A Three-Part Prescription for the Blazers
After all of one game Blazer Nation seems to be tilting left and right. I guess I understand with Oden's injury, the Most Hated Team In The Universe TM beating us senseless on opening night, and our revered stars laying an ostrich-sized egg on national TV. But honestly, we've been talking for months about how brutal the early schedule is. You're going to have to expect a little more of this before things get sunny. (They will...just hold on!) To help through this stretch, though, here's a three-part prescription for the Blazers, an inoculation of sorts against the swarm of flu-like bugs that are about to assault us. It won't keep us from getting flattened but it might keep the symptoms from turning fatal.
1. Remember that this is Lamarcus Aldridge's scoring team.
Clearly the Blazers need some inside scoring to go along with their jump-shooters and slashers. Greg Oden is certainly part of the solution, but he's injured and his offense is too raw to be depending on night in and night out. In the blitz of Oden media it's easy to forget that Lamarcus Aldridge is still on this team. Not only that, he's worked for the last couple years on his body, on his moves, and on his scoring touch. You're not knighting a rookie here. This guy has earned it. So give him a bunch of touches and let him work. Don't forget that he can score inside and out either. Set the boy up in the post every now and again. Yes, Brandon Roy is still the heart of the team but Brandon functions best when he doesn't have to carry the scoring all game long. One of the few bright spots to Oden being out is that the team can again establish Lamarcus as the guy on whom Roy can depend.
2. Fix the fast break, please!
The opening game didn't strike me as hard as it did some folks. It looked awful, sure, but it wasn't like you saw a hundred recurring reasons why the Blazers will stink this year. Most of the problems Portland had were either because of the quality of the opponent or because of strange bounces of the ball. Neither will be repeated often. One aspect of the game that amazed (horrified?) me, however, was how badly the Blazers ran the fast break during the few opportunities they had. I am on record saying I have never seen an NBA team run the break worse than last year's Blazer squad. Tuesday night's game didn't exactly inspire confidence that this year's team will be better.
Running the break properly is not that difficult. There are two basic rules. First, the dribbler should not run right down the middle of the court but instead approach the basket at an angle. Second, anyone running with him should be spaced out wide.
The reasons for the dribbler not heading straight down Broadway are simple.
First, coming in at an angle allows you to use the backboard if necessary. That means your target for getting up a good shot includes not only the rim area but much of the glass as well. If you come straight at the hoop you only have one place to put the ball: straight at the rim. The angle for a good shot is much narrower and thus much easier to defend (or miss).
Second, coming in at an angle means that you have more space to maneuver while still heading towards the hoop. Imagine driving at the basket on a diagonal slant. If there's a defender in front of you, you can go around him to the left or right and still be headed towards the rim with the most minor of directional adjustments. The only difference is whether you'll come at the rim from the baseline side or from in front. Now imagine driving straight at the basket with a defender in front of you. You can still go left or right to get around him but as you do so you are actually taking a line that will leave you farther away from the rim to the side. If you keep going on this left or right line you will end up wide of the rim, having to reach to the opposite direction your body is heading to get the ball home. It's much harder to put down a shot when angling away from the rim than it is when angling towards it.
Third, coming in at an angle from one side or the other forces the defender to commit to the side you're on in order to guard you. The basic idea of a fast break is to put more players on the attack than defenders can handle. If you draw a defender off to one side a little there's no way he can get over and cover a player running down the other side of the court. If you take a line straight down the middle you leave that defender the option of going to either side and picking up any attacker coming towards the rim. One defender can potentially cover two attackers if he's allowed to stay in the middle of the floor.
This latter explanation also tells you why it's important for the players running with the dribbler on a fast break to get out wide. If attackers run in a bunch then a single defender can get in front of them all. If they're spread wide any pass will reach the attacker long before the defender can cover that space.
So what do we see when the Blazers run? Dribblers headed mostly down the middle and teammates running with them no more than 5-6 feet away. That ain't good.
I don't know if the coaching staff figures that it's more important to drill things we'll see 80 times a game (defense and halfcourt offense) than it is things we'll see 3-4 times a game like the fast break, but from my seat we could sure use those 6-8 extra points. Or maybe the Blazers are drilled in this but just forget in the rush. Either way, it's painful to watch and needs to be corrected.
3. Make Oden's Rehab Count
I hesitate to direct prescriptions at individual players without knowing more about them or what they're already doing, but Greg Oden is sticking out like a sore thumb right now, so I'm going to risk it. Let's play a game of "If I Were Oden".
First off, if I were Greg Oden I would take a page out of Joel Przybilla's book and figure if injuries and mobility are any kind of concern, lighter is better. I would ask the team to hire me a personal nutritionist and consider the next month my "eat into shape" time. I wouldn't eat a thing without his OK. Heck, he might even do my cooking for me. I might not stay on this regimen forever, but if I'm not going to be able to do strong cardio and I'm already having conditioning issues I need to do something. Maybe I'll pick up tips that will serve me throughout my career. Better yet, maybe my road back this winter will be easier. Strength and muscle mass can come later. For now, lean and mobile are in. I want to be more streamlined when I get off crutches than I was when I started.
Second, I would be in the gym doing anything I could to work on some kind of shot. Maybe I sit in a chair, get a hoop that adjusts lower, and work on my upper body motion for a face-up shot. Once I can move, even slowly, I'm going to start drilling that hook shot. I want hundreds and hundreds of reps a day, morning and evening. You can't keep me out of the gym.
Most of all, if I'm Oden, I don't make the team remind me of this stuff. I take charge of my own practice as I'm coming back from injury. I make the decision to get better at my craft and to keep my body going.
