You can only keep two...

by myemic23 on Oct 4, 2008 7:38 PM PDT Comment 47 comments

As much as I love debating our 3rd string pg situation, I found myself pondering something different today. So, I figured I would throw it out for the community to discuss. We all know the blazers big 3 consists of Roy, Aldridge, and Oden. So imagine that you are KP and for some crazy reason, you had to choose two of those players to keep. Who would you let loose?

Option 1: Let Roy go…

Roy has been our best player in his first two seasons, but he has shaky knees and a (so far) incurable heal injury. In the nba, good big men are a rare asset and we have two of them that can’t be let go. The addition of Rudy and Roy will cover up the scoring and leadership void that letting Roy go would leave…

Option 2: Let Oden go…

Oden has appeared to be injury prone in his early basketball career and we have a pretty dang good center in Joel Pryzbilla. Oden has also been underwhelming everytime us PTB fans have seen him play for our team. Letting Oden go will open up minutes for Frye and possibly even give Steven Hill an opportunity…

Option 3: Let Aldridge go…

Aldridge has had a very nice start to his young career, but he tends to be more of a perimeter-oriented pf, which is replaceable. Frye is sort of a poor man’s Aldridge with just as sweet of a shooting touch and Outlaw also played well at the pf spot last season. They should be able to fill the scoring void that Aldridge would leave…

Now, I know everyone will want to say don't let any of them go! But that defeats the purpose. Personally, I can't make up my mind...

Poll

You can only keep 2 of our big 3, who do you keep?

Aldridge and Oden

40 votes

Oden and Roy

83 votes

Roy and Aldridge

63 votes

186 votes | Poll has closed

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All three!

Paul Allen can afford it, we love all three of them, so keep all three!

I know you’re looking for something deeper, but I’m sticking with my answer. It would be like picking my favorite child.

by Timmay! on Oct 4, 2008 7:49 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs

+1

Rec

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by LaMarvelous on Oct 4, 2008 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I fail to see the point of this post...

So imagine that you are KP and for some crazy reason, you had to choose two of those players to keep. Who would you let loose?

I’m NOT KP and there’s no crazy reason the Blazers have to make that choice — and particularly goofy to ask it before GOd has played his first NBA game!

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by timbo on Oct 4, 2008 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Thank you!

This is just a stupid post. Please have it removed ASAP!!

Blazers NBA champs 2010-2011!

by The Earl of Dunk on Oct 5, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha ha ha

This stuff is funny. For me it would be more interesting to know what is the crazy reason, that KP would have to choose 2 out of big three. Yeah let me ask you myemic23, whats the crazy reason you posted this? Ha ha ha.

by RipCity on Oct 5, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think he is trying to take blazeredgers´ minds off Sergio´s trade posts ;-)

myemic is a G

Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16

by amlmart1 on Oct 5, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok

Imagine that Mr. Allen has a life changing experience, and decides to sell the team so he can move to a Buddhist community. The team is quickly bought by whoever owns the suns and because he is a stickler with money, he only wants to keep two of the big 3 for salary cap issues. There is your premise.

Why did I post it? Because it isn’t some silly trade scenario or Sergio slandering, I thought it might be a nice change of pace and something that might get our attention back to the players that truly matter.

What is the point? Blazersaurus nailed it as far as what I was thinking. For those who gave it an honest minute or two of thought, you quickly realize just how devastating losing one of these guys would be. After you ponder it and possibly even make a decision, you quickly appreciate the fact that this will not ever happen and how blessed we are as fans to have an owner that will spend 100mil+ per year and do anything in his power to keep these 3 guys together. Many other teams are not so blessed. With a different owner in charge of our team, this could very well become an issue when it comes time to resign our guys. Lets just thank our stars that PA makes this a moot issue….

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Oct 5, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

I didn’t say that this post was bad or anything. But I got to say that the way you tried to bring appreciation for our owner is as equal in weirdness as Paul Allen becoming a Buddhist. As long as he doesn’t convert to be a mu slim because with his money he might start to support terrorists, everything is fine.

by RipCity on Oct 5, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow.

Muslims are not the only terrorists – not by a long shot. Only a minuscule percentage of Muslims are terrorists. The 9/11 attackers were from an extremist sect, and the media have capitalized on that stereotype.

Also: According to at least one study, fewer Muslims condone terrorist attacks than Americans.

