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by Ben Golliver on Nov 11, 2008 12:02 PM PST
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PrintUPDATE (12.51PM): According to the Blazers, Brandon and Greg are both listed as questionable for the Heat game.
UPDATE (2.19PM):
According to Mike Barrett, "The Trail Blazers are officially listing Brandon Roy and Greg Oden as "questionable" for Wednesday night's game against the Heat in Miami. But, following practice on Tuesday afternoon, the feeling is that they'll both probably play."
According to Quick, Greg is "likely" to play and Brandon is "hopeful" and Quick "guesses" he will start.
So, we've got "questionable," "probably," "likely," "hopeful" and "guess" on the table for these two. I am almost certain one of those words will prove to have been correct.
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A reminder: there are back to back Blazers movies playing tonight at the NW Film Fest. Here's their website for more information. First movie, Mania, starts at 6:30. Second movie, Fast Break, starts at 9. I will see you there.
Next, give a read to Mike Barrett's blog. He's got postgame audio up on the site already and he writes...
Greg Oden practiced with the team on Sunday night, and ran better than expected. In fact, it's even the hope of the coaches that he'll be able to go through Tuesday's practice, and perhaps be ready to return to the lineup on Wednesday.
Slow that bullet train down. Just my two cents. Maybe you feel differently?
Casey has a ton of quotes as well.
Brother Wendell with quotes from both sides of the Channing Frye negotations.
Are y'all familiar with the Basketball Jones podcast -- produced by Skeets from Yahoo! and company? Well, in last week's edition, Skeets calls Blazers fans the best fans in the NBA and shouts out Blazers Edge and the Oregonlive Blazers Blog. Which was cool! Check it out.
In case you missed it this weekend, Hendrickson got some good quotes from Blake about Brandon's miracle shot against Houston.
The Spaniards are coming! Check out TuBasket.com. They've been following the Sergio trials carefully.
Did you see Hoopsworld's power rankings? Eric writes, "Brandon Roy is a bad, bad man." We're up to #14 and that was before the Orlando win.
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
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About Greg
I favor taking it slow, of course, but if the coaches and Jay Jensen say he’s good to go, then you’ve gotta take them for their word.
Besides, isn’t Miami the perfect team for him to come back against? Who’s going to check him? Mark Blount?
Also regarding Greg ...
I don’t think his situation is any different than Brandon’s. If either one can play, then they should. If Jay Jensen recommends that either one sit out the Miami game, then they should sit. It’s just not that big of a deal. This is professional sports, and injuries happen all of the time. Ellis is out, Ginobili’s out, Parker’s out, Williams has been out … the list goes on.
If I had to guess right now, I would expect Greg and Brandon to both be in the starting lineup tomorrow …
Phil
Agreeeeeed!
I think there’s a tendency from everyone to overthink the situation. Jay, Nate, et al have a much better perspective on Greg/BRoy than we do. Period.
Rudy is No. 1 again
On ESPN.com’s David Thorpe Top 50 Rookie Rankings.
"I'd hate to be you if I were me." - Eddie (Barfly)
UPDATE (12.51PM): According to the Blazers, Brandon and Greg are both listed as questionable for the Heat game.
honor terry porter
Word.
Ben, your work is greatly appreciated, as always.
If Roy is hurt and can't play, Bayless will get plenty of minutes..
But, best of luck to Roy healing and Oden too. I’ve had back spasms before and its always worse the morning after the injury.
Early December return to practice
I think that’s the latest
December 4th is what Casey said.
Giving [Batum] the freedom to go for steals is going to be like giving a redneck six boxes of ammo and a quarter mile of empty Bud cans. - Dave
Starting Center
Please, please, puhleeze don’t start Greg when he’s ready to play. Joel is and should be the starting center as Greg gradually (and I mean very gradually) comes off the bench for limited minutes. It will help keep the good chemistry going, allow Greg to learn without as much pressure, and, at the same time, force him to adapt to this team’s ball-movement style of offense.
The team is too important to experiment with by just throwing Oden in and expecting things to work well.
If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.
by CosmoPlavix on Nov 11, 2008 1:09 PM PST reply actions
I completely disagree
When Greg is able to play, he should play, and he should play WITH LaMarcus, Brandon, Steve and Nicolas. Greg and LaMarcus need to learn how to play TOGETHER on the block. Brandon needs to learn how to run the pick and roll WITH Greg. Steve needs to learn how to make the entry pass TO Greg in the post.
This year is all about learning how all of the pieces fit together. It’s going to take a while before the Blazers look like they’re firing on all cylinders, but you only get to that point by playing in games together.
Phil
Grit your teeth
when GO comes out on the floor. Let’s hope and pray that his body holds up and he sooner than later is able to get himself into game shape. We need to exorcise that dreaded curse at that 5 position.
Greg's foot injury had nothing to do with HIS body ...
Stepping on someone else’s foot will result in an injury to 100% of NBA players. Take a look at all of the players out with ankle or foot injuries right now. It happens. It’s Basketball. It’s NOT anything specifically about Greg.
Does Kirk Hinrich have a bad thumb ?
Does K*be have a weak pinkie ?
Minor injuries happen. it’s Basketball …
Phil
by Philski on Nov 11, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
read a few posts down
It looks like Greg will play on Wednesday and he will come off the bench. No news on how many minutes he will play. But the good news is that he has lost about 8 pounds since the season opener, and looks to be in great shape, (Both MB, his teammates, and David Thorpe have said so after watching him this week).
No comment on the "Weak Pinkie" ?
I was actually trolling for a rec with that comment …
Oden's tonsils are made of glass.
Totally injury prone.
