Blazers 100 Spurs 99 Game Report
It didn't feel like the Blazers would lose this one all night. Until there was about 3 seconds left in the fourth quarter, Travis Outlaw had just missed a shot attempt and the ball was pushed up the floor frantically with Michael Finley lining up a baseline jumper as time was about to expire. Up until that point, though, there had been a sense of certainty in the Rose Garden, initiated by a rabid fan base and developed by confident, smooth play from the Blazers. It almost went out the window.
It was a ridiculous night. Earth, Wind and Fire performed pregame (although Captain Planet was nowhere to be found), Brandon and LaMarcus performed middlegame and Michael Finley thankfully didn't perform in the endgame (missed jumper); the Blazers escaped with a 100 to 99 victory at home.
But let's start at the start....
Led by Bayless and Batum, the team came charging out of the locker room to LaMarcus' song selection, Swagga Like Us by TI, which apparently is just a looped sample of a clip from an MIA song from like a year ago. Derivative music for the loss. On a better note, the team had edited together a new pregame video, with tons of footage from the home romp over Sacramento in the preseason, Rudy's lefty layup, Rudy's through the leg pass, Oden dunking. It was inspirational. I was inspired.
Larry Miller had a courtside dap for Brandon during the layup line and then took the court to say, "All this red looks great in here tonight." He might have just been referring to his own tie. The Redout didn't seem to be an overwhelming success although there were some fans who got the memo.
RED OUT!!!!!!! Sort of. Larry Miller was leading by example.
Miller then had the line of the night, "I want to introduce the elements of the universe: Earth, Wind and Fire" and the team made a big production of having the players enter the court from various 100 level entrances, high-fiving fans as they ran down the stairs, as a band that was last relevant about 30 years ago played air-guitar or something and cheerleaders clapped crazily. I don't think there was any MDMA in my Red Bull but at that moment I couldn't have been sure. Nic Batum was flying down the stairs; I was really glad that he didn't wipeout. Meanwhile, Tim Duncan was not impresssed, practicing phantom jump hooks as this production was going on around him in every direction. Focus. It's important.
After player introductions (Joel got a lot of cheers, Brandon brought the house down), LaMarcus came out to say, "Thanks for your support. I'm looking forward to a great season." Good for you, LMA. We are too. Excellent speech.
As for the game itself, the biggest takeaway for me was how the Spurs handled Brandon defensively down the stretch. After B Roy was killing them time and again on jumpers (10 for 18 overall) from his favorite spots on the court -- just left and just right of the free throw line -- Coach Pop elected to run a second defender at Brandon, forcing the ball out of his hands. I talked to Brandon about this after the game and he noted that it wasn't the first time that he's seen this (a few teams played Brandon like that last year), but that "for the Spurs to do it says a lot." He seems to expect to see a second defender running at him a lot in the future. And with good reason: the book is out on Brandon. You can't let him go one and one down the stretch, he's just too consistently good.
Brandon noted that the Spurs sent the double team from different players -- Joel's man on one late possession -- which made reading the Spurs' defense more difficult than it generally would be against most teams. The respect Brandon has for the Spurs scheme was clear, "You don't know where the double is coming from so I had to take it as it comes." Forcing decisions on the fly and under pressure is one hallmark of a solid defensive team. Asked if he was looking for LaMarcus first in those situations, Brandon said he simply didn't have that luxury given where the double teams were coming from. This led to the ball ending up in Travis's hands on the team's final offensive possession. Travis, as mentioned above, was unable to convert, leading to a breakout that nearly cost the Blazers this game.
LaMarcus, for his part, seemed very happy with his performance: 23 points and 5 rebounds (not quite matching Duncan's 27 and 10) but doing enough, including knocking down a big 3 and a bigger jumper from the top of the key, to get the W. I asked LaMarcus about going against Duncan and Kurt Thomas. He said his approach was similar against both players because they are both strong and very long: be aggressive, take it right at them and look for high percentage shots. Aldridge broke out the full arsenal of fadeaways, hooks and jumpers and finished 10 for 22. He was the focal point of many, many possessions as the team looked to get him going throughout the game. This was exactly what many of us had hoped for -- it was pleasant to see how it played out.
If one player stole the show tonight, however, it was none other than Blazers Edge favorite Nicolas Batum. Go ahead and induct him into the Hall of Fame right now. Book it.
French Connection
Batum was literally all over the place on offense and defense. He smoothly came off picks, cutting hard through the lane with his hands up. He knocked down open shots (5 of 9 overall), He had two blocks and a steal on defense and, in one memorable stretch, was matched up on defense with Tony Parker. One might argue he did the best job of any Blazer of guarding Parker, who was having his way with both Steve Blake and Sergio Rodriguez. Shades of Scottie Pippen from Batum on the defensive end.
Speaking of Sergio, it is more apparent with each game why he is so frustrated with his role. He played just 9 minutes and for each and every one of those 9 minutes Nate was hovering right over his shoulder, waiting for a turnover (Sergio only had 1), a missed shot (Sergio was 1 for 3) or a poor defensive play (he got his ankles broken hard by Parker on one drive). Shortly after one of these transgressions, invariably, there would be the reflexive hook from Coach McMillan and Sergio would head back to the bench. There is no trust there whatsoever.
In fairness to Sergio, although he was dominated by Tony Parker (24 and 11), Steve Blake was dominated even worse. I thought Steve looked worse tonight, particularly on the defensive end, than I can remember. He was beaten so easily to the basket on numerous occasions for gimme layups. Parker -- extremely quick, great body control, solid shooting (he can make uncontested layups) -- is one of the worst matchups in the NBA for Blake. It showed tonight. Blake was, it should be noted, an efficient but forgettable 3 of 5 on the offensive end.
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This is getting long, so I'll throw this to some Random Game Notes bullet format:
- On the scoreboard, the team was asked about its favorite scary movies... Joel: Blair Witch Project... Marty: Childs Play.. Sergio: The Ring... Frye: Scary Movie... Brandon: Halloween...
- The team was also asked, what were their best Halloween costumes?... Bayless was a ninja (of course he was!)... Marty and Greg were both the green power ranger... Brandon was a Ninja Turtle... Channing was Gumby, Coach Lucas was Darth Vader.
- There were VERY loud Rudy! Rudy! Rudy! chants all night.
- Wells Fargo sponsors an in-game thingy where prizes are dropped from the rafters by mini-parachute while the Free Fallin' song plays. Not the best song choice in this economy, is it?