Now it may well be that Greg Oden is already doing these things. I'm not suggesting we all peek over his shoulder either. But I hope and pray that any setback, such as the foot sprain, becomes an opportunity for him rather than another roadblock. That could well make the difference between a successful career (mentally and emotionally if not physically) and a disappointing one. As long as you have the talent and an adequate body, the next most important factor in sticking in this league seems to be attitude. It takes developing, but once you have the right one nobody and nothing can take it away from you.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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fast break
it was sure difficult for jack to run last year. i would expect that fast breaks would improve if sergio was in…as that is his specialty. i’m less concerned with fast breaks than i am with a legit post game. i was hoping that greg would be our man down low opening up the midrange game for LMA…but i guess LMA will have to playing in the most for a majority of the game again.
agree --
i’d like to see sergio run the team with full confidence with rudy on the wing… this has to be something special, b/c so many analysts have talked about it
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 30, 2008 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree !
Let Sergio Start. Topic creator…. Why do you think we can’t run the FB? Blake can’t do it.
START SERGIO
Dear God... Please bless Greg Oden with health. Let him heal, get into shape Physically and Mentally. The City of Portland deserves him
by TheGreatDane17 on Oct 30, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh for pete's sake
Sergio shouldn’t start because (1) he hasn’t earned it and (2) he doesn’t play so well with the first team. However, I do think he should be getting more playing time in the second unit. I’m baffled as to why Nate chose to play Jarryd over Sergio against LA.
by DonkeyShins on Oct 30, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
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Hasn’t earned it… He only played 5 mins in regular season.
Start Sergio. Blake can't run the fast break for ****
by TheGreatDane17 on Oct 30, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
preposterous idea
Sergio will start when the Pope grows wings and flies to Alaska.
Zero defense and zero interior offense.
You wanna know who should start at PG? Bayless, that’s who.
The perfect is the enemy of the good.
The Fast Break
I am with the Philthy on this one. The Blazers first and foremost didn’t have that many fast break opportunities to mismanage and turn the ball over (There was only one that I can remember that was ugly). However, it would be nice to know that when we have a 3 on 2 or 2 on 1 advantage, the ball is going to go in the hoop for an easy bucket rather than holding our breath and hoping for the best. My fingers are crossed that the team can develop some consistency here. I think Rudy will play a major factor. I LOVE how this guy reads passing lanes on defense. He is like Champ Baily out there picking off passes.
I don’t think one game is enough to call something broken anyways. Maybe 3 or 4 games with poor execution but let’s let Nate see what he can do in a couple practices.
Oden and Fatty Burritos
I know the dude is huge and has an above average appetite but fat burritos from Chipotle aren’t exactly the healthiest rehab food. Channing hired a nutritionist over the summer and was in the best shape of his career before his surgery.
Oden and the High post
Thirteen minutes isn’t exactly enough time to establish a rhythm on the floor but I would have liked to have seen some high and low post game between Oden and LMA. This aspect of the Blazer’s offense will allow both players to showcase the best of their offensive arsenal as well as open up outside shooters in a modified triangle offense. This didn’t happen in LA. Since GO is out for the next 2-4, my guess is close to two or less, it may still be a while before we do.
Well,
I’m going to go ahead and say that seeing Greg enjoying a burrito at Chipotle is not something we should analyze. It’s really gotten to this point? We have breathless headlines sayin, “ODEN ON CRUTCHES AT CHIPOTLE!!!” as if it’s a monumental occasion?
Greg is a 20 year old kid. The guy wanted lunch after his MRI. Can we leave it at that? Do we really need people sending in cell phone pictures and reporting on what he ordered?
I’m tired. Can’t imagine how Mr. Oden feels.
Gilbert Arenas said he eats
a half-gallon (or was it a gallon?) of ice cream after each game and then goes to sleep.
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
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How does he know that?
Dear God... Please bless Greg Oden with health. Let him heal, get into shape Physically and Mentally. The City of Portland deserves him
by TheGreatDane17 on Oct 30, 2008 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
He goes to Baskin & Robbins with Darius
Thank you, thank you. I’ll be in the lounge all week. Try the salmon!
by DonkeyShins on Oct 30, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Arenas eats the ice cream, you dork dawg!
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Oct 30, 2008 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
3-man weave
Basic stuff that the players should’ve been running since high school. Make the wings always touch the sidelines to confirm they will stay wide!
Coach it, coach it, coach it!
I'd rather see Greg at Chipotle
Then at McDonalds or Taco Bell.
At least Chipotle has some semblance of nutrition.
by DonkeyShins on Oct 30, 2008 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
LMA
Last game, LMA showed zero ball handling which he said he worked on during the summer. It was disappointing since he got the ball so many times at the elbow or wing and decided to just chuck a 19 footer. I’m looking for him to actually attack the basket this year and draw some FTs. None of this drifting around the perimeter, get in the paint and mix it up! Maybe I’m expecting too much from a POWER forward, but it’s kind of sad to know Channing Frye is more physical than LMA.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
Maybe both LMA & the Buffet of Goodness were told that would be GO's dept now
I like the idea of the power forwards and centers alternating high/low , allowing the forwards to post opposing forwards down low (with the opposing center drawn outside the paint). Both LMA & Frye have the height to be effective down there when they’re not being guarded by centers.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
The first sentence of your last paragraph was on the mark, I suspect
Do you really think GO hasn’t been working on his shot or his nutrition? Re/ the latter, he’s lost a lot of weight over the past month or two. Prior to that, it was inevitable that he’d put on a few pounds, as his activity level was limited by his injury. To expect him to lose weight while he’s out with his current injury is unrealistic for that very reason. I’d say the best-case scenario would be for him to maintain his present weight.
Speaking of this much-discussed topic—GO’s weight—remember that Andrew Bynum’s reported dimensions are identical to GO’s—i.e., 7’ and 280 lb. That’s not necessarily overweight. Remember, GO played at only a few pounds less in college, and he was a teenager then. Most players fill out as they age: that’s ordinary maturation.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
Re/ the fast break, what about the outlet pass?
