Breaking News: Semi-Official (Now Completely Official) Word on Oden
by Dave on Oct 29, 2008 5:21 PM PDT
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Foot sprain. 2-4 weeks recovery.
This is from one of our sources. Obviously every "inside" piece of info will be looked at with some suspicion until the official news breaks but I can tell you that this source is nearly as impeccable as they come and hasn't been wrong in my experience, which is why I'm posting this.
My initial reaction: all this means is that Greg will miss the brutal part of the schedule where we wouldn't have won much anyway.
--Dave
Update: This has been confirmed by John Canzano on 95.5.
Update #2--Official Word from the Blazers
MRI AND CAT SCAN CONFIRMS ODEN FOOT SPRAIN
PORTLAND, Ore. - A Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) and Computerized Axial Tomography (CAT) Scan today confirmed Portland Trail Blazers center Greg Oden has a mid-lateral right foot sprain.
The MRI revealed a couple of avulsions that are not believed serious and do not require surgery.
Oden is expected to be out 2-4 weeks.
The injury occurred during the first quarter of Portland's Tuesday night game at the Los Angeles Lakers.
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can you tell us who told you? we’re obviously tired of not hearing news from canzano
JAH
by abetterbomb on Oct 29, 2008 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, can't do that
But I can tell you:
1. I never post stuff to get ratings or to play games. You’ve not seen me do this much. That should mean something.
2. I’ve not known this source to be wrong.
—Dave
by Dave on Oct 29, 2008 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is to say
I would not have posted it unless I was all but sure this is what’s going to come out. Of course there’s always a .01 chance of something being different or some wires getting crossed, but the chance really is that low. I figured having the info in your hands was of greater benefit than the risk that it was wrong…and I am quite conservative in making these judgments usually.
—Dave
by Dave on Oct 29, 2008 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why they pay you the big bucks dave ;)
lol…na man, I appriciate 100% of the stuff you get, and don’t give a hoot if you got it from a hoot.
if dave posts it, it’s reliable….otherwise we wouldn’t all be her postin 50 comments per min……
The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)
by faith on Oct 29, 2008 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is what I care about
I want this to be a site where if you read it, you know it’s true. I value that far more than “breaking” stories. Being first doesn’t mean as much when it’s all over the world five minutes later. Being accurate counts in this day and age.
That said, sometimes we are fortunate enough to be able to get the story first as well, which is fine. I just find it more important for you guys to be able to say, “I trust this” than to say, “Guess what I heard?!?!?”
—Dave
by Dave on Oct 29, 2008 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whew....
……k…we can now go to defcon 3…….
The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)
by faith on Oct 29, 2008 5:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dave had it before Canzano.
That makes me happy
by Cablinasian on Oct 29, 2008 5:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
from Casey I bet...
There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)
My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons
by johnv59 on Oct 29, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2-4 weeks?
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
by twiggs on Oct 29, 2008 5:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i don't find this too encouraging
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 29, 2008 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on man
be optimistic or you will be considered unrealistic.
by RipCity on Oct 29, 2008 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude
this guy keeps getting injured, that’s a fact… can you tell me something that differs??
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 29, 2008 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He rolled his foot
If you play basketball that is going to happen sometime
by tingeyga on Oct 29, 2008 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i played ball all the way to JC. seen and had alot of rolled ankles.
but no rolled foots.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep - i played 2 years in college
and also haven’t seen this much injury to one person before
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 29, 2008 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your career was charmed then
A rolled ankle/foot happens every week in the NBA.
Just unfortunate/unlucky it happened to super hyped big man Greg Oden, who also happens to be coming off a bad knee injury.
by Mortimer on Oct 29, 2008 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets take away injury prone
and simply say this hurts his progress……..He is out of shape and not game shape at all….this makes big men (or anyone, but more so to big men [a simple law of physics] )get injuries that they may not get if in top condition…mind you I say may not get…..he is on a roller coaster, so to speak, in that he needs to play to get in game shape and he is not playing…when he comes back, he will not be in good shape and will be at more of a risk of getting hurt……
But then, when he gets hurt again, you have to re-apply injury prone and it will be that way until proven otherwise……this is sad, sour grapes, or whatever you choose to call it….but it is the truth….and the players know this, so they are planning on playing without him….they have already played a year without him…so they must move on with that in mind…..