- The Blazer Dancers were rocking some certifiably creepy torn black fishnets at one point. Not a great look.
- Right before halftime, Brandon hit a 3 and Nic Batum came running from 30 feet away to deliver a huge chest bump. Fun times.
- Which was your favorite line from the sideline reporter? Option 1: "Off the court [Bruce Bowen] is a very smart basketball player" or Option 2: "Greg Oden's injury is not impacting the team."
- Asked for comment regarding his emotional performance on yesterday's chat, Jason Quick assured his fans that "I'm good."
- There was a grown man dressed in a baby costume (read: diaper) with a sign that said, "Where do babies come from? San Antonio." You sir, are the winner.
- After the game, I saw Mike Moser, recent UA decommit and Oregon's #1 high school basketball player, in the VIP area talking with mentor Ime Udoka.
- Channing had a huge dunk that sent himself flying into the baseline crowd. Silly Channing.
- Rudy has great situational awarness, knowing when to bring the ball back out, milk the shotclock, slow the game down, etc. He is far past a rookie's understanding of the "right thing to do."
- A few funny signs: "We're scary good" and "Rip city" with RIP written on a gravestone.
- Brandon was wearing his new shoes tonight. He says he really likes them. "They are hot. You seen the 7 on them, right?" Yes I did.
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Images...
Michael Finley's Shoes. Didn't work in the clutch.
"So, did you hear I'm worth $20 million?"
The NBA: Where razorblades happen.
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Nate's words...
Nate on the result: "I thought we did the things we talked about doing. We wanted to bring energy to the floor. We talked about outscrapping the Spurs, winning the hustle game, and tonight we did that."
Nate on the importance of the game: "Any time you beat one of the elite teams, especially San Antonio, we haven't beaten San Antonio since I've been here. It should be a confidence booster for us. They made shot after shot and our guys stayed calm. Our guys had to go down and score and make plays, and get stops, and we made just enough stops to win the game."
Nate on what his halftime message was: "We've been here before but they seem to find a way to turn it up in the second half. What we wanted to do was finish the game. We needed to finish the game with a solid third quarter and a solid fourth quarter, and we did."
Nate on Nic the Hall of Famer: "Defensively was one area we felt he was doing a good job during training camp. He got back to rebounding tonight, he knocked down his shots, he really gave us a lift. He had a block on Tim early. That really gave the team confidence and got the crowd into the game. A lot of energy and a lot of scrappy play."
Nate on the last possession: "We were giving it to Brandon and allowing Brandon to make a decision to go, or call up a pick and roll, it was his call. They went to a double team, they went to trapping Brandon off of Joel, and the next move was for our guys to go to the basket, be aggressive and attack the basket."
Nate on what he was thinking when Travis missed the final shot: "Well first I was thinking, Do they have a timeout? They had one but they didn't use it. Then, get back and play defense! [Finley] had a pretty good look. We were challenging shots all night long tonight. We had a hand up on that one. It was just off a little bit. They had a shot at it. When you work like that you make breaks for yourself. These guys responded with an unbelievable effort tonight."
Nate on the turnovers: "We did a great job of taking care of the ball. We outrebounded them. Controlled the boards. When you only have 6 turnovers against a team like that, that's pretty good."
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-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
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Great write up, Ben
I was at the game tonight with my daughter. We had a great time. After the game we drove home to Eugene and now I am
FIRST!
We cannot put up with this flagrant lack of accountability anymore.
by MT Suit on Nov 1, 2008 12:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What's up with Bayless?
Who would have thought Batum and Sergio would make the rotation before Bayless?
If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley
by Winchester on Nov 1, 2008 12:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
nate went back to what we saw in the preseason: sergio in the backup role.
there’s not a lot of minutes there and bayless has supposedly struggled with the sets. that’s not something that will help you get PT against the spurs.
honor terry porter
by Ben. on Nov 1, 2008 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
what about Sergio, Rudy, Batum, they dont even understand Nate. Like Nate would say “Dive”, or “Dig”, and would not like they got it. But then Nate told to Canzano that he job was to teach those guys what it means. Yeah they should off known better.
by RipCity on Nov 1, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Read.
Seems like McMillan is the harshest Sergio criticizer in all the land.
Batum looked great.
Roy Looked Great.
LMA looked great.
Rudy only looked good with Sergio on offense(he played decent on defense all night).
"I just know that I can't get big, I can't eat whatever I want to. I have to eat healthy, I have to stay right, I have to stay involved and ... I have to be here at practice because you know what? I can play pretty quick."
by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 1, 2008 12:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
rudy had an off night. still did a great job of doing the little things. tying up loose balls, getting on the floor.
shot wasn’t falling at all though. he had a couple of opportunities to really open this game up and set the crowd off but couldn’t deliver…next time.
honor terry porter
by Ben. on Nov 1, 2008 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rudy's shot looked rushed and he took that one extremely long three
I mean, you have to be quick, but you can still rush it if you know what I mean. Being balanced and having your feet set.
In LA he looked more relaxed. I wonder how much we can attribute his poor shooting to the constant Rudy Rudy Rudy chants. Do you think he felt more pressure from the fan base that has already annointed him? Tried to push it a little too hard shooting-wise?
I’m still thrilled with his turnovers (or lack thereof) in the first two games. Pre-season, the only thing I didn’t like was his sometimes sloppy play.
Even though he didn’t ring up the assists tonight, I remember one pass to LMA on a semi-break that wasn’t converted, but it was a pass that only one of two other guys on the team could have/would have made.
by Bust a Bucket on Nov 1, 2008 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sergio...
Rudy looks more confident with Sergio at the point.
"I just know that I can't get big, I can't eat whatever I want to. I have to eat healthy, I have to stay right, I have to stay involved and ... I have to be here at practice because you know what? I can play pretty quick."
by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 1, 2008 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rudy looks like Rudy
No matter who is out there.
Sergio needs Rudy more than Rudy needs Sergio.
Rudy can have an off game, he still does all the lil’ things to warrant having him out on the court.
Morty
by Mortimer on Nov 1, 2008 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen!
Preach it brotha
"Fez, the foundation of any good relationship is three little words: I-don't-know.
What're you doing? I don't know.
What're you thinking about? I don't know.
