, promise and potential. He completely lacked fundamental skills and has given 100% effort to attaining an essential understanding of the way the game is played at this level. That does NOT mean his Hoops IQ is 2 or more standard deviations below the rest of the league. Its callous and unfair to continue to perpetuate this myth. No thanks to John Canzano, who during pre-season brought Travis on his radio show and treated him like a first grader in the leg-up program. Soon thereafter Wheels brought in Travis and treated him with respect and kindness and the interview was a smashing success.

I find it baffling how this perception continues, its as if nobody has noticed the improvement Travis has made in his game every single season, and equally as perplexed at those who think his learning curve has peaked and flattened.

Give the guy a break and pull out that serrated Ginsu thats stuck in his back without twisting it. Travis is a great guy, a wonderful human being, a smart, kind, sensitive, considerate winner whose been unfairly categorized.

Pfew… that felt good.

by bow4meow on Nov 12, 2008 8:06 AM PST reply actions  

did we not preach patience?

I may still want to trade travis, but I’m waiting until the all star game to decide.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Nov 12, 2008 2:13 PM PST reply actions  

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