Watching replays of the ‘77 Blazer team lately (on Comcast), that’s what stuck out. Both Walton and Lucas rebounded and outletted in one motion. It was lightening quick, and that put the defense on its heels right off the bat. I did notice GO making a couple outlet passes like that in the preseason; hopefully he and the rest of the Blazer bigs are being drilled on that fundamental on a regular basis. Luke’s absence may be being felt in that department right now…
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
Luke's absence? Where'd he go?
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
He was hospitalized with a viral infection last month.
I’m surprised he hasn’t returned yet (he may have, but may be taking it easy – no word from the front office.
by DonkeyShins on Oct 30, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
on paper the blazers have one of the biggest teams in the NBA
they gotta start playing like it….
i read somewhere that LMA is the blazers best wing defender at 6’11", so basically if u went with a big lineup of broy/rudy/LMA/frye or pryz/oden it would be tough for a lot of teams in the halfcourt
considering preseason stats
you make see 6’10" Randolph getting more minutes..9.8/5.5 pts/rb steals blocked shots drew charges…high BBIQ ..
10 pts in 1st half at Utah -
he was practicing with the “black” unit last week ..
As of this moment, the second unit should be ...
Channing Frye, Ike Diogu, Travis Outlaw, Rudy Fernandez, and Sergio Rodriguez.
Even though that’s a quintet of very shoddy defenders, it’s a well-balanced squad offensively. Unlike Frye and Shavlik Randolph, Diogu is skilled at posting up down on the low block and scoring underneath the hoop with his back to the basket. My inclination, however, is for Kevin Pritchard to somehow acquire a serviceable defensive-minded center who’ll ease the loss of Greg Oden — which was the reasoning behind this post: http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/10/29/648974/here-s-a-stopgap-trade-pro — nonetheless, it seems that most everyone is content to trudge through the next month with just one healthy center and four power forwards on the active roster. I think that’s a risky proposition, though.
none are skilled enough to be a dependable low post against an elite 5
thats not where our game is going to come from…
Mania
There’s a scene in Woody Allen’s film, “Stardust Memories,” where his character is followed relentlessly by fans who ask absurd questions, press him for favors, and generally attach themselves to him in the hope that somehow, by identifying with him, their own miserable lives can be improved.
I bring this up because Oden is probably suffering from the weight of media parasites whose weight on his back has begun to drag him into the muck. The unrelenting gawking, commentary, and heavy breathing that follows his every breath is a terrible and undeserved burden, and it is no less destructive than trying to grab a rebound with three Lakers on one’s back. Oden’s injury is a sad-but-accurate metaphor of what his recent life has been. While trying simply to do his job, the necessary effort tore up his foot.
The weight of unreasonable and manic expectations helped hobble Bill Walton in 1978, when he was pressured into using medication rather than sit out a game (also because of a foot injury), and the franchise was dealt a blow it has not yet recovered from. It’s okay to love the golden eggs, folks, but, for God’s sake, let the goose live!
Basketball is a team game, and the media focus on one guy, to the exclusion of the others on the team, is always harmful. No matter how a coach tries to insulate the team from it, when reporters, bloggers, crazy fans, and random fruitcakes relentlessly pursue a “story” about one guy while ignoring the big picture (It’s a GAME), the unfair, unnecessary, and unproductive attention eats away at the team’s morale.
Therefore, I think it would be great if everyone in Portland who calls himself or herself a Blazer Fan would simply shut up about Greg Oden. Watch the games, scream at the TV, and read the blogs. But leave Greg alone for a while. He’s just a human being with a hurt foot. Leave him alone, for his sake and the sake of the team you “love.”
If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.
by CosmoPlavix on Oct 30, 2008 6:51 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
The big man curse
If there is a Blazer big man curse (which KP denies is the case…) it began with the pain-killers that Walton reluctantly agreed to get shot-up with to keep him on the court in the spring of ’78. The team had started 50-10, then injuries to Walton, Lucas and Neal led to a 8-22 closeout of the regular season (heck, they even brought Dale Schlueter out of retirement because they ran out of big bodies!)
The pressure to “repeat” was great in ‘78. Walton took the pain-killers, broke his foot, sued the Portland medical and wound up in San Diego (Clippers) “Nobody asked me” (as Harry Glickman would say…) but THAT’s when the TB big man curse began, to be followed by Mychal Thomson (broken leg) Kevin Kunnert (foot injury) Sam Bowie (tibias) Kevin Duckworth (hand) and Arvydas Sabonis (achilles)
If you don’t believe it, it doesn’t matter. The proof is in the medical records. What can be done? Ask/beg Walton for absolution and get it in writing and on video to make it official. This franchise needs to move forward and Greg Oden shouldn’t “pay” for the sins of Blazer doctors and team execs of the past.
That team ended 8-24, not 8-22
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
82 game season
58-24, you’re correct
FWIW, the key games that Walton “couldn’t miss” were in the playoffs vs. Seattle
Some of Walton's problems
Were due to the fact that he was ill-nourished. You can’t be an NBA starting center on a near-vegan diet. You don’t get enough calcium, protein or fat to maintain your body.
Also, big men have more injury problems because they are putting far more stresses on their lower legs and feet than average-sized folks.
by DonkeyShins on Oct 30, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Bill also has
ridiculously high arches
Halberstam’s book “The Breaks of the Game” is a great reference for late 70’s Blazer history. There’s a chapter re: Walton foot issues vs. vegan diet
I remember that
An independant doctor, as I recall, examined Walton’s feet and was horrified. He said something like, “The wonder isn’t that you’re having foot problems, young man. The wonder is that you’ve been able to play basketball at all with those feet.” Whatever fault was due the Blazers staff for shooting Walton up, he was due for foot problems anyway because of those bizarrely shaped feet.