Who's that under you? I don't know. "
-Michael Kelso
by 92wastheyear on Nov 1, 2008 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rudy looked a tad frustrated
He works hard moving without the ball and only got up 6 shots tonight. If he is going to play about 29-30 minutes a night I would like to see him average around 10 shots a game.
Just before that one long ill-advised three I predicted that he would throw up a shot the next time he touched the ball – and he did just that. Brandon wasn’t driving and kicking the ball back out to him as he does to Trout, and to Marty last year. I’m sure they will work that out as the year goes on. Rudy has such a quick release I’m not sure our players always realize when he is open enough to get up a good shot. That could be one reason he likes playing with Sergio – although tonight Sergio wasn’t finding him either.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Nov 1, 2008 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Rudy seem to have a lot more touches in the first half and it energized his play. At halftime he led both teams in rebounds with seven! He would get just one more in the second half, as I recall. I was at the game and it didn’t seem to me that any of his shots were rushed, with the possible exception of his last one in the second half, which I think was an air ball and which may have been a frustration shot. The other shots seemed under control and game situation appropriate. As someone earlier wrote, he’s just got a very fast release, which is good. His shot was just off.
I do wonder if San Antonio adjusted at half time to address Rudy’s effectiveness or the Blazers just paid less attention to him in the second half. And was it just a coincidence that Rudy’s second-half drop off coincided with San Antonio’s closing Portland’s lead to almost zero?
by Trutherlizer on Nov 1, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's not forget rudy was playing the 3 as well...
..nate did a lot of sliding around of positions, i believe rudy played the 3 for a good portion of the game, he got 8 boards and 6 points, what you need out of a forward, he had good passes, no one connected after any of them.
by appel82 on Nov 1, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steve Blake
He was still a pretty steady presence on offense, but as you say:
> “I thought Steve looked worse tonight, particularly on the defensive end, than I can remember. He was beaten so easily to the basket on numerous occasions for gimme layups. Parker — extremely quick, great body control, solid shooting (he can make uncontested layups) — is one of the worst matchups in the NBA for Blake.”
I was surprised at the lack of adjustment in the fourth quarter when Tony Parker decided to win the game singlehandedly. He was waltzing past Blake at will, and I wondered whether Bayless-Roy-Nico wouldn’t have been a better defensive lineup for the fourth quarter, capable of staying in front of Parker and helping each other out. Why no adjustment? Huh?
by Kaboomm on Nov 1, 2008 12:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
what’d you think of nic’s job on TP?
honor terry porter
by Ben. on Nov 1, 2008 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I recall ...
It was just on the last possession of the first half. I thought it was bizarre, but then I realized it was just a defensive set for one possession and it worked out well. Nico didn’t get up too close, and Parker couldn’t get around him. Nico just takes up too much width. Nice.
by Kaboomm on Nov 1, 2008 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
again later, too
I remember speculating whether they were taunting each other in French.
by Section323 on Nov 1, 2008 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Batum was much better
during his limited chances defending Parker. To be fair to both PG’s however, keep in mind that Parker averaged 23 or 24 points per game in the Conference Semi’s last year against Chris Paul. Honestly, you’re either going to have to live with Tony beating his man, or coming up with a scheme to specifically take him out of his game.
by as11osu on Nov 1, 2008 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Living with Tony
> Honestly, you’re either going to have to live with Tony beating his man, or coming up with a scheme to specifically take him out of his game.
I have to think that’s your job as coach when he takes over the fourth quarter — come up with an answer. Blake wasn’t the answer.
by Kaboomm on Nov 1, 2008 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Bayless
But he might not have been the answer either, and he likely wasn’t the answer offensively if he isn’t sure what to do in our sets.
There ain’t really an answer for Tony Parker; you just gotta take advantage of him on offense since he is a poor defender.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Nov 1, 2008 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Other than the Mafia
There really isn’t an answer for Tony Parker in the Blazers’ stable. Maybe in a year or so.
by DonkeyShins on Nov 1, 2008 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you want Nate to suit up?
There is oly so much a coach can do. He’s not on the court. It is not like he can conjure up some fantasy league player and magically insert him into the game. He has to go with the guys he’s got.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Nov 3, 2008 6:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
couldn't stop Parker either
one on one in iso at the top was impossible for Nic to defend Parker as well. Nic got his ankles solidly broken, just like Blakey and Sergio. Parker was beating us off the dribble every time, I was very surprised Nate didn’t go zone, at least fro a few defensive sets. Still, it shows the confidence that Nate has in Nic, as a 3, to be putting him the other team’s best guard.
Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com
by sergioFTW on Nov 1, 2008 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I saw, too
Nic could bother Parker’s outside shot, but if Parker decided to drive, Batum couldn’t keep up with him.
by Trutherlizer on Nov 1, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was yelling at the 4 minute mark
when Tony was put back in the game, that we HAVE to put Batum back in. He was and is our best chance at defending players like TP that are that quick and can score inside.
by as11osu on Nov 1, 2008 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want a Bedgers report
are you guys too drunk to post (sorry, not family friendly)?
Nice report, Ben.
Tonight I caught a t-shirt during the t shirt toss. This is nearly a miracle, as Section 323 simply NEVER gets t shirts (until tonight, this was literally true, back through all of last season). Nice of the Blazers to win so that my t-shirt wasn’t tainted by a sad sad loss.
by Section323 on Nov 1, 2008 1:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw that!
(Your t-shirt catch). Wish I’d known it was you. (I’m in Row E .) The girl in front of me was standing up with a sign about ESPN and I didn’t see the t-shirt coming, just the catch. Good work!
"That game sucked, but I saw so much that makes me wanna see the next game. ... There's so much to be excited about. I'm so happy to be a Blazer fan." - hobobob 10/28/08
by jorga on Nov 1, 2008 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What did the t-shirt say?
I got one a looooong time ago and it was like a Wells Fargo shirt. I was bummed. I think it had a Blazers logo, but was mostly all bank-focused. LAME.
MOrtimer
by Mortimer on Nov 1, 2008 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I got one a year or two back
Had Sprite emblazoned all over it and a little Blazers logo like an afterthought. Some of those promotions are shameless.
by shralpster on Nov 1, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I'm a Wells Fargo ad
with a Blazers logo on the front. I don’t mind. I’ve already got Blazer shirts. I just like the novelty of it.
by Section323 on Nov 1, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get me wrong
I was plenty excited to catch one too, in the upper upper deck cheapest of cheap seats!