I want to put points on your face.-Rudy Fernandez
I wouldn't say "nothing"... actually, when you look at the replays
they demonstrate that he landed on his foot without contact from anybody else… his body had something to do with it, the degree of how much is debatable
by hotstuffdb22 on Nov 11, 2008 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, cool info from David Thorpe.
Who was very negative after Oden’s performance on opening night.
Thorpe loves Oden’s conditioning, says he is “fantastic.” From a media member previously negative toward Greg, this is a very good sign.
Giving [Batum] the freedom to go for steals is going to be like giving a redneck six boxes of ammo and a quarter mile of empty Bud cans. - Dave
Great link!
I was also happy to see that Batum (along with Greg) was listed under the promising rookies
That's hysterical
About two weeks ago Thorpe said he thought Oden should drop 50+ pounds before he stepped on a court again.
Oden likely to play on Wednesday
according to Jason quick at oregonlive.com
Brandon less likely to play than Oden.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2008/11/oden_likely_to_play_wednesday.html
(I was just reading it too)
New MB post
Says Oden has lost 8 pounds since the season opener, and he basically says Oden will play on wednesday, but he will come off the bench.
oops
I didn’t mean to hit the POST button.
Hopefully this is true, (about the weight loss) because that would put his listed weight around 277, which is almost perfect, (I think 275 is the best weight for him, strong but lean and quick). Hopefully as he plays he will lose a few more and get into great bball shape.
He Seriously needs to Trim His beard
He does not look 50 years old when he has a trimmed beard.
"All our holes," says shooting guard Brandon Roy, a surprise All-Star last year in his second season, "are holes that Greg is going to plug."
He also drives a black Lincoln.
I’ve seen it.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 11, 2008 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Is it a hot rod lincoln?
My pappy said, “Son, you’re gonna’ drive me to drinkin’
If you don’t stop drivin’ that Hot Rod Lincoln”
YIPPEE!!!
BRoy AND Oden!
As Wheeler would say… OOOOOOOHHH BABY!!!!!!!!!
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 11, 2008 2:28 PM PST reply actions
Anyone else kinda wish that...
Oden playing was a surprise?
At this point, I also kinda prefer not to here glowing reports of how he looks in practice. I want him to surprise everyone.
by PoliSam on Nov 11, 2008 2:43 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Dont you guys think its amazing
How easily tall people’s weight can fluctuate. 4 lbs in 1 week? thats 4 times of what doctors say is healthy weight loss.
"All our holes," says shooting guard Brandon Roy, a surprise All-Star last year in his second season, "are holes that Greg is going to plug."
oden is 7 foot
but if u are talking about me then i think there is a misconception. im pretty skinny. I think i once posted here that i am 600 lbs
"All our holes," says shooting guard Brandon Roy, a surprise All-Star last year in his second season, "are holes that Greg is going to plug."
Ha, I think Norsktroll was saying that his weight loss
was more a factor of his weight, not his height. I don’t think he was referencing you.
Giving [Batum] the freedom to go for steals is going to be like giving a redneck six boxes of ammo and a quarter mile of empty Bud cans. - Dave
He's young, and an athlete
Working out hard for a young athlete can have a big impact very quickly. It’s not just that he’s tall. He’s healthy and fit.
If he is a healthy professional athlete in reasonable condition, and has been limited in running for a week or two, then is able to start running again, the weight will come off, and no doctor would worry about four pounds in a week. That would be true if he were only six feet tall. These guys are in a different world than general doctor advice.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
Perfect game for Oden to return
I think this is the perfect game to get Oden out there and log some minutes. My main reasoning is that Miami has nobody on their roster that is taller than 6’9!!! If Oden isn’t able to dominate against that, then he has a longer ways to go than we all thought. Plus if he is able to dominate (which he should) he will be doing it on ESPN for the entire country to see and maybe some of these Oden doubters will SHUT THEIR TRAPS!
Go Blazers…
ALL DAY EVERY DAY...
TuBasket
My Spanish is pretty rusty, but I got the gist of the story of last night’s game. I think that “triples” is a much better designation than “three-pointer” . Of course it is pronounced “tree-plays” , but it still is easier to say than “three pointer”. I’d like to see either pronunciation come into common useage (in English; obviously it already is in Spanish)
When I was looking at the site the top advertisement was for basketball books by a particular author and one of them was “Drazen Petrovic” – eerie coincidence.
triples is awesome! should we start using that here on BE? i think so.
honor terry porter
by Ben Golliver on Nov 11, 2008 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
I think so...
triples are the new three pointer.
Giving [Batum] the freedom to go for steals is going to be like giving a redneck six boxes of ammo and a quarter mile of empty Bud cans. - Dave
Bobby Gross? Bobby Gross?
Let’s just retire every number of every Blazer player past and present.
"I’m glad Sergio played well in pre-season, but he should be getting killed for whining. He ain’t that important to the country of Spain, let alone the Trail Blazers." --Mortimer Pritchard
I doubt his jersey would be retired if it weren't for Porter wearing the same number.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Nov 11, 2008 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
Bobby Gross? Bobby Gross?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5P1XBq6_tc&feature=related
"All our holes," says shooting guard Brandon Roy, a surprise All-Star last year in his second season, "are holes that Greg is going to plug."
22baylor
Gross’s game was superb.
He was perfect for the championship team. He was a great defender, good outside shooter, good defender, kept the ball moving. He was the perfect small forward to go along with Walton.
When Walton left he soldiered on through injuries and mediocre Blazer rosters. I have absolutely no problem with retiring his number. Especially since the guys from the championship team who have not had their number retired yet are definitely in the minority. – Elgin.
All the kids who played the blues would learn my licks with a bottleneck slide. - Richard Palmer-James
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