BTW, when I watched Game 3 of the ’77 Finals last night (on Coincast), they showed Walton on the bench at one point. Rick Barry, the commentator, seemed surprised that Walton had taken his shoes off and was icing his feet. I thought that was telling. Even before the injury problems, those dogs were clearly hurting the Big Redhead.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
I agree
Great trip down memory lane. Too true.
If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.
by CosmoPlavix on Oct 30, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
wow
I’ve never seen or heard anyone reference Stardust memories before. Amazing film and glad to be reminded of it, thanks Cosmo.
Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com
You're very welcome.
If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.
by CosmoPlavix on Oct 30, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
+1 zillion
I could not agree more with your comments.
If I do not live to see the Blazers win a second championship, I would not care a whit. But I am rooting like crazy for Oden to succeed. Or at least to not lose his mind and soul in the process. Oden seems to be a very nice, self-effacing, down-to-earth kid who is more than a little confused as to all the fuss that is being made over him. Not possessing the flair for the megalomaniacal of many of his peers, he doesn’t see himself as particularly special. But at the same time, he appears to take very seriously all of the expectations that have been placed upon him. He so badly wants to live up to them and not disappoint the enormous amount of faith that the Trail Blazer organization and its fan base have invested in him.
The pressure he must be feeling is incalcuable. As I stated in an earler post, I think the team should at least be just as focused on Oden’s mental well-being as they are with his physical health. However, I fear this aspect is being largely overlooked by the team. Especially when I read comments such as the ones that were made following the season opener against the Lakers:
LaMarcus Aldridge said “… everyone was passive. I can say for myself I think my whole mentality was to play off Greg, which is a different mentality I possessed from last year, so I felt like I was playing passive, as well.”
Brandon Roy had similar thoughts, that Oden’s presence caused everyone to relax and let the big fella handle it, only to find that the Lakers were handling them.
Now, LaMarcus and Brandon both strike me as pretty bright guys, but – are you kidding me? It’s Oden’s long-anticipated, much-hyped regular season debut on national TV against the defending Conference champs and the team is already thinking “let the big fella handle it”? Coming into the season, even the most cockeyed optimists were not projecting Oden as better than the team’s fourth offensive option. So, just where did this “let the big fella handle it” mindset come from? You’d think that the team would’ve gone in with an opposite approach, thinking that they had to protect the “big fella” by limiting their expected contributions from him on his first few weeks on the job.
In fact, I find it troubling that the Blazer organization seems to have succumbed to the same unrealistic expectations held by the media and the fans. You’d think that helping Oden deal with the pressure of that burden would have been high on their list of priorities. Sadly, it would appear that marketing considerations have eclipsed the need to help Oden make the psychological adjustment to playing in the NBA and carrying the hopes and dreams of a franchise on his shoulders. I hope they back off the kid, give him some breathing space, and even hire a sports psychologist for him, if needed. In short, let him find his own way, at his own pace and – if nothing else – let his team mate’s know that, for now, they’ll have to do more than just “let the big fella handle it” when they are out on the floor.
by knickfan on Oct 30, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
It’s gotta be crazy tough for him … and it really showed the other night. He looked pretty rattled.
What’s crazy is how he does it all with an easy smile.
(welcome back, knickfan)
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
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Nice job
Very well-said. Mass hysteria rarely helps someone do well, and your comments are right on the mark.
If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.
by CosmoPlavix on Oct 30, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
Hello, everyone: this guy is TWENTY YEARS OLD!! Please lighten up on him. Just because he looks 50 doesn’t mean he’s actually that age!
We Blazer fans literally won the lottery when the team landed this guy. Now we’re looking the gift horse in the mouth so deeply that we’re going to choke him to death! If Greg Oden decides he’s had enough and signs with another team when his rookie contract expires, Blazer fans will have no one to blame but themselves. They’ll be just like Orlando Magic fans—watching from afar while their prize, generational center wins championships with another team.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
don't you think
that Oden’s problem began with him announcing to enter the draft…..It was my opinion, he was entering on potential…I got to watch 5 games when he played for Ohio State and it was apparent to me he needed bunches of seasoning….he was very raw then, and still is…..So it is; welcome to the USA/NBA/hyped media world of athletes…..there is too much encouragement for young people to get out there and strut their stuff………big money the main factor
People in Portland have embraced this guy and many recognize he’s young and somewhat immature….Some fans get unrealistic about someone like Oden because they start counting chickens before they are hatched…..seeing championships before they are possible…without a good concept of the long and winding road of how to get there….
Injuries can change that course in a heartbeat and having young (still unproven) players makes for more questions….No one is living in the world of reality and the pressure falls on the # 1 draft pick right away…then gets compounded with injuries……
the Blazers had no good option but to draft this player…..but it had to be on upside hopes as well….everything that has happened, in between, is fallout that exists as a possibility and has equal opportunity to take control
Leaving him alone is a good concept, but also not reality….he will not be left alone…second guessing is part of sports media and also part of the fan base…… I can accept, what is, because I never built that bubble for myself……some people had such a big bubble it had a greater chance of bursting
As for Walton, some people forget how he thumbed his nose at Portland…did not want to live in the rainy NW and did nothing to help himself and the hype surrounding him….back then kids came out with 4 years of college under their belts and should have had a better grip on life…Walton did not ……and because he kept hiding behind his cause( and hanging out with radical people), it made the Blazer staff skeptical of his issues….my guess would be, that if they left him alone, he could have very well never played any more for the Blazers…hung out with his California buddies and if he re-entered Basketball it would have been under his own terms and thus playing for a southern California team…..He was a gifted player, but also very spoiled……and when it came to life outside of basketball quite immature, if not stupid altogether
by 67 on Oct 30, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
While I don't expect the media
to leave him alone, I would certainly hope that the team would at least try and shield their franchise center from all of that noise and distraction.