I unrolled it and was like “oh”. But I was happy to get it! I like free shirts.
When they got free t-shirts for filling out a credit card app, I just put in a lotta fake info and say Helllllo free shirt!
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Nov 2, 2008 9:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rudy's
shot selection seemed a little questionable tonight and hopefully that clears up as jacking up 3s without probing the offense doesent seem like the vet move (unless you are Ricky Davis.)
Feel free to hook me up with your press credentials as I will be in Phoenix for tomorrows game. I once got a gold star in elementary school so I could probably write up something really nice.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
by jonestr on Nov 1, 2008 1:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Do it jonestr
I will read it.
"You're really making me feel good about myself, little man," says Oden as he starts dancing after scoring a goal. "You better come harder than that."
by BlueBooYay on Nov 1, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blake was largely invisble
in his 32 minutes on the floor. He really appears to be the weakest link in the starting rotation right now. But given Nate’s evident mistrust of Sergio and Bayless’ lack of seasoning, he does not seem in any danger of losing his job. It’s a shame, though. With enough playing time, I believe Sergio would eventually give them better prodcution at the 1.
by knickfan on Nov 1, 2008 1:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
...
I agree. McMillan seems to have no trust. Sergio should be getting the minuets this year. Blake seems to be tooken out of the game on defense by a PG who can score at all.
"I just know that I can't get big, I can't eat whatever I want to. I have to eat healthy, I have to stay right, I have to stay involved and ... I have to be here at practice because you know what? I can play pretty quick."
by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 1, 2008 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sergio doesn't fit
on the first unit. He’s picture perfect for the 2nd unit, or at least the unit that was supposed to be 2nd at the beginning of the year. I hope Nate sees what appears obvious to me, and they start Batum, and leave Outlaw to the 2nd unit. In addition, after not playing tonight, a fresh Jerryd Bayless in PHX sounds like a recipe for success, or at least more of one than playing our tired starters from tonight a lot of minutes (Blake).
by as11osu on Nov 1, 2008 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
first shmirst
i’m not so sure how well the first team/second team concept serves us right now. At the moment, the better offensive flow occurs with Batum and Rudy on the floor, the “second unit.” And Blake and Outlaw have difficulty creating team offense and they’re on the “first unit.” This team is something of a jumble right now! These identities will be increasingly in flux because the staid halfcourt offense that Steve Blake has been running will become less and less attractive when Nate sees what dynamic team oriented players like Nic and Rudy can do.
by Blazin' on Nov 1, 2008 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't share your optimism even though I would like to.
Blake is a mediocre PG, no question about that. The best and worst thing about Blake is that he will not try to too much on offense. He’ll play off the ball and won’t try to make plays when he can defer to better players.
Sergio should be traded eventually. Nate’s offense is so completely elementary and shallow, high school teams have a more sophisticated system. In fact, it’s pretty much a middle-school offensive system where you let your best players go 1on1 and hope that results in a bucket. Sergio will NEVER succeed in this offense because he is not a 1on1 player and frankly he’s not good enough in the half-court. He needs to be on a running team with finishers and shooters. This is not a knock on Sergio, I think he has talent, he’s just on the wrong team with the wrong coach.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
by blzrfan on Nov 1, 2008 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nate McMillan mostly utilitzes a high/low zone offense.
http://www.cybersportsusa.com/hooptactics/hilozone.asp
It’s based heavily passing without too much motion — although McMillan sometimes implements a 3-high/2-low motion offense: http://www.coachesclipboard.net/MotionOffense.html — and several isolation plays for the shooting guard (i.e., Brandon Roy).
McMillan is an awful tactician apropos of offense, which is a disgrace; he must improve in that regard.
by AK1984 on Nov 1, 2008 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fancy name for a simple offense
I suppose it works great when you have Hakeem in the low post.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
by blzrfan on Nov 1, 2008 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hakeem Olajuwon was way, way too athletic and versatile to solely be a low-post player.
Yet, Patrick Ewing exemplifies your point to a tee; he’s Greg Oden’s closest comparison, too.
Sans a premier low-post scorer, it’s very hard to succeed without well-executed offensive sets.
by AK1984 on Nov 1, 2008 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patrick Ewing had an exceptional jump shot and offensive arsenal
If Oden can demonstrate half the skills of Ewing I’ll be very excited.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
by blzrfan on Nov 1, 2008 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patrick Ewing developed a ...
face-to-the-basket game partway through his career; he lacked it in college.
Once Greg Oden can drain a sweet baseline jumper — à la Ewing — he’ll be gold.
by AK1984 on Nov 1, 2008 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, AK1984
Coachesclipboarrd.net is a great website!
by Trutherlizer on Nov 1, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Sergio thrives in an uptempo game. And it’s pretty clear that Nate favors a more deliberate, half court offense. I’m betting that is the root of the ongoing dissonance between the two.
Moreover, it appears that Nate is firmly committed to that more deliberate approach with the first unit. So the poster above who said that Sergio would be a poor fit for the first unit is probably correct. But it doesn’t have to be that way. I think the Blazers have the talent in the first unit to play a more uptempo game if they had the right point guard. And I think Sergio has the skills to eventually be that point guard.
by knickfan on Nov 1, 2008 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sergio would look good in Pringles' offense up in NY
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
by blzrfan on Nov 1, 2008 1:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'd certainly be better than Mardy Collins, whose ...
team option was moronically exercised by Donnie Walsh.
by AK1984 on Nov 1, 2008 1:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Blazers' rotation on help defense was utter **** tonight.
Unless Nate McMillan finally understands that marvelous man-to-man defense won’t shut down the opposition without equally outstanding help defense, his coaching style will be mirrored in mediocrity.
by AK1984 on Nov 1, 2008 1:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
joel wanted to but was in foul trouble...
..there were several times when joel could have done more, but didn’t want to risk another foul.
by appel82 on Nov 1, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regarding the upcoming contest versus the Phoenix Suns, ...
Shaquille O’Neal and Amare Stoudemire can’t guard the pick-‘n’-roll to save their lives.
As a result, Brandon Roy and Joel Przybilla should have a field day down in sunny Arizona.
by AK1984 on Nov 1, 2008 1:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll be happy if Joel throws the ball in Shaq's grille and yells
HEY! SHAQ! TELL ME HOW’S MY PASS TASTE?!
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Nov 1, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
.
The future starting PG for the “big 3” will be decided on who (Sergio/Bayless) develops quicker into the player KP wants our PG to be.
"I just know that I can't get big, I can't eat whatever I want to. I have to eat healthy, I have to stay right, I have to stay involved and ... I have to be here at practice because you know what? I can play pretty quick."
by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 1, 2008 1:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Those two guys don't fit Nate McMillan's mold of a tall, selfless, and defensive-minded point guard.
Kirk Hinrich would definitely be the optimum fit here; however, some folks don’t seem to understand that.
by AK1984 on Nov 1, 2008 1:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
tall, selfess, defensive minded
these are all good things, but not what make a great point guard.
by Blazin' on Nov 1, 2008 1:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a tough one.
Although I’m torn on this issue — as I love legitimate lead point guards (e.g., Chris Paul) — Nate McMillan has shown a penchant for aforesaid types of floor generals during his coaching career.
by AK1984 on Nov 1, 2008 2:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your comments are an education for me, AK1984.
Lots of Blazer fans and BEdgers complain about Nate, but you are one of the few who provides well-reasoned criticisms of his coaching style and tendencies. Nate seems to like point guards who play the game the way he did. He’s not the only coach who shows that kind of preference, and there are GMs who like players who played the way they did (Geoff Petrie). I can understand why he would feel comfortable with a PG who reminds him of himself, but it makes me uncomfortable to think he might be too inflexible in that regard. The best coaches implement the offense that best uses the talents of the players they have, not the players they wish they had.
Looking at the current Blazers, the two best players are LaMarcus and Brandon. It seems to me you would want an offense built around them. Do you feel that the high/low zone offense is the best choice? If not, which one do you think would be?
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Nov 1, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sergio
much as I like him, doesn’t quite have the talent to play pg at a playoff level. It’s too early to tell about Bayless but my sense is that’s not his natural position. But, if we have the 3 covered, and we’re looking to trade some of our depth for an established nba talent, at what better or more needed position than the 1?
by Blazin' on Nov 1, 2008 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you know?
Dude’s hardly been given a chance here. And if there’s one position that a player needs to grow into, it’s point guard. Steve Nash was meh for his first several years in the league, also. During those years, I’m sure that a lot of people similarly wrote him off as something less than a playoff calibre PG.
by knickfan on Nov 1, 2008 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
point taken
and i agree, he hasn’t been given a chance, but nate is so cautious/controlling about his pg, he’d rather play a guy who can’t do the job because he doesn’t hurt you with mistakes. Nate must be accounted for here. Do you think he’s ever going to give Sergio a vote of confidence? And until he does, can Sergio really get his confidence?
by Blazin' on Nov 1, 2008 2:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prolly not
which is why Sergio will eventually be traded to a team whose coach favors an uptempo offense.
Like the Knicks.
by knickfan on Nov 1, 2008 2:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
look at you
trying to steal our Sergio ;)
Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com
by sergioFTW on Nov 1, 2008 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nate kind of gave him a vote of confidence.
He publicly named Sergio the backup during camp.
Actions speak louder than words, though.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Nov 1, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nash was far from meh his first few years.
He was just new and playing behind Jason Kidd and someone else, forget who, his first time in Phoenix. He produced when given minutes in Dallas, which supports the argument of the play-Sergio crowd.
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Nov 1, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nash was indeed meh his first few years, even when he was given playing time
Nash started every game he played in his 3rd year and averaged 31.7 minutes per game. He averaged 7.9 points per game on 36.3% shooting, 5.5 assists, 2.9 rebounds, 2.1 TO, and a PER 0f 10.9. Basically, he put up worse numbers than Blake did last year. Nash didn’t really look like an above-average player until he had a breakout year in his 5th season.
by trk on Nov 1, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He followed the classic learning curve
everyone talks about for NBA point guards. He shot 42% from the field and over 41% from beyond the arc his first two seasons in Phoenix. His third season was an anomaly. His shooting dipped that one year probably because that was his first year in Dallas. He regained his touch the following year and continued to improve after that.
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Nov 1, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nate just didn't want to use serg. against the slow tempo spurs...
…he’ll probably use him more against teams like the knicks, phoenix, golden state though…
..probably. unless his mancrush for bayless can evolve…
by appel82 on Nov 1, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sat next to Nic's English coach
She was really cool and said she wasn’t an NBA fan before but that she’s learning the game and really rooting for Nic. She said he’s extremely intelligent (very high grades in school). Tonight he played very well and the crowd loved him.
Sergio has a knack for making passes that lead to layups and dunks, for both teams. - Ben G.
by jamon51 on Nov 1, 2008 1:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Blazers have a long way to go
learning to play together, tightening up their defense. Hopefully Nate will get with it on the offensive end. But this is good news tonight! With Batum playing at this level, all we need to be a playoff quality team is a real point guard. So who’s coming on the market?
by Blazin' on Nov 1, 2008 1:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Love our team but...
Steve Blake is mediocre. I have always loved the guy, but I personally can see KP trading Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw and a 1st round pick for a Stud Point Guard. I’m not sure who it is right now though. I think Batum fills a great role in the backup to Webster and Blake just can’t keep up with the elite PG’s in the league. What do you guys think?
When Webster gets healthy, Batum will get no minutes, and I think Nate wants him out there on the floor. Say goodbye to Travis sometime in December.
Depending on Detroit’s season, Billups could become available. But, I don’t know who we might go after. There are a couple teams in the league that could part ways with their PG.
by Stegie33 on Nov 1, 2008 1:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Now would be a good time
to revive all of those “Blazers should go after Chris Paul” posts that sprout like weeds here every summer.
by knickfan on Nov 1, 2008 1:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
felton! what about felton!
conley! don’t forget conley!
honor terry porter
by Ben. on Nov 1, 2008 2:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed, Mike Conley, Jr. and Raymond Felton ...
can’t shoot the rock efficiently and are so-so defenders.
Next …
by AK1984 on Nov 1, 2008 2:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kirk Hinrich can't
shoot the 3, or defend either (look at last years numbers), so I guess he’s out too.
by as11osu on Nov 1, 2008 2:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For Kirk Hinrich, last season was an anomaly/outlier.
I guarantee it, man.
by AK1984 on Nov 1, 2008 2:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2300 minutes
of outlier… that seems plausible. Especially for player that is supposed to come in and be our consistent day in day out point guard. Not to mention the contract. I don’t know how any reasonable person that understands the game can honestly suggest Hinrich. The thing that people are frustrated with Blake not doing (penetrating the lane and creating) Hinrich also doesn’t do.
by as11osu on Nov 1, 2008 2:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kirk Hinrich is a much, much better defender than Steve Blake.