Just as most Christians are ashamed of the maniacal Westboro Baptists, most Muslims are ashamed of the terrorists that have given their religion a bad name in the western world. PLEASE do a little bit of research before making ill-advised remarks about a generally peaceful religion of 1.5 billion.

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by rockingharder on Oct 5, 2008 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

no man

they want to take over the world. The attacks on 9/11 demonstrate that. And I know that some Muslims are good, but if there would be no support for the terrorists then there would not be any problems in the middle east. You dig.

by RipCity on Oct 5, 2008 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

why is there terrorism?

because terrorists think that they serve their god by killing people that oppose their beliefs, and their beliefs come from Koran. I know that Christians have stuff they are not proud of but at least they understand that not by killing people you will convert them. I know that there is good people between all religions, but i think you dont get that even in America there are Muslim sects that teach hatred for this country. Why? Because they think we all are infidels. Maybe they are right that we are like that if we let all this stuff happen in our country. I don’t want change I want stability.

by RipCity on Oct 5, 2008 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

I wont get it started here cuz this is a sports site. And it does not matter what I think about it and i wont post it.

by RipCity on Oct 5, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I voted roy and aldridge out of pure loyalty.

But it is a really tough question if faced with “having” too only keep 2.

I was almost ready to throw roy under the bus, then I thought better of it.

conflicting for sure.

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by faith on Oct 4, 2008 7:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Is this bad?

If it were only possible to keep two, then you have to look at who else we have on the team. Backups for Oden: Przybilla
Backups for Aldridge: Frye, Diogu
Backups for Roy: Fernandez and Bayless

I have to vote to keep Oden and Aldridge, even though Roy may be better than both.

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by T Darkstar on Oct 4, 2008 8:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

My thoughts exactly

"Great Oden's raven!" - Ron Burgandy

by danevan on Oct 4, 2008 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think you have to put Outlaw as a back up for LMA

and I don’t think I’d put Bayless down just yet as a backup for Roy. Fernandez has shown talent on elite levels so he’s fine in that regard.

I like the thought process here and I think it would be harder to replace our big guys that it would be to get another good swingman/shooting guard type. I want to keep Aldridge because he’s also been the least injury prone of the Big 3.

Assuming this isn’t just a “we let the contract expire” hypothetical, I think we could also get the most value for Roy on a trade. As the only all-star (yet) of the Big 3, I think we could get the most in return for having to give him up.

Devil's Advocate or just argumentative?

by Magnum on Oct 4, 2008 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oden and Roy

Its not even a question in my mind. Oden has much to prove, but his ceiling is so much higher than Aldridge’s.

None of them are going anywhere though, thankfully.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Oct 4, 2008 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, the choice here is undoubtedly Greg Oden and Brandon Roy.

For Oden, it’s obviously a matter of potential over production at this moment.

However, there’s no denyin’ that Oden’s ceiling — which I still contend is just that of Patrick Ewing rather than truly transcendent pivotmen like Hakeem Olajuwon and David Robinson — trumps that of LaMarcus Aldridge, who’s barely a top-ten power forward in the NBA (i.e., Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Dirk Nowitzki, Amare Stoudemire, Chris Bosh, Pau Gasol, Elton Brand, Carlos Boozer, David West, & Aldridge).

by AK1984 on Oct 4, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And how do you justify Roy?

Just curious to see your thoughts. Always liked reading your posts at Sonicscentral.com, even if i didn’t always agree….

by moflow on Oct 4, 2008 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Y'know, that's a tough one.

I’ll admit that some of it is based on my favorable bias toward Brandon Roy, though.

Objectively, however, Roy deserves credit for being an overall well-balanced shooting guard — despite his average defense and mediocre three-point shooting — with the ability to be a focused team leader and floor general, which are all-important qualites. It’s those factors that’ve caused me rank Roy one to two notches above high-profile scorers throughout the league (e.g., Richard Hamilton, Stephen Jackson, Michael Redd, Jason Richardson, Kevin Martin, Mike Miller, Ray Allen, Peja Stojakovic, Jamal Crawford, et al.) and undersized combo guards (e.g., Allen Iverson, Ben Gordon, Jason Terry, et al.), as well as a smidge ahead of two premier talents who’ve never put it all together (i.e., Tracy McGrady & Vince Carter).