Look: I know that the media’s job is to sell stories and that Oden is a big story. I also understand that fans will be fans. But what I don’t get is the team’s apparent laissez-faire approach to helping their franchise center adjust psychologically to shouldering the burden of all of this hype and expectation. And, as I said upthread, I absolutely don’t get this attutude of “relax and let the big fella handle it” when they’re out on the floor. At this stage of Oden’s development, there’s just no way that he should be a central part of the Blazers’ offensive attack. I recall reading a story about Dwight Howard’s first training camp with the Magic. After the team had gone through several days practicing its offensive sets, Howard finally asked coach Brian Hill when they were going to start running some plays for him. Hill reportedly pointed up at the backboard and told Howard “If you want to touch the ball this year, you’ll have to get it from there.”
Now, I’m not suggesting that Nate should take exactly that same approach. But I do believe he should seriously minimize Oden’s role in the offense. Have him focus on defense and rebounding and work him into the flow of the offense slowly, like the Magic did with Howard. This will not only help Oden develop as a ballplayer, it should also help to relieve some of the pressure that he’s no doubt putting on himself.
Yes
It looked like a practice run gone wrong…but I have to agree, Oden is clearly not ready , both physically and mentally….They have jumped the gun, so to speak, and let their dreams get ahead of reality….But everyone has been under pressure to get his body on the floor…so much so, they forgot to fill up the tank, before taking the long and winding road to success……
by 67 on Oct 31, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
all good thoughts
Hey Dave
Whatabout the results from the jersey contest? Does anyone actually know who scored the first blazer basket? Maybe this got lost in the fold, many stories as there were post game.
Came on free throws, I believe.
As I recall we missed our first 9 or so shots.
"For the past two seasons it's been like, 'They're young, they're going to need some time,"' Roy said. "It doesn't feel like that this season."
And no one knows who made them because
stupid TNT couldn’t schedule the games 10 minutes further apart.
"For the past two seasons it's been like, 'They're young, they're going to need some time,"' Roy said. "It doesn't feel like that this season."
The play-by-play says:
Aldridge Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS)
Assist: Blake (1 AST) 10:53 [POR 2-3]
Picking Aldridge on a non-dunk two-pointer gets the points.
that's me!
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I'm with you on the fast break
I’m disappointed as a fan but not upset as a Vulcan Logician after the game…
… but for the fact you mentioned.
What has it been? 3 seasons? 4 seasons since we saw a credible fast break? We blamed it on Stoudamire; we blamed it on Telfair; I saw someone mention above we need Sergio in for a decent fast break…
Really?
I’m starting to think I haven’t seen a good break since Dunleavy or maybe Addelman. And I believe it’s a big part of the game. It’s immeasurably demoralizing to the other team; the other team’s fans; and puts your own team on a big high.
Not to mention it sells tickets.
I wonder if Nate just doesn’t give a crap about the break because it seems strange to me that all of our players just happen to be deficient in this category.
Buck Williams for the hall of fame
What Oden has to do
Further to a couple of Dave’s points…
1. OG says he is in shape, just not basketball shape. But anyone who saw him laboring up and down the court on Tuesday, trailing the play by 5 to 15 yards and watching from behind as LA’s big men went in for easy fast-break dunks, knows that he’s really not in any shape whatsoever.
2. Ever since summer league 15 months ago, when third-rate college kids were swatting away Greg’s flat 3 to 5-foot lob shot, I had expected him to have this relatively minor (but extremely important) aspect of his game vastly improved. Just in the last 3 months, since he has been working out on the court one on one he should have thrown up at least 20 or 30 thousand shots — both right and left handed — at first standing still, and then bit by bit as his knee improved, with elevation. By now the arc should at least have increased from 0 degrees to 20 or 30. But I have seen no evidence that he has worked on his shot whatsoever. How is this possible? Perfection of such a shot can take a long time, but with the aid of a coach tossing you balls every 3 or 4 seconds, progress at least in the arc and direction of the shot, if not in the precision of the distance, should by now at least be noticeable. It is not.
I feel like a heel even saying these things considering what Greg has gone through since mid 2007. Perhaps, given what we are no doubt reliably informed is his great personal commitment, the issue lies with the staff. I would think that Greg’s extraordinary prospective role on this team would warrant a full-time personal coach, probably accompanied by a full-time assistant or two (in addition to the full-time nuitritionist recommended by Dave). If something like this is happening, there should be some glimmer of evidence. There is not.
(I felt the same way about staff the last couple of years when language was a frequent issue in the media with Sergio — after buying him for $3 million(!) why couldn’t the team given him a full-time linguist for a hundred grand a year from day one, and required him to use him/her? And why so long in improving the arc on his shot? So much of the NBA is about putting the onus completely on the player rather than coaching, but given the low maturity levels of many of these young men and the amount of money they are paid, not to mention the value of the team to the owner, coaching staffs should be twice the size they are — go to a Dolphins game and count the staff on the sidelines; they nearly outnumber the players!)
I felt so sorry for Greg the other night. He looked so dreadfully out of shape and so completely unprepared for the real NBA game; I hope he comes back this time more ready to play.
by blazerwizard on Oct 30, 2008 7:04 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
A great perspective
about the Blazers staff….it is rearing the ugly head that has hidden away in the hype…The NBA is now a training ground for young players…this includes developing maturity….Years back, a lot of this was done in college….Now the young players are coming into the league without all the basic fundamentals and different levels of maturity…..
The game has changed so much in this respect….and now it’s time to get staff personal that understand more about how to handle the new breed of recruits…..The foreign players are catching up, because they have a fundamental background approach to get development from their young players….this gives the athletes a chance to gain experience at lower levels to improve skills, fundamentals, and to some extent, better BBIQ…..
This being said, you have to wonder if the Blazer organization has any insight on this type of perspective?……I’m with you…if they don’t, they should
I'm like that old man clinging to a peice of drift wood in the middle of the pacific ocean...
clinging on for dear life….
