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Blazersedge 2008-09 NBA Season Preview: Pacers and Cavaliers

INDIANA PACERS

Record:  36-46, 3rd in Central Division, 9th in Eastern Conference

 

Statistical Comparisons

 

Notable:

26th in opponent scoring (105.4 ppg)

27th in turnovers

5th (tie) in opponent turnovers

 

Others:

7th in the league in scoring (104.0 ppg)

18th  in ppg differential (-1.4 ppg)

24th in field goal % 

9th in opponent field goal %

8th in three-point % 

17th in free throw attempts per game

12th in free throw percentage

7th in assists

11th in steals

9th in blocks

Poor offensive rebounding team

Good defensive rebounding team

 

Movement

 

Significant Additions:  T.J. Ford, Rasho Nesterovic, Jarrett Jack, Maceo Baston, Brandon Rush (R), Roy Hibbert (R)

Significant Subtractions:  Jermaine O’Neal, Ike Diogu, Flip Murray, Kareem Rush

 

Roster

 

Coach:  Jim O’Brien

 

Key Players

PG: T.J. Ford, Jamaal Tinsley, Jarrett Jack

SG:  Mike Dunleavy, Brandon Rush, Marquis Daniels

SF:  Danny Granger, Shawne Williams

PF:  Troy Murphy, Maceo Baston

C:  Jeff Foster, Rasho Nesterovic, Roy Hibbert

 

Comments

 

 I’ve been trying to find a way to summarize how I feel about the Pacers’ chances now that they’ve made the Big Move and bid adieu to long-time (and oft-injured) star Jermaine O’Neal in favor of lightning quick (and oft-injured) T.J. Ford and a cast of mediocre players.  In the end, I had to fall back on my Dr. Seuss.

 

I do not like them, Pacer fans

I do not like them to a man

 

I do not like them in a box

I would not trade them for old socks

 

I do not like that center corps

They’ll struggle hard but never score

 

Would you like Dunleavy then?

 

Why no, indeed, I’ll say again

I would not like to ever trust

A guy so recently a bust

 

Then why not Granger, surely he

Appeals to such a man as thee

 

I do not like him here or there

Though scoring’s good and shooting’s fair

I would not give contract extensions

To guys who lack defense dimensions

 

But T.J. Ford you’d surely take?

He’s awful fast when on the break

 

I would not take him on my team

I would not take him with ice cream

He’ll run the break, then pull up lame

And sit in street clothes, such a shame

And let me see you try to run

With Jarrett Jack…Good luck!  Have fun!

 

I do not like this team you’ve hatched

They’re paper stars, but quite mismatched

They lack a rudder and an anchor

Their back-up point guard’s quite a canker

Their rookies might be overrated

Their power forward’s stats have faded

 

But would you, could you in a pinch?

You won’t enjoy them just an inch?

 

I would not, could not, not an inch

I’ll not back down, I will not flinch

It will not bring me joy a bit

To see these players play like…harrumph, well, that’s enough of that.

 

OK, maybe it’s not that bad.  But you’ve got to admit the Pacers are making the classic run at mediocrity, and those who shoot at mediocre usually end up short of it.  It’s a team of good players bereft of great ones, a team that’s already maxed its point potential but didn’t do anything to help its (self-)crippling defense.  They should still rebound well.  That’ll keep you in a lot of games.  Somewhere in the high 30’s or low 40’s would be about as many wins as you’d expect if things go right.  If things go wrong…ugh.  Jim O’Brien coaching this team may be their single most dependable asset.  He’s good.

 

Read more about the Pacers at one of my personal favorites, IndyCornrows.com

 

CLEVELAND CAVALIERS

Record:  45-37, 2nd in Central Division, 4th in Eastern Conference

 

Statistical Comparisons

 

Notable:

28th in field goal % 

28th in free throw percentage

 

Others:

24th in the league in scoring (96.4 ppg)

9th in opponent scoring (96.7 ppg)

16th  in ppg differential (-0.4 ppg)

10th in opponent field goal %

16th in three-point % 

15th in free throw attempts per game

25th in assists

18th in steals

7th in blocks

10th in turnovers

24th (tie) in opponent turnovers

Superb offensive rebounding team

Very Good defensive rebounding team

 

Movement

 

Significant Additions:  Mo Williams, Tarence Kinsey, J.J. Hickson (R)

Significant Subtractions:  Joe Smith, Damon Jones, Devin Brown

 

Roster

 

Coach:  Mike Brown

 

Key Players

PG:  Mo Williams, Daniel Gibson, Eric Snow

SG:  Sasha Pavlovic, Delonte West

SF:  Lebron James, Wally Szczerbiak

PF:  Ben Wallace, Anderson Varejao, J.J. Hickson

C:  Zydrunas Ilgauskas

 

Comments

 

When I lived in Minnesota I used to see people get their cars stuck in snow all of the time.  The routine was almost always the same.  Gun the motor until the tires spin.  Uh oh, now the snow is frozen into ice under the wheels.  OK, use your gloves to dig some of it out.  Now hit the gas again.  No good.  Maybe if I stick a board under the tires.  Ooof!  That’s hard to get in there.  Wait…I only have one board?  Oh well, maybe it’ll get one tire out.  OK, Jimmy…hold this board there while I gun it.  Hey!  That side moved a little!  Did you see that Jimmy!  Jimmy?  What do you mean “My hand?”  What about your hand?  Hmmm…go knock on that person’s door and see if they have any salt or ice melt.  Yes, yes, you can ask for a band-aid too.  Hey Jimmy!  Tell them cat litter might work too!

 

This is what the Cavs feel like to me.  Mo Williams is the latest board under the tire and Ben Wallace is the neighbor’s cat litter.  Maybe these will be the moves that get them unstuck.  Or maybe not.

 

It goes without saying that any team with LeBron James on it is going to be good.  But that’s the thing.  With the guy who’s going to end up the best player of his generation, likely without an argument, you don’t want good.  You want back in the Finals.  I don’t see Mo Williams and Ben Wallace getting them there any better than Drew Gooden and Larry Hughes did last year.  Whatever Williams gives you on offense Wallace will take away.  Reverse it on the other end.  Wallace has never been the same player since he left Detroit and you know Chicago wanted him to be their conference championship piece.  Mo Williams can score and he can pass, but the equation didn’t add up for him in Milwaukee and they needed a point guard.  It just doesn’t feel right.

 

The one thing the Cavs need to do this year to excel is open up the offense.  That’s part of why they acquired Williams and they need to set the engines full speed ahead.  They have the defense and rebounding to succeed.  They need to become more than a “LeBron scores again in the halfcourt” team.  Easy buckets, easy points, try to get around +4 for that point differential instead of breaking even.  That should get them into the playoffs with a nice seed again.  After that the real test comes.  I don’t see them getting past the teams ahead of them, but then maybe LeBron will prove that prediction stupid.

 

Read more about the Cavs at FeartheSword.com

 

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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Great Dr. Seuss imitation

Two remarks: I would take Granger any day for this team. In fact, I want him to be the one of the guys we make a big offer for next year just to try and lure him away (which I know is not terribly likely now that they have cap space). His shooting percentage is outstanding from almost anywhere on the floor, and his defense is described as solid by scouts. His age would fit perfectly into our group. He is similar in size to Travis, so he can’t defend very quick forwards, but you can’t tell me he wouldn’t be an upgrade over him. He is an all-around good guy who works very hard in training, and the only quirky trait I know of is admiring super heros and fear of bats (so better keep him away from Batman) as described in a story about an ambassador visit on behalf of the NBA to Indonesia.

Funny story: He said he loves Batman and The Dark Knight is now his favorite movie. But during a dinner in Surabaya, he jumps scared when a little bat entered the room!!!! Everybody laughs! Granger said that he fears bats the most.

The difference between T.J. Ford and J. O’Neal (apart from the obvious) is that Ford is susceptible to be injured in freak accidents due to his playing style and spinal chord condition, and O’Neal’s injuries are due to wear and tear. You don’t see Ford icing his spine after workouts, because on 999 out of 1000 days it’s not causing a problem. On the one day however it could end his career.

Odenied: If you're given lemmings—make lemming-ade (Bow4Meow)

by Norsktroll on Oct 6, 2008 2:01 AM PDT reply actions  

I like Granger too

and I’m actually impressed with how Dunleavy has continued to develop. But that doesn’t make quite as nice of a bedtime story…

—Dave

by Dave on Oct 6, 2008 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dave...

you speak like a parent (and quite well!!). How’s baby point guard these days anyhow? My boy just turned 3 and I’m almost certain I could recite Green Eggs and Ham. We’ve got a mountain of children’s books in the house, but so many of them are garbage…written solely for a child. The classics are written for a child, yet enjoyable by an adult too (enjoyable to read to a child that is…I don’t often pick up Goodnight Moon on my own time). Dr. Seuss stuff is just great.

But I’ve wandered off track.

I remember Bird’s comment on draft day that sounded like it came from Pritchard…build with character, build a team, etc. Indiana will be a good team to put a mark on the calendar about 3 years from now, after consecutive lotteries, and see how they have done with that effort. Otherwise, set phasers to “ignore”.

superfluous

by lukeyhere on Oct 6, 2008 7:17 AM PDT reply actions  

How can you not like "Goodnight Moon"?

It’s the snuggliest beddy-bye story of all time. Try reading that book about Katy the caboose 30 times in a row if you want to hate a kid’s book!

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics

by MiledAnimal on Oct 6, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Ben Wallace is the neighbor’s cat litter"

"They are all human. There's nobody I'm really scared of, or worried about playing against." -- Bayless

http://www.myspace.com/y5k

by Y5k on Oct 6, 2008 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Am I missing something?

  Why is it so popular to not believe in the Cavs? 07’ = NBA Finals, beating one of the best teams in the NBA in Detroit. Then 08’ = Arguably being the 2nd best them in the playoff taking Boston to a tough game 7, only to lose in the final mins. I challenge people to look at each year the Cavs have made it to the playoffs. EVERY single year they have OVER achieved. The fact that people don’t want to realize is, Cleveland is not built for the regular season and they ALWAYS play their best ball in the playoffs. But everyone want the Cavs to rip off a 60+ win season and watch LBJ average 37ppg.

Last year everyone knew what they were lacking. Another scorer. And they got the best one avoidable. I don’t see the reason for the jokes? I’m not even a Cavs fan, but I guess it’s just popular to complain about them— despite what they do every April-June.

by BradleyKeith on Oct 6, 2008 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

there should be at least 5 recs for that poem.

superb.

although poor JJ1 is sitting in a corner of a locker room crying himself to sleep right now.

BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON

by Ben Golliver on Oct 6, 2008 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Not - really

Because he also knows he could easily keep down T.J. Ford.

Odenied: If you're given lemmings—make lemming-ade (Bow4Meow)

by Norsktroll on Oct 7, 2008 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know....

past of the reason the Pacers were lacking in the front court last season was….

They had Ike coming off the bench!

The dude has got to step it up for us. Seriously.

G_dubs,
President of The Under-Sized Under-Achiever Power Forwards Haters Club.

the Spanish contributors on this board are hellah cool

by G_dubs on Oct 7, 2008 4:48 AM PDT reply actions  

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