Anyhow, after Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, and the vastly underrated Manu Ginobili, there’s a trio of versatile, multifacted shooting guards (i.e., Roy, Joe Johnson, and Andre Iguodala) who compose the next tier of performers. Yet, among those three, it’s tough to pick one over the others — although each has their own individual strength, which includes Roy’s high assists-to-turnover ratio, Johnson’s solid long-distance shooting, and Iguodala’s aggressive defense — which is a testament to their respective abilities. Hell, If push came to shove, I wouldn’t pass on anyone of ‘em; instead, I’d like to see how they’d play alongside one another at the 1, 2, & 3.

by AK1984 on Oct 4, 2008 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is tough.

My man love for Aldridge makes me keep him, but out of Roy and Oden I’m not sure. I think Roy would have to go. As fantastic as Roy is he is more replaceable than an Oden who gets near his ceiling. Plus having Rudy now I don’t even fear a Roy injury near as much as I did last year. Rudy is the man. Don’t get me long I love Roy but I think he is more replaceable for us at this point.

Realistically it would be Oden and Roy to keep but I’m too big a fan of Aldridge to let him go.

by Bskey on Oct 4, 2008 8:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Well said and I agree totally

But I absolutely refuse to vote due to the fact that the whole premise is ludicrous and I just will not play along. The very idea makes me grumpy. I love the fact that with this team I can have my cake and eat it too. Look at all of the lovely frosting! Sweeeet!!

by LaMarvelous on Oct 4, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I picked letting go of Aldridge, even though I think he’s going to be the best. I think I chose thusly because I just love me some Frye, and he really lit it up at the end of last season. Oden is just going to be a monster if he can stay healthy and Roy is going to be undefeatable if he stays healthy and Aldridge is also probably going to be a HOFer. Man, Blazers rock!! Bayless!!! Effing RUDY!!! AND TROUT OH MAN!!!!

by 50backflips on Oct 4, 2008 9:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm going to apply Vulcan logic here

It’s too early to be thinking about this stuff.

by Corvid on Oct 4, 2008 9:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

This post is like the hypothetical question

If you had to sleep Rosie O’donnell or Roseanne Barr who would you choose? No right answer, painful decision. Not pleasant or worth while to think about.

by oden is GOD OF WAR on Oct 4, 2008 10:00 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

No, no, no

you have it all wrong, it’s more like…..

A lunatic has a gun to your head, you have to pick TWO of the following to sleep with

Rosie O’Donnell
Roseanne Barr
Oprah (you don’t get any of her money)

Devil's Advocate or just argumentative?

by Magnum on Oct 4, 2008 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

For starters, I'd bed ...

Oprah first in that situation.

Afterward, it’d be a very, very tough call. Instinctively, my gut — which, by the way, is the only thing I’m thinking with here — would be Rosie O’Donnell over Roseanne Barr, ‘cause I know that she also wouldn’t enjoy it.

by AK1984 on Oct 4, 2008 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I should have thought of someone other than Oprah

plenty of men are attracted to powerful women

What about a female version of John Goodman?

Devil's Advocate or just argumentative?

by Magnum on Oct 4, 2008 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You mean Roseanne? :)

Anyway, I picked Oprah first out of those three based on solely on her physical appearance.

She’s at least so-so in the looks department, which is more than can be said for the others.

by AK1984 on Oct 5, 2008 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

here try this...

janett reno, madiline albright, or, the old squeeky lady off of polterguist…….

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by faith on Oct 5, 2008 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The nightmares continue...

I have got to quit reading this post it is making me nauseous. :)

by LaMarvelous on Oct 5, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow

looks like you like extremes. You would probably enjoy it in real life if you had a chance. Crazy but I would never want anybody putting a gun to my head, maybe Im the only one like this.

by RipCity on Oct 5, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think you can win a ring with Pryzbizzle at center

Just like the Celtics won with Perk at center.

I can’t see us winning a ring with Outlaw at PF or Rudy at SG. Sorry…I just can’t.

Roy + LMA, for now. I love Oden, but that’s how it is right now.

Now if you had to TRADE one of the big 3, that’s different. But if you just flat out lose one guy, it has to be Oden at this point, as hard as that is to say.

He who laughs last thinks slowest.

by prezofdeath on Oct 5, 2008 12:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

However, let me pull a John Kerry on this one and flip flop a bit.

Channing at PF might work if Oden is all that he’s supposedly gonna’ be. Channing complements Oden quite well, so that might work.

I really like LMA though, heck, I like all of them. I just wish we could have this exact team forever.

He who laughs last thinks slowest.

by prezofdeath on Oct 5, 2008 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Talk about impossible choices

There is no right answers and they’re all wrong answers.