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Fast Break
To run the fast break requires a good, FAST point guard who can deliver the ball accurately and on time to his teammates. I still wonder whether KP would have drafted Augustine ahead of Bayless if he had the chance.
by Original Blazer Fan on Oct 30, 2008 7:45 AM PDT reply actions
really need a vet PG
who can push the tempo, then all of the TB’s fast break woes will be history
(as long as Nate lets the vet PG loose, that is..)
Balance board work and Diet
Really great comments on 95.5 this morning from a physical therapist stating that these injuries all happening on his right side could mean his nervous system is over/under compensating to correct. He said if he was training Greg there would be quite a bit of balance work incorporated. I tore all the ligaments in my ankle playing hoops a few years back and was informed by the doctor it was the worst he had seen in 20 years. I spent 6 months with a sports therapist and the majority of the work involved was fast muscle twitch exercises. Basically training the body/brain to subconsciously have a knee jerk reaction (pun intended) to situations where a joint is at risk and essentially auto-correct before any damage can occur. I hope I am stating the obvious and this is being done. Also regarding Greg’s diet. These guys are young and burn this stuff off even when they are sedintary. They have metabolisms by comparison to us mere mortals are off the charts. That being said Friday Greg was sitting next to me at Five Guys Burgers and then I see the photo of him at Chipotle. The Blazers could easily as was mentioned above assist or even hire a nutritionist that when combined with the strength, conditioning and cardio he is doing get him where he needs to be in 1.5 to 3 months.
TK
Nutrition
I totally agree with Dave’s comments about nutrition. GO – and every player – needs every competitive advantage they can get. Good nutrition can be one of those advantages. I was rather dismayed to read something about GO recently – that article talking about how he slugged down a Red Bull before going to bed, counting on the sugar crash to get him to sleep. Caffeine and sugar – not good things to be putting into your body.
In general, the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other.
Caffeine and sugar are not good for you?
BLASPHEMY!
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
LOL - I know, I know
I love the stuff, too – both sugar and caffeine – practically raised on the stuff. But when you look into the physiological effects of caffeine … well, it’s scary sh*t. Took me a LONG time to get permanently off caffeine, but I can honestly say that my overall energy level went UP once I kicked the habit. And it sure smoothed things out and has lead to me flipping off far fewer crappy Portland drivers.
In general, the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other.
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No joke Greg.
Start Sergio. Blake can't run the fast break for ****
by TheGreatDane17 on Oct 30, 2008 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
"COUNTING ON THE SUGAR CRASH TO GET HIM TO SLEEP" ???? !!!!!!!!
This is appalling. Greg is ravaging his body. He needs some major counseling about nutrition.
He probably needs counseling from a sports psychologist too. But the front office should be very hush hush about that part of it. We don’t want the world (or Oden himself) thinking that the dude is going off the rails.
The perfect is the enemy of the good.
I just finished a Joseph Schmidt truffle.

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
I'm tired of Oden-this, Oden-that...
Here’s how to fix what ails this team:
1. GET LMA AND CHANNING LOW. We don’t need a 6’11" jumpshooter. We need someone to ruck for rebounds and score the ball low. Pryz can do one of these things superbly, the other not so much. Give the opposition something to fear low so that they can’t cheat on the perimeter defense.
2. RUN, DAMN IT!!! Watch some old Blazer film. What do you see — OUTLET PASSES. Hello? Hello? This is a young team that plays like a senior recreational league team. There’s nothing wrong with a solid half-court game, but THAT’S ALL THEY CAN DO. They plod, they run the same boring pick-and-roll and then they take their 18 foot jumpers which either clank or fall. That’s a recipe for disaster.
3. END THE SERGIO ERA AND END IT NOW. Get him out of here. Play Rex and play him now. Think Tony Parker. Rex is our Jordan Farmar, putting it differently. Get him in games, let’s see what we can do. We’ve seen the Sergio song and dance already — nothing has changed… A few snappy passes and FEAR on the court. Say what you want about Rex, but FEAR will not be a problem. Sergio is nothing more than a dinner companion and glorified alley oop machine for Rudy. Move him for pennies on the dollar; or cut him and send him to Europe. It doesn’t matter. Get him OUT OF HERE.
Oden Schmoden.
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"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex
You are an opinionated man timbo :)
Yeah, our offensive rebounding didn’t look stellar against LA with the PFs standing a bit far away from the basket. Though I have hopes from the preseason that Greg can fix that almost by himself (was the second-best of all players although only playing in 6 games). And this team needs to run whenever there is a chance with guys like Rudy who did that brilliantly in the ACB. Regarding Sergio, I’m currently in wait and see mode.
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Bayless
Can also be said is a selfish player, didn’t want or expect to come here & wants to be the #1 scorer who never passes. Heads up pal, we have two all star level scorers and one rookie that if he is healthy coming of injury could be a force down low. We don’t need a scoring PG. We need someone to spread the ball around & eventually shoot the 3. Sergio fits it to a T. Not only that but his connection with Rudy is just the start. He runs the fast break better then anyone one the team. Start him. Trade Bayless for a team player.
Start Sergio. Blake can't run the fast break for ****
by TheGreatDane17 on Oct 30, 2008 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
HURRAY TIMBO! YOU SAID IT THE BEST BUDDY!
Put our remaining bigs in the offensive paint whenever possible. Use LMA’s new bulk and muscle to get some easy buckets. Put Frye down there too, for heaven’s sake. Maybe even use Travis more at the 4 and put him down there too. I liked that small lineup they had out there for awhile toward the end of the third quarter.
And by all means, play Jerryd instead of Sergio! Make the commitment NOW and give Jerryd a chance to develop.
And come on let’s see at least a few fast break attempts! The monocultural character of our offense in the first game was appalling and I gotta say alarming. Nate you must pull out the stops and release your inner D’Antoni. Get creative buddy! Think in colors instead of shades of gray! Wear a tie dye on game day. That’ll adjust your attitude.
The perfect is the enemy of the good.
Ice in the Veins is a Good Thing in Sports
I agree with you. I was a staunch Sergio supporter for the last two years, and I’d like to see him succeed somewhere. But if he ain’t gonna play, move him.
Points in the paint are essential to a contender, and running is what the game should be about. If you’re an NBA player and you haven’t yet figured out how to pass and catch, you’re in the wrong line of work. Thanks for the clear, sensible take.
If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.
by CosmoPlavix on Oct 30, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
It's been evident
for a long time that there is no emphasis on the fast break. When the bigs get a rebound they mostly hand it or short pass it to a guard standing nearby instead of looking to pass it to a teammate streaking down court.
Greg should take some weight off his knees and feet? Duh!! How long have I been preaching this? Ever since Nate became upset when he saw how heavy Oden was getting from all the weight workouts with Bobby Medina.
To bolster his cardio fitness during this next rehab he should be spending hours doing whatever cardio exercise is allowed, such as swimming, or possibly bicycles or eliptical machines or whatever. And he should be maniacal about doing it. Judging from his current lack of fitness, I wonder how truly committed to this type of activity he was during his knee rehab. Stay away from the weights for awhile and focus instead cardio-vascular stuff.
And I also agree with PtownJake …. stay out of Chipotle’s for awhile — at least until he starts burning heavy calories by playing full time NBA ball (oh how we all hope that day will come — and I’m sure nobody hopes for it more than Greg).
Yes
You have a calmer approach than I do, but you are stating the facts…The fast break mindset is not there and even if they had the fundamentals (which they don’t) it won’t happen( although having Rudy and Batum can give them some hope)
It is so very clear that Oden is physically not ready to play…..It is also evident that they babied this guy too much in his rehab ….the basic follow up was left on the back burner and they forgot to turn it on
In this wonderful scene of second guessing/hindsight….One would have to think, they would do the whole thing quite differently
and the sad part is; Now Oden is on a roller coaster…he needs to get to game shape and to do that he needs to play…..sitting on a rehab of conditioning and nutrition before playing, will drop him behind in getting game shape and then playing with the team……The guy is a giant and therefore more susceptible to injuries….He is already carrying a lot of weight, just being big, but lean muscle wt. is what he needs…..he has no agility at all …. and I would speculate, by looking at the replay of his “rolled foot”, that he got hurt because he was a heavy, lumbering, almost awkward, giant of a man….IMO …don’t count on much from him this season…..
by 67 on Oct 30, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Fastbreak for 2008= far reaching
and probably not even a goal…….the Blazers do not have anything going for them as a fast break team…They are a hundred miles away
1. fast breaks get generated out of many different parts of the game
first and foremost……
A. Aggressive defense
stop the ball( get them out of their first and second option so they are working against the clock)
play the passing lanes
try to breakdown the first option(force them into taking a less desirable shot)
fundamental position (both on the boards and man on man "D")
hustle plays, reaction plays, anticipation, etc.
once you get the basics of defense (and I left out some things for sure) then as some have said, you need to move the ball quickly down court…this means forget dribbling the ball….once you start dribbling you allow the defense to catch up….you get the outlet to(at least) half court before any dribbling occurs…this may take two passes…but the idea is to get the defense on their heels (you beat them in transition)…..(this also means the players have to stack their transition positions to allow the ball to be passed instead of dribbled …then the ball needs to get to the middle of the court (only time a few dribbles may need to happen (but still passing gets it there faster) This gives you 3 lanes to attack the basket ( and if you have an active team, this will also allow a return pass to a trailer steaming to the hoop) …..this option you almost never see anymore in the NBA, because most players rely on their athletic ability to finish the play…however, there should be no excuse for not returning the pass when you have the numbers…. A very effective finish, that has some demoralizing effect as well….
These examples are just a few of ways to get a fast break into your game….The Blazers aren’t even close…they are missing the fundamentals of it all and their coach has not installed any gears to add to the mindset of the players for it to happen…..until this team realizes the value of getting easy hoops, they will always live on the edge and the outcome of games, in which they have the lead, will always be in doubt….They won 41 games last year…How many of them were decided early on?
Let's not rush to judgment
While a 1,000 calorie burrito would be cause for concern (nay, panic), we can’t be sure he didn’t have a highly nutritious burrito bowl, sans sour creme. The burrito part being kind of a misnomer, of course, because there is no burrito involved. Which means it’s very healthy and not fatty and premium NBA feul to make your sore foot feel much better.
Basicallly, the 2-4 week period is in the balance, not to mention the rest of Greg’s career. Burrito bowl? Back averaging 16-11 in two weeks, no problem. Burrito? Back in four weeks, lumbering around, averaging 5 and 5 if he’s lucky and getting benched for Pryz’s superior offensive game. Much is at stake (or, perhaps, at steak).
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
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Chad Johnson eats a bag of McDonalds every day, he is in great shape. It just depends on what Greg does with his calories.
Start Sergio. Blake can't run the fast break for ****
by TheGreatDane17 on Oct 30, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
he stores them…last time I checked, you don’t burn much sitting (although I’ve been working on that..)
by 67 on Oct 30, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think his diet is the issue.
When I was in my teens and twenties, I could go from couch-potato shape to full-court basketball shape in less than two weeks. I ran the Bay to Breakers (7.62 miles) on four-days of training at the age of 30. I know pickup games aren’t the same as NBA games, but it puzzles me that it is taking GO so long to get to the point where he can run hard, cut, jump, etc. steadily for 30 minutes without wheezing.
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by MiledAnimal on Oct 30, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Prescription ?
I’m like one of those patients too depressed to take my prescription. I might need in-patient therapy.