Still, you made a good point about penetration; yet, Brandon Roy already doest that.
by AK1984 on Nov 1, 2008 2:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what exactly is the reason
that you’re willing to excuse an entire year of data that places him amongst the bottom 5 defensive PG’s in the league? Because basically, this method of ignore the bad, we can run with, to justify acquiring just about any player.
by as11osu on Nov 1, 2008 2:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any savvy statistical analyst knows that we ought to ...
analyze the past three seasons of someone’s performance.
One season worth of performance is, well, a small sample size.
by AK1984 on Nov 1, 2008 2:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If those two are inadequate
the Blazers should pursue Deron Williams, then. I think Utah would happily give him up for Sergio and Martell Webster.
by knickfan on Nov 1, 2008 2:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
Dude, Deron Williams isn’t going anywhere.
You might be acting sarcastically, though. Sadly, however, I’m too buzzed to pick up on that.
by AK1984 on Nov 1, 2008 2:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AK
I’m simply attempting to resuscitate a time-honored Blazer’s Edge tradition of suggesting ludicrously one-sided trades for point guards like Paul, Williams, Harris, Calderon.
It seems to have fallen out of fashion of late and I think it’s high time that it make a comeback.
by knickfan on Nov 1, 2008 2:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'm a former Sonic fan ...
who agrees with you on that account.
by AK1984 on Nov 1, 2008 2:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of the former Sonics
I think the Blazers should offer Shavlik Randolph for Russell Westbrook.
by knickfan on Nov 1, 2008 2:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They do need a savvy vet like Shav.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Nov 1, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good call, knickfan, that is a very one sided trade
why would we give them Sergio AND Martell for a scrub like Deron.
by shralpster on Nov 1, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please don't encourage those folks, knickfan!
Some of them won’t get your sarcasm.
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Nov 1, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we have to consider age
if all goes well, our window is going to be opening in 3-5 years.
by Blazin' on Nov 1, 2008 2:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not the strongest pick..
But Andre Miller could also be an option. I haven’t really watched him play in awhile though.
by Stegie33 on Nov 1, 2008 2:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andre Miller can't hit jump shots.
Plus, his defense is on a sharp decline.
by AK1984 on Nov 1, 2008 2:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steve Blake pros and cons
Pros
- Veteran in his prime years, not near the end of his career
- Plays within himself and makes few mistakes
- Doesn’t demand shots or minutes
- Hits shots when he does take them
- Practices and plays hard
- Reasonable contract
- Loves Portland & fits Blazer culture
Cons
- Is not Chris Paul, Deron Williams, or Devin Harris
- Average quickness and athleticism
- Can’t stay in front of Tony Parker and Chris Paul
Steve’s pros clearly outweigh his cons, but the real reason he will probably enjoy a long tenure as a Blazer is because there simply isn’t another PG out there KP can get who offers a significantly better total package.
Even if Nate gave Sergio or Bayless Blake’s minutes, there’s no guarantee they would be better players, and the team would take its lumps until they proved whether they are better than Blake.
The Blazers are pushing for the playoffs this year and hoping to contend for titles after that. KP and Nate don’t want to keep adding and replacing starters because it takes time for new and current players to learn to play with each other and further delays the championship timetable. The window for bringing-in a better starting point guard than Blake is closing fast.
Bottom line: I think Steve Blake is who we will run with, so we might as well embrace him and move on.
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Nov 1, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
sorry,
but if we embrace him, there won’t be any moving on. Not to a championship level. When the ball is in his hands, the defense has the advantage. Almost like we’re playing 4 on 5. Don’t you feel that?
And the inevitable result? 20’ jump shots. Or an isolation to BR or LMA. Can’t win a championship like that. Watch the teams that are at that level. Much more dynamic offense.
And the single most important thing the primary ball handler has to be able to do is set the rhythm of the attack. And if not create opportunities, to at least take advantage of them when they arise. He does none of these things.
Besides, we have cap space, and guys that need to be traded because they are not going to get enough PT on this team. So why wouldn’t we upgrade at a critical position that is now our weakest on the floor?
by Blazin' on Nov 1, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bayless anyone?
He’ll turn into a stud, mark my words…he’s got a good attitude at practice and loads of potential. Steve can hold down the fort until Bayless gets to where we need him.
Sergio has a knack for making passes that lead to layups and dunks, for both teams. - Ben G.
by jamon51 on Nov 1, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The answer was and is Devin Harris
I say we pony up, offer the requisite players (outside of the big 4) and welcome him with open arms (and 4-5 less parts and draft picks)
by as11osu on Nov 1, 2008 2:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I definitely agree with you ...
that Devin Harris would’ve totally been the best available addition—albeit last year.
Harris, though, isn’t currently on the trading block; thus, Blazers must look elsewhere.
by AK1984 on Nov 1, 2008 2:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
God!!!!...
BEN,
YOU FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART!!!!
WE FINNISHED FASTBREAKS!!!
I steped into my living room, threw the candy onto the table, rushed over to the t.v. to catch the batum from brandon dunk…..
poor kids……lol..in retro spec I kinda maybe hustled them down the streets a bit….
BUT GOSH DARN IT…..I wanted to see this game. :)
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on Nov 1, 2008 6:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't see any Finnish fast breaks

…but yes, our fast breaking tonight was a tremendous sigh of relief. Fast breaks last year were comedy, although perhaps more like Perfect Strangers comedy than Seinfeld.
by shralpster on Nov 1, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thoughts
Rudy: His shot wasn’t falling – but he had only 1 turnover and pulled down 4 offensive and 4 defensive boards for a total of 8. Only Duncan with 10 had more. Rudy is a solid contributor who finds ways to help the team – and that means he’s going to play a lot.
Batum: The kids can play. Sure, he needs experience and maturity, and he’ll be inconsistent. But getting he and Rudy where we did are real steals.
Frye: Along with Batum, Frye is going to play a lot more minutes as his shot seems to have improved. And given his injury and lack of training camp time – he’ll be better in another week or two.
Blake, Bayless and Sergio: Mac is going to take his time with Bayless – regardless. Mac made it very clear a few days ago that Bayless needs time to learn to see the floor, know where the other players are, and then deliver the ball – and he’s going to give it to him. I thought that maybe Bayless might have matched up better with Parker on defense – but Mac wants people to take care of the ball – and the fact that we only had six turn-overs says a lot. Blake starts on this team precisely because of that fact.
Sergio will be the #2 PG. He is not a #1 PG at this point, because he simply cannot handle the Parkers of the world (nor can Blake). Once Mac develops more confidence in Bayless to play with Roy – who would be the distributor, I’m willing to bet we’ll see more of Bayless when defending the other point – as with Parker – becomes critical.
Roy had 7 assists, Blake only 2. Now who’s the PG here?
And, finally, we beat the Spurs without Greg. And without Webster. Not bad for a group of Kids.
by Eben Calder on Nov 1, 2008 7:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you see
Farmar simply destroy Bayless off of the dribble, over and over again, on opening night? And Deron Williams in preseason? Bayless has yet to show he can actually stop another good PG. Everyone sees his flailing defensive pressure and thinks it must mean he plays good D, but I’ve yet to see the good results.
Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com
by sergioFTW on Nov 1, 2008 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
great points, also
• as was brought up earlier… fast break points! wow!
• did you see the SA/PHOE game? parker is parker. he can beat any guard off the dribble
• i’m in such a better mood today
by rburg on Nov 1, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was the team I was expecting
Much better all around. Although I hated that last sequence.
In Sergio and Blake’s defense, Tony Parker is one of, if not THE, best in the world at penetrating into the key.
TO made better decisions, LMA got closer to the basket (for the most part), Roy became Roy again, Batum was a nice surprise.
I liked it all a lot, except that last sequence. Good job fellas!
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Nov 1, 2008 7:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah and Rudy
Good stuff, that Rudy. Needs to bone up on D a bit, but he’s fearless. Even though it might result in a bad shot here and there, I like it. The Blazers have a tendency to play tight and he counteracts that.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Nov 1, 2008 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Random comments
BEN : about the parachutes… had to laugh – one of the “golden parachutes” got hung up in the rafters and never got to fan level. I figured that was a good comment on the economy – snag those golden parachutes.
I saw several Sonics jerseys. Welcome to Rip City! Also a couple of Spurs’ and a group of teen (?) boys sporting nifty jerseys promoting Iverson, Morrison and I can’t remember who else. Lots of great costumes, though as I said to my friend “I can’t tell if some of those girls are costumed as hookers or if that’s the way they dress all the time…” I thought the Baby Blaze was really cute – I’m not sure if the one we saw on the concourse riding Daddy’s shoulders was the same as the one on the big screen, but it’s hard to imagine there was more than one. One of my favorite costumes was Bill Walton : Jersey, shorts, massive red hair and headband.
I was thinking I was probably the only one in the arena wearing a particular vintage shirt (because I don’t remember seeing too many of them back in the day) but I saw one on a young man – obviously a hand-me-down or Goodwill pick-up – he wasn’t old enough to have been able to wear it when new.
I couldn’t decide if a large number of women were dressed as Sarah Palin or if her look is suddenly very trendy but I saw lots of dark hair pulled back from the face with straight bangs – and glasses. Obama & McCain sitting side-by-side made the NBA highlights.
I love Nic! Mark Mason better learn to say “for three” in French like he does “por tres” for Sergio. Once I noticed Sergio & Rudy, Nic & T Parker were all on the floor together and wondered how long it will take to have a majority of “foreign” players on the floor at once. Too bad Ginobili and Oberto were out.
"That game sucked, but I saw so much that makes me wanna see the next game. ... There's so much to be excited about. I'm so happy to be a Blazer fan." - hobobob 10/28/08
by jorga on Nov 1, 2008 8:50 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The Walton guy
was sooooo pale too, he definitely took his costume seriously, that’s some serious commitment. And yes, Baby Blaze was the cutest thing EVER.
Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com
by sergioFTW on Nov 1, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good thing ginobili and oberto were out...
i doubt we would have won otherwise.
by appel82 on Nov 1, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben!
Thanks for another awesome report, you are the only source for this kind of at-game/in locker room reporting for the fans, it’s appreciated!
Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com
by sergioFTW on Nov 1, 2008 8:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Young team, young coach
Ben. Thanks much for an excellent piece.
Lots of comments on the coach. Some thoughts:
1. I heard on the radio, that you dont play schemes until you’ve practiced them real hard. With the Blazers, Nate takes over a roster whose core identity gets overhauled each year — Zach-centric, feature LMA/Roy, integrate Oden. The roster is the youngest or 2nd youngest and several stars have played little college ball (LMA & Oden: 2 & 1 yr respectively). Therefore team-members don’t already understand a basic NBA playbook from somewhere else. Nate gets 1 month of pre-season to understand what “these kids” are capable of, instill NBA sets, teach them how to react to NBA defenses, and how the NBA game is called. Oh, and you’ve got to learn how to play NBA defense against the other teams during this short time as well. All this while, you dont have a gelled group of veterans to help young kids or newbies along. Next throw in the spate of injuries — imagine practicing and getting excited by pick&roll sets with Oden during this pre-season, and then losing him right away.
So, I’m hardly surprised that the playbook at this time is just the basics. Expect that we will play the basics for awhile, get our team to gel, absorb how teams react and then build more sophisticated sets. The real tough teams — Spurs, Jazz, etc are very disciplined and very efficient; but it takes a lot of time to build this game-time efficiency.
2. Wasn’t Nate the youngest (at that time) head coach in the NBA when he took over the Sonics? This was a team that 2 years prior he actually played on, so he knew their capabilities. Nate is still learning as he goes. Lacking the many, many years of experience that Sloan, Pop and Jackson have on him; Nate is achieving success on pure talent alone (his and his teams).
3. Has the run-n-gun ala recent Suns ever won a championship? The other running game relies on superlative defense, and then team understanding of who’s going to leak out, making the passes, and where people prefer their passes. My guess is that this type of running game only develops after the defense has matured. Both Oden and Webster were key pieces of our defense. [Batum is an exciting, but very recent, surprise]. So at this point, we’re playing defense with less than our ideal line-up.
Imagine what the team will be like when both Nate and the team are more experienced.
by FromAfar on Nov 1, 2008 9:41 AM PDT reply actions 7 recs
Everyone should read this post
And Rec it. Well formulated arguments.
by DonkeyShins on Nov 1, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So why didn't you?!
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Nov 1, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did!
I was referring to FromAfar’s post when I said ‘Rec’.
by DonkeyShins on Nov 1, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know you were talking about FromAfar's post
but at the time I posted my comment there were zero recs showing. There are four recs on it now. I’ll go ahead and make it green…
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Nov 1, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you covered about everything i'd say on this subject.
It was noted in a news story that the blazers run some of the basic and fundamental plays anywhere. Youth, constant changing roster (this BETTER be the last year of any major overhaul) and lack of NBA experience are all huge parts of that.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Nov 1, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He ran the same offense in Seattle with a veteran team
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
by blzrfan on Nov 1, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"You're really making me feel good about myself, little man," says Oden as he starts dancing after scoring a goal. "You better come harder than that."
by BlueBooYay on Nov 1, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
great post
would just like to point out that there is something in between the run-n-gun and being last in the league in points off the fast break/points in transition. Running a 3 on 2 or a 2 on 1 is not particularly sophisticated. Players have to get the right angle/lane and you need a ball handler with a sense of timing. Being able to convert fast break opportunities is analagous to making your free throws. It shouldn’t require a gelled team or an evolved offensive framework. What it does require is ball handlers with a nose for attack.
by Blazin' on Nov 1, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you picked up your coaching credentials where?
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Nov 3, 2008 7:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you picking on Blazin?
Everyone on this site expresses their basketball (and other) opinions. Who says you have to be a coach to do that? You sound testy again, tim. Relax, you’ll feel better after Obama and the Dems take away your guns and sterilize you.
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Nov 3, 2008 9:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry Blazin,
I am being a little too touchy here. I do get tired of seeing some people offer what amounts to opinion as to what the Blazers should be doing and saying that if Nate was any good, he’d have them doing it. If things were that easy, half of us here could coach in the NBA.
I look at Portland’s record last season in OT games and games decided by 3 points or less as a much better indication of how good of a coaching job Nate is doing, than I do number of fast break points. Or the fact the team has improved by 21 wins in just two years.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Nov 3, 2008 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What DonkeyShins says.
This is the sort of comment I come to BE for.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Nov 3, 2008 7:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
daaaammmmnnn....
Rebecca Harlow looking foxy tonight!
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Nov 1, 2008 11:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Scale of 1 to 10… 7 at best. But I’m sure she’s good to her mother.
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Nov 1, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes she was
"You're really making me feel good about myself, little man," says Oden as he starts dancing after scoring a goal. "You better come harder than that."
by BlueBooYay on Nov 1, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game day review
Can I just say DANG those cheerleaders are hot! Seriously, i don’t know why the salt lake cheerleaders bug me so much. Why do i care about ugly outfits and an inability to dance and do stunts? I do though. Luckily I never have ANY worries about the Blazer cheerleaders. My gf was drooling too until they brought out Batum, then she drooled over him… NOT COOL… ahem… not because of some… ahem double standard. I mean… it’s because he’s sophia’s! Yeah… that’s it!
I noticed the noise. Maybe it’s just because it was opening day. The only time i’ve ever heard it louder was during the 2000 game 6 western conference. Not only that but it was NEVER quiet. I would hope blazer fans would bring that EVERY game and just get better. I know I can’t speak at all this morning. Checking out of my hotel room will be fun.
I agree with Ben that it never felt like we’d lose until the last 3 seconds when I was a little concerned.
The crowd actually started a number of chants itself and I was happy to see that the stupid little timeout activities didn’t break-up the momentum of the crowd as much as it did last year. It felt like they were trying to play along with the crowd and direct that energy somewhat. Nice improvement and hopefully they keep that up.
Rudy… he’s just amazing. For those who didn’t see and only look at his stats, the guy did so much more than his stats show. He’s quick and he hustles like crazy. He’s on onside and suddenly on the other grabbing a rebound or a ball that went erratic for whatever reason.
Batum looked good. I didn’t see blatant errors. I really like him starting over outlaw and i was glad ot see that he got major minutes this game. If nate will let him play, he’ll be on my fantasy league roster soon enough.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Nov 1, 2008 11:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice report from The Garden, Fan Side, rastabird
"You're really making me feel good about myself, little man," says Oden as he starts dancing after scoring a goal. "You better come harder than that."
by BlueBooYay on Nov 1, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most satisfying game for me since last season's Atlanta game when Roy shut down Johnson
Thanks Blazers. The fanbase needed a pick-me-up after the opener against the Evil Empire earlier this week.
by jaywalker on Nov 1, 2008 11:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Much props to Ben on the Captain Planet reference.
Green Mullet, HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
It doesn't matter who they vote for. As long as I get to pick who's running.
J.D. Rockefeller
I don't write checks, straight cash homey...
Randy Moss
by OURVYDAS on Nov 1, 2008 2:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Improvement.
Thankfully we did better. Hard to be worse than game 1 in L.A. Let’s keep it going in the right direction.
by CanadianBlazerfan on Nov 1, 2008 3:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks Ben
I got super drunk in Grenwitch village last night and didn’t see a second of the game :(
Almost got arrested though!
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Nov 1, 2008 4:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was at the game and I had fun
I saw a dunk and it was neat.
On the way in some lady tried to hand me a button and said it was non-political. I said no thank you but she managed to give three buttons to my wife that said, “Vote for LaMarcus More basketball less politics.”
It is really hard to catch a cab after the game.
This space for rent.
by tominhawaii on Nov 1, 2008 9:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
true that on the cabs.
honor terry porter
by Ben. on Nov 2, 2008 10:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We walked to Taco Bell and called a friend for a ride
This space for rent.
by tominhawaii on Nov 2, 2008 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What I saw Friday night.
The sort of performances out of Brandon and LaMarcus we expect.
Solid play from Joel in the paint (and some really weak touch foul calls on him).
Rudy constantly moving and finding ways to contribute even when his shot was on.
Travis playing within the offense – I was surprised to see at one point he was 1 of 6 from the field, as his play seemed pretty good.
Being electrified by Batum.
Seeing a second unit that I thought played really well together – Sergio ; Rudy ; Batum and Outlaw with either LaMarcus or Joel at center.
The Blazers getting defensive rebounds.
A well coached team. Yes all you Nate critics – Portland provided the best proof of all that McMillan can coach. His guys stayed calm, held together and beat a first class, veteran that was on fire from the three point line in the second half.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Nov 3, 2008 7:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

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