Trying to answer this question just magnifies how important each one of these guys is to this team and what incredible futures each of them has. (barring injury of course) Roy is well Roy. Aldridge is about to explode onto the NBA with full force and Oden, the question mark having not yet played an NBA game, has the possibility to be anywhere from above average, to All Star to one of the greats mentioned in the same breath as Russel; Wilt, Bill, the Dream, Moses, Shak-fu, Kareem and so on. But he also even has the actual disernable potential to be THE all time great.

I can go to bed happy in the fact that we don’t actually have to give up any of em.

by Blazersaurus on Oct 5, 2008 1:18 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs

For me

It was all about publicity. Roy and Oden are the faces of the franchise, and letting them go would be foolish. Aldridge is a great player, and has a high ceiling, but it we as a fanbase would be more willing to see Aldridge go than Roy (our All-Star and ROY) or Oden (the Number One Draft Pick (must be capitalized for effect))

by usdblazerfan on Oct 5, 2008 2:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Roy + Oden

First off, this is a horrible, horrible question to make us even have to answer! And second, I’d let Aldridge go simply because of our big 3 I think he IS the one that will leave first. For some unknown reason I always feel like he wants to be somewhere else. I can almost see him bolting to the Lakers to make the bitterest rivalry ever…

by In Walks Rudy on Oct 5, 2008 6:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Bite your tougue...

If LMA ever does leave, and if he gets to go where he wants to, it will be to a Texas team. There is no doubt in my mind that he enjoys being a Blazer but his heart might wander back home after a ring or two. If that day ever comes I will be in mourning for a very long time.

I do agree to your first statement: “this is a horrible, horrible question to make us even have to answer!”.

by LaMarvelous on Oct 5, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good bigs are harder to find

than good smalls. I don’t want to get rid of any of them though.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Oct 5, 2008 8:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Potential

Assuming that everyone reaches somewhat close to their stated potential, I’d have to go with Aldridge and Oden. Rudy and Bayless would be more than enough guard firepower and having two elite big men, one high post and one low, would be unstoppable. That’s how I voted.
But if we’re only going by current status and noting that Rudy, Bayless, and Oden all haven’t played a single game, Roy would get a spot without a second thought. Aldridge’s success vs. Oden’s promise makes it a really hard decsion for the other spot, but I’d bitterly choose Oden. We all saw that the missing piece last year that took us out of playoff contention was another true center or Joel-like player. So even a moderately good career from Oden and Frye stepping up into Aldridge’s role (as it seems he can) could take us to the next level.

by amitp06 on Oct 5, 2008 1:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Roy and LmA

Proven

by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 5, 2008 2:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

no question

i agree with sabonis4ever… roy and aldridge are both all star caliber players, and lma might end up being even better than brandon. i’d say our big three are roy, aldridge and fernandez. i have a terrible sense of foreboding after fan fest the other night. greg looked like a forty old broken man the other night. scared the crap out of me. b-schmoove and big easy are the truth.. rudy and travis will be the cavalry.

by blazersunited on Oct 5, 2008 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

That's just silly.

Oden hasn’t been playing fullcourt 5on5 for more than a couple weeks (if that) after a year of not playing and coming off a major injury. Of course he’s going to look tired and worn down playing like that. Give him a few weeks of playing and you’re going to see the Greg Oden who has been known as a dominate force since middle school.

by Bskey on Oct 5, 2008 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And I agree with both Sabonis4Ever and blazersunited.

Add concerns with Oden’s health and this becomes a no-brainer for me. Keep LMA and Roy.

by TwoDeep on Oct 5, 2008 8:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Roy and Oden

History

good Oden > great Aldridge

by Miles "High" Club on Oct 5, 2008 8:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I refuse to play this game

Dang OP, you ever heard of “be careful what you wish for”, and all that? Sheesh! ;-)

the Spanish contributors on this board are hellah cool

by G_dubs on Oct 5, 2008 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

tough

it was a hard choice…but i chose roy and oden. even tho rudy could fill in for roy if he was out for an extended period of time, i dont think anyone can lead the team the way roy can. even when roy is having an off night the team is still semi functional vs when roy was out due to injury or bereavement. The team seemed a bit lost at times without him. LMA is awesome, but i think I chose to get rid of him bc Frye could be a suitable replacement for him, yet we would have no one who could bring to the table what Oden can (or at least what i think he can).

by Philthyanimal on Oct 5, 2008 10:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs