Nobody Loves Martell
Hate to say it, but it's true.
When Brandon went down, there was basically a city-wide candelight vigil.
When Greg went down, this site's readership collectively re-worked their workout plans, losing something like 12,000 pounds (or 4 Robert Traylors, for those of you who use the metric system).
When Frye went down, it wasn't quite as drastic but there was definitely some mourning. A LOT of "get well soon, channing!!!!! xoxooxxoo" were flying around.
When Steve Blake went down, well... it's Steve Blake. No one, ever, has gotten worked up over Steve Blake. That's why he's Steve Blake. That's why I love him.
When Rudy twisted an ankle last night? There were 27 cardiac failures reported and the rest of the crowd that survived gathered together the largest chant of the night: "RUDY RUDY RUDY" until he got up.
But when Martell goes down? No one seems to care at all.
He's out 8 to 12 weeks.
We won't be seeing him until 2009.
He's our starting 3, he was better-than-average trade bait, he's a good locker room guy, and he seemed more confident than ever (poised for a breakout?).
This is trouble. This isn't good. But, if a stress fracture happens in the woods, does it make a sound?
What's the deal with that? Help me out, I don't get it....
Maybe we're just desensitized to violence?
For the record, I don't love Martell, but I was finally starting to really appreciate what he brings to the table. And it's a lot.
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
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it’s because he’s NOT Brandon or Greg. We also have Rudy now. Now, obviosly he’s not a SF, but it’s just not as devestating losing Marty right not.
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by mark twain on
Oct 9, 2008 5:52 PM PDT
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I was going to say that exactly
Martell can’t bring the same thing that Roy or Oden bring, so it has much less of an impact. Rudy’s awesomeness makes it even easier to swallow.
by koyote on
Oct 9, 2008 7:09 PM PDT
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I believe both you are undervauling Webster's contributions
to this team.
Mr Clemens, you of all people shouldn’t be making this mistake. The guy most likely to replace him as a starter is the guy you want to trade.
I think Webster offers more dimensions than than Outlaw and is a better fit at SF than Rudy, (although I’ll qualify that last, as I haven’t seen Rudy play with this team). He’s big enough (and therefore strong enough) to play defense against the big wing players (James, Kobe, McGrady, Maggette, Pierce, etc), as a shooter he has more range than anyone except Fernandez and Blake (and maybe Aldridge), and last year he showed he can improve and add to his game (thus exhibiting a good BB IQ) by learning to drive to the basket and by playing better defense. By all accounts this summer he continued to work on his game and was apparently one of the most impressive guys on the court during voluntary workouts.
I believe that people do Webster a disservice when they leave him out of discussions about Portland’s young core of star quality players. I expect Martell to be on the same level as Roy, Aldridge and Oden. (I also see Rudy being there as well.) It is my opinion that as knowledgeable fans we should be talking less about available minutes and shot attempts and more about how our level of talent, quality of coaching and character of our players is going to translated into both a new paradigm of basketball, while at the same time, turn back the clock to old school basketball where teamwork, excelling at the fundamentals and working hard gets you to the promised land.
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by timg56 on
Oct 10, 2008 8:33 AM PDT
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Because he is not Chris Paul?
Odenied: If you're given lemmings—make lemming-ade (Bow4Meow)
by Norsktroll on
Oct 9, 2008 6:03 PM PDT
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And for the record: I like him, and wished him well in the announcement of his surgery.
Odenied: If you're given lemmings—make lemming-ade (Bow4Meow)
by Norsktroll on
Oct 9, 2008 6:05 PM PDT
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Because people don't understand basketball?
Anyone that watched last nights game, and understands the doubts that surround TO are fully concerned by this injury. Travis doesn’t fit the starting unit, and is starting to look like less of a fit on any unit.
by as11osu on
Oct 9, 2008 6:05 PM PDT
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and huge 2nd on that
The pictures kinda small, but Im giving the C's a big thumbs down
by Blazermaniac77 on
Oct 9, 2008 6:28 PM PDT
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Yah here, as well,
This season looked like Webs chance to gain some ground…the mindset and desire was there. ….
There was a time I had no faith at all in Webster and had written him off, but he seemed like he was getting on track….unlike Outlaw who seemingly jumped off to let him take over…But Outlaw was never high on my list either, and he is now, even lower….Not because of the poor game last night , but his head is not in the “Blazer state of mind” …..The need for his contribution is falling off rapidly and when he can’t do what he supposedly does best…..then what?
I’m hoping Roy and Rudy can play some 3, because it sure looks grim if we are relying on Outlaw to fill in some gaps….Question is: How long will the Blazers wait to move on?
by 67 on
Oct 9, 2008 7:13 PM PDT
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Definitely
The first and second games were night and day, and it wasn’t just because Roy wasn’t playing. I’m worried because the beginning of the season is when our team will be weakest and our schedule toughest. I also hope martell will return to form after his recovery time because I’d hate to see him lose what he has worked hard for. He’s still really young, I think he’ll be ok. We just have to wait a couple more months to see this team at its full potential.
Things happen for a reason they say, but I say there's a reason things happen.
by sixth on
Oct 9, 2008 8:51 PM PDT
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I couldn't agree more
Webster is a smart player, while Travis…..well, Travis is a heck of an athlete when he wants to be, and who knows when he’s going to show up on a given night?. Rudy is going to be a superstar, but it’s going to take him at least a few months to get used to the NBA game. There’s alot to be said about knowing the tendancies of the players on the opposing teams you will be facing and even more importantly, the extreme tendancies of NBA officials(I’m talking to you, Steve Javy). The only way to learn that stuff is through experience. I think Webster has finally figured it out and it totally sucks that he’s out for 2+ months. If wasn’t so macho, I’d be weeping like a child with a skinned knee right now.
by kikifromdowntown on
Oct 10, 2008 9:43 AM PDT
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Please...
Take Outlaw’s performance with a grain of salt. He was playing with teammates most of that game who prolly won’t even see much of the floor in the regular season. He was thrown into a position he’s not used to. He will learn he needs to do other things better when starting. Rebound, post up in the corner and shoot the 3. We’re talking one preseason game, please people have a better outlook. If he stinks it up that bad once the season starts we might have a problem.
by Odynasty on
Oct 10, 2008 11:45 AM PDT
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gee, I was hoping
to see those players on the floor more than Outlaw…they were a lot more fun to watch ….and what position was he thrown into? Taking jumpers, without the slightest possibility of driving to the hoop and making sure no one else was in the play, losing his man on defense?….He did this all of last year, but he does look like he is getting more consistent at it…..And what learning curve is he on? Rebounding and posting up in the corner for 3’s, are not the only things he needs to learn…..
by 67 on
Oct 13, 2008 12:51 AM PDT
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I like Martell.
I like Martell. I do rate him one of our better players. It is too bad about his injury. I hope he gets better soon.
by CanadianBlazerfan on
Oct 9, 2008 6:13 PM PDT
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So Ben . . .
You going to change your signature again? It seemed to be good karma for Brandon.
It’s a good question. The press seemed more freaked out about Greg’s ankle. Maybe we’re under-reacting somewhat because we over-reacted to Brandon’s knee and Greg’s ankle? Maybe it’s an injury that needs to sink in before we can assess the impact?
Personally, I’m mildly bummed. Probably about the same I was when I heard about Channing’s surgery. I was looking forward to seeing what Martell (and Channing, for that matter) brought to the table this year. It’s the time of year when I have high hopes for every guy on the team.
by Corvid on
Oct 9, 2008 6:21 PM PDT
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applaussssssse! and a standing lonley soul.
thanks for the reality check.
Get well soon Martell.
and I feel ashamed.
"You just WATCHED history No need to study it! You LIVED it."
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by faith on
Oct 9, 2008 6:22 PM PDT
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onley the lonley
We cannot put up with this flagrant lack of accountability anymore.
by MT Suit on
Oct 9, 2008 7:08 PM PDT
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Great tune
I will see if I can dredge it out of my memory blank[bank?] and I like Martell a lot
by southern oregon on
Oct 9, 2008 7:18 PM PDT
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I wanted to vote "they love travis" so bad....
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by faith on
Oct 10, 2008 4:34 AM PDT
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It's because he's unextended.
Well, that’s PART of it, anyway.
Trout felt like this to us before he was extended, I think.