Dr. Dave, can you just beam a memory eraser directly into my head and make a new memory of the game … one where Oden isn’t hurt in the first quarter, one where Canning and LaMarcus don’t take three-point clankers like Bukowski did whiskey shots, one where Bandon CAN hit the broadside of a barn, one where Sergio is “much improved” over last year, one where defense and offense don’t look shaky as miniature greyhounds pulling an Iditarod dogsled?
… um, please?
I have health insurance now, if that helps.
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
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I think there are actually a few positives to come out of this...
1) Our team will be forced to play like they did last year (sans Oden), and they can reestablish that Roy and Aldridge are in the offensive drivers seat. Oden will blend into this team… the team doesn’t blend around Oden.
2) Oden will miss the added pressure of playing against the NBA’s established great big men right off the bat, many of which were going to be in the opponents arena. He can ease into his career with a couple of softies and get his feet under him (no pun intended).
3) I might be able to go to the home opener where he is finally unveiled as the starting center. I’m unable to go to Friday’s game and was quite livid about missing the first introduction to the home crowd of Mr. Oden. Yes, I am so selfish as to have actually listed this as a positive to him being out for a couple of weeks… sorry.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Oct 30, 2008 9:49 AM PDT reply actions
When Oden finally does make his home debut,
I wonder how warm the response will be, compared to how it would have been had he not hurt his ankle?
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by MiledAnimal on Oct 30, 2008 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I expect total mayham still upon hearing...
NUMBER 52… GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-DENNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!
People will weep.
I doubt it would help much for his confindence if everyone just sat on their hands and gasped everytime he touched the ball.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Oct 30, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
i agree...
this could be positive… the whole thing brought about much more reality than otherwise; this could be the best thing yet to happen, strangely… now everyone will be calmer and hopefully less expectations…. i think the media (i.e. Jason Quick) is partly responsible for all this false hype
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 30, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Quick?
He told Oden to his face that GO had been underwhelming.
What are your referring to?
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Oct 30, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
you listen to the podcasts?
Quick raised fans expectations. He said several times about how Roy was “so smooth” and the 2nd unit was going to flat out dominate… I just think his comments were premature and unnecessary.
I think Quick does a decent job, but I think he does have some responsibility in raising the expectations of the fans.
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 30, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, yes, and yes!
If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.
by CosmoPlavix on Oct 30, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
finally
some real discussion inspired from the results of an actual basketball game that counts. The Summer was driving me nuts reading all of these well intentioned, but pointless (in the scheme of things) posts.
All athletes (anyone for that matter) will benefit from a nutritionists. However, Oden eating a burrito is not cause for concern. At his age and size, he will burn off that burrito playing ‘guitar hero’ for an hour. It would take me a full week at the gym…as soon as I make it to the gym.
Just get Oden back as soon as possible. Even though he did not score, you could see how much space he takes. On the injury play, no one would even go near him while he was jumping around until Bynum finally threw him to the floor (look closely, Oden did not just fall).
Fastbreak did look pitiful. That will change.
As everyone says, we our a very young team. That was only Brandon’s and Lamarcus’ third opening NBA night. We were all nervous all day before the game. Imagine how they felt. I think everything was just a case of the nerves.
I hope he dosen't play DDR
for an hour to burn off that burrito…
Ball Don't Lie
by bothteamsplayedhard on Oct 30, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
If he wants to be something special, or mean anything to this team… He will use this as an opportunity to get in shape physically, mentally and not sit on his ass.
Dear God... Please bless Greg Oden with health. Let him heal, get into shape Physically and Mentally. The City of Portland deserves him
Great analysis Dave
As usual.
Your points about Greg’s diet and regimen are particularly apt.
If Greg is ever going to become even half the presence on the court that fans want (or expect), then he is going to have to become very serious about his diet. From what I have read Greg is almost totally clueless about nutrition and diet. He needs to go from clueless to scrupulous immediately… yesterday… should have been strict about it years ago with his huge frame.
The perfect is the enemy of the good.
right with you
especially on #1. I cringed when we posted up Oden- we should do this occasionally, but not a lot. Early in games, the ball needs to go to LaMarcus. All the time.
Boomshakalaka
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Are the Blazers really not hiring a nutritionist? Buy him food, whatever the hell you have to do to get your multi million dollar investment/franchise saver in shape physically & mentally.
Start Sergio. Blake can't run the fast break for ****
by TheGreatDane17 on Oct 30, 2008 10:49 AM PDT reply actions
No Panic
First, I agree with Dave. Sure, we got a proverbial shock into reality. But, Mac had a very choppy pre-season. Blake, Frye, and Fernandez, missed quite a bit of it, Webster disappeared entirely, Outlaw wasn’t in as good a shape as he could have been, and Roy and Oden were working the kinks out of injuries. Then toss a couple of other new rookies in Bayless and Batum into the mix, and 9 players were affected in one way or another.
As far as Oden – I suspect he gets advice on food. As far as Sergio vs. Bayless, rather than going ballistic, perhaps everyone should read Mac’s view of Bayless’s pre-season on OregonLive.
He is a better defender, offensively has more upside, worked very hard to make the adjustment to NBA – practicing with coaches until mid-night many nights, and repeatedly says that he knows he’s not the go-to guy. He, just like Mac, both understand that his weaknesses are his unfamiliarity with the NBA and Mac’s system, and the fact that he hasn’t had a lot of playing time as a PG. Hence, his vision and understanding of the flow of the game aren’t as good as Sergio’s.
In terms of Oden – come on. In 13 or 14 minutes he pulled down 5 rebounds and blocked 1 shot. If he actually had played 30 minutes or so he would’ve had 2-3 blocks and 12 or so rebounds.
And if you think his debut was choppy – go look at his competition. Beaseley shot 4 for 14, had 4 rebounds, scored 9 points, and played almost 27 minutes.
This kid has had the weight of the world dumped on him.
Mac was talked about as a top 5 coach before the game – and he still is
by Eben Calder on Oct 30, 2008 11:57 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
WHY THE %#$! NOT?!

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