Just knowing that Martell has no commitment to us come next year this time impacts things.
"Mister Oden is a very, very big human being." - Jerryd Bayless
by QualityPie on
Oct 9, 2008 7:09 PM PDT
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my take...
1. The Oden love-fest is in full swing
2. The Rudy love-fest is in full swing
3. The fans’ attention is on actual live gameplay
4. A slight dose of shell shock at the lack of luck our team currently has with staying healthy
5. A slight dose of relief that it didn’t happen to one of our Trifecta
6. A fear that dwelling on it will only bring bad karma
7… and this is a big one, it’s hard to feel too bad right now with all the positive momentum the team has and the gloriously deep bench to work with
Stir together in a large bowl with beaters until there are no more lumps, bake for 40 minutes at 300 F, and you have apathy about losing your starting 3.
Get better soon Martell! You are needed on that 1st unit!
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by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on
Oct 9, 2008 7:17 PM PDT
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those are well put
I can relate to all of those points you make. In particular #6. I just want it to not be true. I really don’t even like recognizing it.
"Rudy’s flashy passes had the place whispering to each other like we were in junior high" ~BlazermaniacAndy
by courtsideerrandboy on
Oct 9, 2008 7:50 PM PDT
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You're right.
For me, I’m really bummed about the injury.
But regarding the general reaction of readers on BEdge, I think that the reason is that all these other injuries happened during the dog days of the offseason. At that time it was the only thing there was to talk about. Now we have Rudy, Oden, and preseason games in the news. Let’s count our blessings that Steve and Channing are coming back and hope that Brandon and Greg make full recoveries.
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by CaptainSexyJacob on
Oct 9, 2008 8:21 PM PDT
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I think this is a good point.
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by timg56 on
Oct 10, 2008 8:37 AM PDT
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Love you Martell, but...Rude Boy!!!
As soon as I heard he was down, I thought about Rudy. More playing time for Rudy in some new ways shapes and formats. Even if we barely make the playoffs…honestly Rudy looks like the most exciting player I’ve seen in a long time. Here’s hoping he gets plenty of p.t. to make the adjustments quicker.
I don’t wish for it to be at the expense of Martell, I was looking forward to him potentially breaking out…but I guess this begins to help solve the “too deep” questions we have for the time being. But, I can’t take any more significant injuries!
Get well Marty! You’ll be welcomed back.
~Z
"Rudy’s flashy passes had the place whispering to each other like we were in junior high" ~BlazermaniacAndy
by courtsideerrandboy on
Oct 9, 2008 7:47 PM PDT
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Sometimes you don't know what you have missed
Until you don’t have it anymore. Martell is example #1A for those wise words.
That and he finally appears ready to show us all what he can really do with his all around game. Fortunately it won’t be to long till he’s back.
The Oden Era, Day 469
by Heymoe on
Oct 9, 2008 8:00 PM PDT
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get well soon, martell!!!!! xoxooxxoo
We good?
by grimc on
Oct 9, 2008 8:14 PM PDT
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I've been down
since yesterday. That injury is a big deal to me and it’s long term. We don’t have a lot of great small forwards who can fill his shoes.
The fact that the injury came along with the disappointing loss is even worse.
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by CaptainSexyJacob on
Oct 9, 2008 8:19 PM PDT
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Get well soon Marty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think the reason Marty hasn’t had a bigger response is from battle fatigue. I love Marty, honestly think he will be a part of this team in years to come, and was rocked by the news of his injury…but I think there isn’t more talk of this controversy because we are just so sick of hearing about our team getting injured. I’m sure if Channing, Blake, Roy and Greg hadn’t had their issues this would be much bigger news.
by oden is GOD OF WAR on
Oct 9, 2008 8:26 PM PDT
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Of course we love Martell....
Any red-blooded Blazer fan hates to see a starter out, and Martell has shown us glimpses of greatness (last years streak comes to mind – 24 points alone in the 3rd against Utah?!?) but also some real shakiness at times. Simply put, he is not yet a player that contributes so much to the team that without his minutes, we are doomed.
Now, just look at what Rudy has done in the last two PRE-SEASON games…People’s hearts dropped after the sprain because Blazer fans haven’t seen so much raw talent in a NBA rookie since, well B Roy.
The other thing is, it’s only 8-10 weeks. We will likely see him back by Christmas. It’s early in the season, our bench is deep, and in some ways having him out of the lineup for the start of the season my have some unexpected benefits by increasing other players PT.
That said, can’t wait for him to be back in the line up. Hopefully a breakout year!
by RudyisSick! on
Oct 9, 2008 8:27 PM PDT
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He will be an All Star
I don’t get the knocks on this guy. He is sooo young, and has improved his game every year, which is really all you can ask a young player. His improved rebounding and defense caught my attention late last year. I see him developing into a very good all around player, and an eventual all star….. for another team!
I think he will be a casualty of the gluttony of talent bestowed (by KP) upon this Blazers squad. I, personally, hope we can pay him and convince him to be the perimeter role player on a strong team for years to come, but I really see him being a big scorer as a first or second option on a weaker team. That’ll depend, largely, on him.
by 22 on
Oct 9, 2008 8:29 PM PDT
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I love Martell
Martell Webster is dopeness. He’s not the greatest player (yet) but he’s smart and he works hard and he’s getting better. When he comes back in January, he’s going to be just the boost we need as we head into the playoff stretch.
by Jumbo on
Oct 9, 2008 8:35 PM PDT
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I believe that Martell's game and personality are much like Brandon's.
That is to say that I compare the Martell of today to Brandon as an underclassman at UW.
And I’ve followed both of them since the beginning of their high school careers.
Some of you know that I coach football and wrestling at a rival school to both in Seattle. Martell and Brandon are both unusually bright and they are each from strong, supportive and involved families. I think that while Brandon is a bit more outgoing (are showed far less athletic promise as a high schooler) , they were very similar until one (Mama) chose college and the other didn’t. I believe that the straight path to dollars retarded Martell’s game and personal development. It exposed him the the glare of fan fickledom in a way Brandon avioded and that colors the way each is perceived now.
I was looking forward to seeing if Martell matured this season as Brandon did in his Senior year at the UW, if so, my hypothesis would be proved out and our search for the perfect SF compliment to the big one (Oden) would be over. I still am.
Now I hope his absence changes the perceived lack of value caused, in my opinion, by his unflashy game and understated of court comportment.
Get well soon Martell.
*I will quickly add that, correctly or not, words like “pinky toe” and “stress fracture” don’t cause a giant sucking sound inside me the way “knee” does. That contributes to my more temperate reaction as well.
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by Ojala John on
Oct 9, 2008 8:43 PM PDT
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The numbness is creeping into my bones
I’m seriously desensitized to the violence … even when Rudy went down last night I just sort of rolled my eyes and said "of course, why not a sprained ankle,’ then he jumped up a few seconds later with barely a limp and I figured we were probably OK.
I really think Martell’s absence is kind of a stealth loss, because his role this year was not to fill it up, but to act like a safety valve (playing good perimeter D, and hitting the open jumper to take pressure off of Greg).
Travis’ limitations in the starting unit are only going to magnify the loss … sometimes you never know what you have until it’s lost.
by nikolokolus on
Oct 9, 2008 8:45 PM PDT
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i think you're wrong
People do love Martell. Just look at your poll resutls.
by ItsMrHarris2u on
Oct 9, 2008 8:46 PM PDT
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Ben is an agitator.
Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16
by amlmart1 on
Oct 9, 2008 9:43 PM PDT
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an alarmist agitator, perhaps?
but seriously:
the poll results show me that 40 percent acknowledge that he’s not loved… this is a diehard blazers fans site and 2/5 have doubts on that question?
if i posed a similar question about any of our other top 8 guys we would see 85 to 90 percent “love” ratings (98+ for a bunch of them).
and these comments seem to prove my point that people are handling this completely differently than brandon, greg, rudy, etc.
not to mention the media coverage has been completely different. defcon for brandon, deaf for martell.
honor terry porter
by Ben. on
Oct 9, 2008 10:00 PM PDT
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I used "agitator" in a good sense. Well, 60% Martel´s lovers is not exactly "Nobody Loves Martell"
People are handling this almost the same than they could Blake, Sergio, Batum, Outlaw, Frye or Diogu, half the team. But obviously you knew this when you wrote your post. A cold approach to this matter could be like a night walk in a dead marsh. So you put it in the middle of a Caribbean beach and blow a hurricane, you meat of journalist (hope you got used to my Spanish expressions). Great work, I mean.
Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16
by amlmart1 on
Oct 10, 2008 4:17 AM PDT
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+ it's a "stress" fracture...
it’s not a knee, but a foot. AND the dreaded words “micro scope” “autho-scopic” wern’t used. (funny becuase I think they used them(the scopes)), there’s a expected date of return, it wasn’t like the other ones where we were kept in suspense for a whole day, but looking back at my imediate reaction, “play through it” “weanie” I think it was, you are right, I shruged it off like it was just the pre-season, and forgot about the “timming” of this injury.
I’m upset, but I’ve never doubted martells future with the team, so I guess I didn’t see that much reason to panic.
AND. well…. martell isn’t brandon. that sucks to say, but. he’s not. :(
I wish he was hearlded as “as important” as brandon (that’s alot of "as"), but it takes time for the sun to be seen by all, I suppose this will be the same. :)
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by faith on
Oct 10, 2008 4:28 AM PDT
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timing? timming? timing. time-ing.
"You just WATCHED history No need to study it! You LIVED it."
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by faith on
Oct 10, 2008 4:31 AM PDT
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I'd worry more about a foot injury than a knee.
Injuries to the feet can be the most debilitating of all. You can strengthen a knee. It’s pretty hard to strengthen a foot.
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by timg56 on
Oct 10, 2008 8:43 AM PDT
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Case in point...
Bill Walton. His injuries were foot injuries. Foot injuries BAD…VERY BAD!!!
Luckily, orthopedic surgery has progressed light years since the 1970s. Marty will be back lighting up Utah on 12/27. I wish him all the best and hope he has a speedy recovery. He’s been one of my favorite Blazers…sort of like Max, the dog from ‘How the Grinch Stole Christmas’ (the cartoon, not the abortion of a live action movie).
I look at it this way – the Blazers are purging all of the bad-injury juju now so they’ll be healthy for their playoff run in the spring.
by DonkeyShins on
Oct 10, 2008 11:24 AM PDT
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I think
If you had “What are you talking about, I love Martell!” as the first option you would have gotten different poll results. When it’s buried at the bottom some people choose without reading that far.
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by OURVYDAS on
Oct 10, 2008 12:22 PM PDT
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Coming into this season,
I was feeling that Martell was the one player outside of the big three that was going to make the biggest difference for us in the win and loss columns.
Lets get real, everyone of our big three demands a double team. Martell was gonna be the guy drifting out getting the pass and draining the three. A guy who wasn’t gonna get burned on D every-time, at least making the other SF work for his buckets. Who’s gonna play that role now? I hope someone steps up.
by lethaldose on
Oct 9, 2008 9:22 PM PDT
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I didn't comment
because I was numb. I was still on a high from Tuesday’s game and then this. I still have my doubts about Martell – last night when Rice said he was “playing the best basketball of his career” I thought ??? training camp & one pre-season game? He’s been so streaky that I just don’t know what to expect from him. I’m sorry he’s down but he’s not taking the season down with him.
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by jorga on
Oct 9, 2008 9:36 PM PDT
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Martell
it looks like he and Rudy have pretty great chemistry. Rudy’s passes on Tuesday seemed to inspire Martell to get moving. So I am pretty bummed that we won’t get to see them together until 2009.
by Section323 on
Oct 9, 2008 9:54 PM PDT
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People will love him a lot more when Trout starts jacking up shots and reducing the efficiency of our starting five. Looks like the LaFrentz expiring contract + insurance money may be pretty useful to pick up a free agent SF in the meantime.
by BlazersPro on
Oct 9, 2008 10:05 PM PDT
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I'm getting pretty numb to it all...
…much like Jorga maybe, though mostly I’m getting numb to the constant run of injuries.
Blake (starting PG)
Webster (starting SF)
Frye (main rotation guy)
LaFrentz (12 man but good guy who adds depth)
and now potentially Fernandez (certainly rotation guy and potential starter)
I might not feel much if one of the Big Three went down at this point. It’s not like I feel the season’s a loss before it starts or anything but with the guys dropping like flies little would surprise me anymore.
by Shawno on
Oct 9, 2008 10:19 PM PDT
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Absolutely
I chalk it up to “injury fatigue”. I reckon if Trout went down everybody would just shrug their shoulders, mumble something about it being his turn and ask “who’s next?”.
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by LaughingJon on
Oct 10, 2008 8:18 AM PDT
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No one freaked out cuz...
we’re so much deeper this year. Portland fans seem to, for the most part, love all of our Blazers. Also, when the news came down about the injury no one knew for sure how severe it was going to be. Troutlaw is definitely a fan favorite and we all expected him to just step in and kill, but after last night its clear the we need Marty. GET WELL SOON MARTY!!!!!!
by EazyRider on
Oct 9, 2008 10:58 PM PDT
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People don't love him as much because he's a big TEASE
Teases us with 24 point quarters. Teases us with a solid consistent start to the year like last season. Teases us with his NBA-ready body out of high school. We want to love, but we don’t wanna get hurt.
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by blzrfan on
Oct 9, 2008 11:07 PM PDT
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Good points
I was a big supporter of Martell before the begining of last season, and it looks like he has arrived. No need to argue when everyone is in agreement, right? Here’s why I think we paid attention to the others but not poor Marty:
Roy is the heart
Greg is the muscle
Rudy is the looks
Channing is the cheerleader
Martell is the touch, but he hasn’t touched us yet. Not in the way that we want him to. He hasn’t delivered on that yet. But when he does, none of us will ever forget it.
Take care Marty, and don’t be touchin me like that… in public.
Sergio will explode this year as the best NBA player ever and will take revenge impregnating all Portland and Blazers with the "chocolate" word.
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by einman77 on
Oct 9, 2008 11:07 PM PDT
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As long as it isn't a bad touch
They told us about that in grade school.
(OK, they didn’t…I was in grade school too long ago – back when everyone trusted Catholic priests and ice cream men)
by DonkeyShins on
Oct 10, 2008 11:26 AM PDT
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Speaking Only for myself...
I was looking forward to seeing how Martell played this year. With James Jones gone and the new inside presence of Oden demanding double maybe triple teams, I thought Martell could have a great season. Plus, it’s about time for him. I’m very disapointed that he became injured. Get better A.S.A.P. Webster!
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by Krang on
Oct 9, 2008 11:16 PM PDT
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Webster will be missed.
I’m just desensitized to injury. I saw Rudy get hurt last night and I just stared at the tv… not sure if it was real.
Too many hurt players. Ugh.
by Cablinasian on
Oct 9, 2008 11:45 PM PDT
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Look at what The Rockets
Have been trough in the last few years,we aint the only team whose whose guys get hurt.
by southern oregon on
Oct 10, 2008 1:25 PM PDT
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Martell
Has always been my favourite Blazer….I have been going to games for four years and still my favourtie moment is when he went crazy the the third quarter…..culminating it with a nice big kiss to the crowd….
by mschofer on
Oct 10, 2008 12:21 AM PDT
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I wish he would use his time out to further improve his ball handling skills especially with his off-hand
As soon as he can put some pressure on the foot, but can’t start jumping or running full court yet. That would help him in at least three ways: Transition (he is very fast straight down the court), driving to the rim, and creating separation while in motion for his jump shots.
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by Norsktroll on
Oct 10, 2008 6:10 AM PDT
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What he brings to the table is exactly what we need
Shooting, improved defense, and it looked like from the first game finally moving without the ball. I really think this is going to be a bigger blow to the team than some people think. I really hope I am wrong but I think without someone to spread the floor (who doesn’t need the ball in their hand, i.e. Travis, Rudy, Roy) we may struggle a bit.
"From Bill Walton to Brandon Roy, we wanna know it all
From Clyde Drexler to Greg Oden, from the basket to the ball
Every move they make is covered, somebody make the call
The shot clock's always running at Blazers Edge"
by blazermaniac32 on
Oct 10, 2008 7:35 AM PDT
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Big Void
It only took one pre-season game to see how thin we are without Martell. The best alternative would be Rudy, but we need him to be the Brandon of the second unit. Travis doesn’t do well when he’s the 4th option on the 1st unit and no one else can spread the floor to keep the opponent from packing it in. Get well soon Martell— I admire how you have faced your deficiencies and worked like the devil to get better…and what a sweet stroke!
by monsoon on
Oct 10, 2008 10:09 AM PDT
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I love him
Last night, while making sweet monkey love to my wife, I called her “Martell.” When she asked who that was, I said it was a black girl from High School Musical. I don’t know if she can handle the truth.
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by tominhawaii on
Oct 10, 2008 10:20 AM PDT
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That still leaves you with options: 1) You didn't understand me 2) I love cognac 3) I love another woman



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by Norsktroll on
Oct 10, 2008 10:32 AM PDT
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OK...then how about
We (somehow) get a get well card for Marty and send it to the Blazers front office – from all of us at BlazersEdge.
Actually, we should do the same for Blake, Frye, RLEC while we’re at it. I’m counting Roy as ‘well’ as well as Oden at this point. Same with Rudy – he’s tough.
by DonkeyShins on
Oct 10, 2008 11:29 AM PDT
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gavin dawson somehow hacked this and voted 44 times (for the soft entry)
by 50backflips on
Oct 10, 2008 12:07 PM PDT
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i am just jaded from injuries
If his had been first, i would have freaked out. But at this point, the wheels just feel like they are coming off the bus
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on
Oct 10, 2008 2:11 PM PDT
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forgot to include
Look I like martell a lot more than Travis or Rudy,
1) He provides much more to our team, when Travis or Rudy is in the game they try to do there own thing, martell understands the flow of the game better than both of them put together. (I think this is a factor of both of them playing as stars, while Martell has adapted his game to be part of a team, and the others are used to having the team adapt).
2) Defensively he is our starter for a reason, look to see Roy’s production drop when he is forced to be the defender. Martell doesn’t light up the scoreboard like you would expect him to because he (like almost every other player in the league) can’t pull a Koke and be effective on the perimeter on both sides of the court. Roy isn’t, so we can’t expect Martell to be.
3) He is effective in a set-up offense. He could be more effective in a run and gun, but most athletic SF’s would be more effective in fast-breaks, however few athletic SF’s are able to go between roles as much as we need it, and Martell is able to. He knows what shots Roy can make that he can’t, he knows the shots he can make that nobody else on the team is able to, he knows at what point in a LA’s post up move to give him the ball, and he knows when to just take the ball inside and dunk on someone. In our offense, we need a brainy SF, and Martell is that guy.
4) He’s soft?? What SF in the league would you define as being not soft? They are perimeter players, their job is to fall down after getting hit and make free throws. Three’s are not doing their job if they are playing big (This doesn’t count superstar’s).
5) He didn’t live up to expectations? What kind of junk is that? We traded down, away from Deron Williams and Chris Paul. That was management’s fault. They didn’t see a distinct difference between the first 5 players, there clearly was, but we drafted him. The phrase “live up to expectations” seems like we are implying that he lied to us in some way, or that he could have become better if he had worked harder. If he didn’t live up to our expectations, our expectations were clearly wrong. Potential does not entail any sort of guarantee, just because we clearly made a decision that in hind sight was wrong, doesn’t mean that he should be disliked because of it. He is a basketball player that has adapted to fit a role that he was not drafted for, he was drafted for his shooting and athleticism, both of which he has developed to a great level (He was 37th in the league in 3 pointers made, with a lot of the players ahead of him, known for only shooting 3’s), and his role on this team is as a Defender.
6) Look, I understand that he has some issues in consistency and calling for the ball, but as a good perimeter defender, what he does is not going to show up very well on the stat sheet, and I definitely did not realize that people were not on the Webster’s side. He’s a great player that works hard to fit in our offense, and lightens the workload for Brandon and Steve, and allows them to spend their energy on the offensive side of the floor. Neither Travis nor Rudy will be able to provide this for our team.
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on
Oct 10, 2008 2:49 PM PDT
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VVAAAAT ?
as Sabas would say. I’ve been pumping 3M
here for three years and this will still be his
breakout year. Patience.
It's GO time !
by walkoff41 on
Oct 10, 2008 3:45 PM PDT
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