by 67 on Oct 29, 2008 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop Babying him
You know, I feel like we have been so overprotective of Oden and him getting injured. I think he should come back asap from this injury. He should play 10 min in the first possible game. You can push ankles, unlike other injuries (microfracture surgery) where you need to take a lot of time. Give him one week and then see what he can do. He will get hurt again. He needs to start playing through stuff, and get used to not thinking about being injured. Rather than thinking about protecting him, we need to be thinking about unleashing him. Ever since he had MF surgery, it has always been “keep him in bubble wrap and take him out for the game!” Seriously, he will be fine.
by UGotThrilled on Oct 29, 2008 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am actually really proud of him
for playing after rolling his ankle so badly. That is the exact attitude he needs if he is going to be effective
by UGotThrilled on Oct 29, 2008 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
There was someone who seemed very familiar with this type injury posting earlier. He said these “avulsions” usually heal just fine without surgery—unless you don’t allow them sufficient healing time.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Oct 29, 2008 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Found that post
It’s by “Diesel10”—far below. There’s a more recent response to it by Idog.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Oct 29, 2008 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
could be a lot worse.
bummer though.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Oct 29, 2008 5:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This isn't good news..
people try to find the positives, but let’s be honest and say this SUCKS
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 29, 2008 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good? Bad? Depends on expectations
If you thought he’d be playing tomorrow, it’s bad news. If you thought the he might miss half the season or more, it would be good news… We might want to consider our entire distribution of beliefs, but that’s way too much info.
by PoliSam on Oct 29, 2008 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about all of you.
But I am ECSTATIC that he is only out 2-4 weeks.
by Cablinasian on Oct 29, 2008 5:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I was preparing myself for another redshirt season.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Oct 29, 2008 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many tough teams would that be?
"All our holes," says shooting guard Brandon Roy, a surprise All-Star last year in his second season, "are holes that Greg is going to plug."
by bowdown on Oct 29, 2008 5:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Now
let’s leave Oden alone and focus on winning without him
"It's amazing what a group of guys can accomplish when no one cares who gets credit."
President Harry S. Truman
by Dr. Deal on Oct 29, 2008 5:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Not bad, not bad at all!
We’re gonna suck these first two weeks anyways, and then Oden can come back early from the injury and look strong and mighty.
WOOOOOOOO!
by Mortimer on Oct 29, 2008 5:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats how I feel about it too
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
by twiggs on Oct 29, 2008 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
only bad thing is that he has to think about being injured some more
and I already priced that into my emotional stock market.
by PoliSam on Oct 29, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Morty
ASSUMING THAT THIS IS NOT A WARNING SIGN OF MORE INJURIES TO COME-
This could be a blessing in disguise for the following reasons:
A) This forces the rest of the team to step up their game and realize they can’t and shouldn’t rely on Oden to win games for them.
B) This potentially moves the media spot light off of Oden as he won’t be on prime time banging with the leagues best big men.
C) Relieves the pressure off Oden as he is declared a bust and the national media move one.
D) Allows Oden to come back and dominate versus lesser big men as he plays his way back into shape allowing him to ease into the league instead of the hideous trial by fire that had been planned for him.
Now mind you I don’t see this as a great thing but I see some silver linings here.
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
by Idog1976 on Oct 29, 2008 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
k....
I’m gonna scream PAIN KILLERS!!!! shots?
does anyone have a good opinion on this?
If he played on it, can he hurt himself more?
The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)
by faith on Oct 29, 2008 5:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Depending on the injury
Sure, he could hurt himself more.
by Mortimer on Oct 29, 2008 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want him hurt,
but could he just have a real low threshold for pain? I know people that have really high ones, and alot of people who don’t.
I don’t mean anything ill by it, cuz that one picture in the game summary of how ugly it looked all bent and what not, but….if it’s a minor sprain….2-4 weeks?… I’m not talking like 20-30 min, but just enough to keep him active 5-10 min max..and so he don’t get too ……bummed.. :)
The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)
by faith on Oct 29, 2008 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A response
…G.O. played in the NCAA with a broken hand (wrist?) and shot with his off-hand. I’d say that indicates a pretty good tolerance for pain. I understand the frustration. I’ve played (soccer) hurt (torn achilles) and it doesn’t do anyone any good.
by DonkeyShins on Oct 29, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah....
I should be smacked around for that hu?….my bad….
god I’m getting good at that….(removing foot from mouth.
The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)
by faith on Oct 29, 2008 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No worries
I’ve known you for a while on B.E. and you’ve always come across as a level-headed dude. This just (unfortunately) cuts a little close to the bone history-wise.
Look on the bright side, at least Greg didn’t injure his huevos like Joel did last year.
by DonkeyShins on Oct 29, 2008 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good News?
I completely disagree. Good news would have been having him back in the starting lineup on Friday. You guys are all dillusional. We still have an injury prone big guy.
by GoBlazersWIN on Oct 29, 2008 5:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Or...
…a dude who stepped on a foot and twisted the ankle.
There is a difference.
Look— Oden got hurt in a real normal way for a b-baller to get hurt. Because it is Oden and we all worry I am glad it isn’t too bad.
by Mortimer on Oct 29, 2008 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OR
this guy’s been injured his WHOLE NBA Career.
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 29, 2008 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So was Roy
His rookie year.
That was a wierd injury too that couldn’t be helped.
If Oden’s knee goes out AGAIN or his wrist, then we worry.
If he steps on a foot he needs to get his ankles stronger, but it’s a NORMAL injury— not a brittleness injury.
by Mortimer on Oct 29, 2008 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love your rules on degrees of worry
but i can’t agree with you…
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 29, 2008 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you play a lot of basketball you are almost certainly
at some point going to get hurt like Oden did. It isn’t like he messed up his foot riding a moped.
by tingeyga on Oct 29, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worrying point is that hasn't all of his recent injuries been on that right side?
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he had more than 2 injuries that would be in issue
by tingeyga on Oct 29, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not counting the sprained ankle as an injury?
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Knee+Foot=2
Forgot about the wrist, but that happened 2+ years ago so I don’t think that it really qualifies as recent. But if you figure that you are equally likely to roll your left foot as you are your right, then there really isn’t much to worry about.
by tingeyga on Oct 29, 2008 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
I came down for a rebound once in a pickup game in grad school and almost rolled my ankle. I managed to prevent that, but in the process, managed to sever my ACL.
Granted, I’m not an NBA player, but I’m also not 285 pounds and my legs are stronger than my upper body.
by DonkeyShins on Oct 29, 2008 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was terrible news when he got hurt
It’s good new that he’s only out 2-4 weeks.
by KobeStoppa on Oct 29, 2008 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe next season the NBA
will think twice when they line up all the top centers in the league for us to play in a row to start the season.
by JoeBlazer on Oct 29, 2008 5:29 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Put it in perspective.
If this were Aldridge, Outlaw, Bayless, etc., then this would be considered minor.
by Cablinasian on Oct 29, 2008 5:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope---- this team is a bunch of injured people
trying to win a basketball game.
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 29, 2008 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey you!
Yeah you…stop posting like such a downer, are you a L*ker fan or something?
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
by twiggs on Oct 29, 2008 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not working out for 4 weeks could be a bigger problem than missing the games nm
by Lu on Oct 29, 2008 5:35 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Working out for 4 weeks...
When has he ever worked out 4 consecutive weeks without injury?
by GoBlazersWIN on Oct 29, 2008 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its ok
the positive is everybody was worried about minutes now we have more of them. If you want Rudy to play more maybe Roy should get injured and Rudy can have his minutes.
by RipCity on Oct 29, 2008 5:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When greg comes back...
I hope he comes off of the bench for the first few months
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 5:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
KP still maintains that greg is one of the 'big three'...yet he says people are
too quick to annoint him as savior. Some irony there.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 5:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
well he said
that he values all players equal and Oden and 15 player Randolph all one team.
by RipCity on Oct 29, 2008 5:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
KP has had a tough day
He just said “As important as Greg is, so is Randolph”. I think he meant he cares about all of the players health.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 29, 2008 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you bench a guy that is injured?
by PoliSam on Oct 29, 2008 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Simple
How else are all injured players benched?
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 29, 2008 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah dude
you are wasting your time…
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
by twiggs on Oct 29, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know KP
he talks in general terms. He sounds really angry too as blazers fans. He guarantees that the team will play different in the opening night. Canzano is pushing KP.
by RipCity on Oct 29, 2008 5:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kp
sounds hurt when Canzano said that some fans think it was a wrong choice to draft Oden.
by RipCity on Oct 29, 2008 5:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wow - that's going a bit deep with the GM
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 29, 2008 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Canzano
In his efforts to be the “tough – hard hitting” reporter, he often neglects to remember that you need to have a heart, too.
The great reporters are unflappable and empathetetic at the same time.
by 22 on Oct 29, 2008 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2-4 weeks?
I can totally handle that. I was fearing a fracture or something of that nature. What a relief……
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by iDea on Oct 29, 2008 5:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ironic...
that it really looked like a lack of footwork was what was keeping him from finishing offensively last night.
by 22 on Oct 29, 2008 5:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
im just worried
that oden wont be able to show his true skills and dominance this season due to all these little injuries and conditioning issues
by Yawnie on Oct 29, 2008 5:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was always going to be true
You would not have seen the full Greg Oden this season even without this extra month. His knee and conditioning still aren’t all the way there.
—Dave
by Dave on Oct 29, 2008 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 to 4 weeks plus X weeks to
get back to the shape he was in last night, which was still not full game shape.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Oct 29, 2008 5:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OK
So my comments are removed (sorry for getting upset).
That guy just makes me ANGRY!
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
by twiggs on Oct 29, 2008 6:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Your comments weren't deleted
But when a flagged comment goes everything in the thread that is subordinate to it goes also, thus your stuff went along with the offensive material.
—Dave
by Dave on Oct 29, 2008 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I gotcha
Thanks Dave
I thought I was reasonable in what I was saying!
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
by twiggs on Oct 29, 2008 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
KPsa
said that Oden is special. But come on I know what he means but thats not what I want to hear. Cuz Oden is special But not in the good way. Like he is special in getting injured. I know its cruel but that what comes up in my mind when KP says that Oden is special.
by RipCity on Oct 29, 2008 6:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oden is a great!
He’ll be a good backup to Joel this season. Tons of potential to start someday, Though. :)
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon man
Just because he doesn’t return your calls…or your MySpace posts…or your emails…or your Yardbarker posts…and he put a restraining order on you…is no reason for you to call him a jerk.
by DonkeyShins on Oct 29, 2008 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, that's great
Morti-man, you know you want to have 5 million of Oden’s babies.
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
by twiggs on Oct 29, 2008 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol...
Send greg Love and happy thoughts. :)
he’ll get better sooner.
The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)
by faith on Oct 29, 2008 6:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
let's not forget what happened to bill walton
who was definitely considered “injury-prone” and a bust after two years as a blazer in which he never played more than half a season — then his first full year he pushed the team to its only championship. the next year they started 50-10, he hurt his foot, felt pressured to come back in the playoffs and “play with pain” and he was never the same.
ever. he could never jump and was never light on his feet again. and he (perhaps rightly) blamed the blazers for pushing him to come back before he should have. kp knows this history. everyone here should too.
ignacio
by ignacio on Oct 29, 2008 6:05 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Well said
from the original BE’er!
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
by Idog1976 on Oct 29, 2008 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
rawr!
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 6:06 PM PDT reply actions 8 recs
Rec'd
I do love that we always have Joel
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
by twiggs on Oct 29, 2008 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol Shralp, i just got that.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
avulsion?
somebody who’s gotta degree wanna decipher that grey block in the main post? Please?
The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)
by faith on Oct 29, 2008 6:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Avulsion
An avulsion fracture is when a small piece of the bone where a tendon or ligament is attached gets pulled off. Basically, there’s some serious force placed on that attachment point usually from a twisting that pulls the tendon/ligament farther than it’s supposed to or can go. Something has to give, and it can be a small piece of the bone at that attachment point. In the mid-foot, it’s often the bone because there are numerous thick layers of tendon and ligament webbing them together.
I had an avulsion of my medial ankle due to a pronation sprain. (I was playing ultimate frisbee and landed wrong, rolled my foot “in” instead of the more usual “outward” roll. Very very painful.) The x-rays showed a small sliver of bone that had become detached, but the deltoid ligament was intact, which was the important part. In my x-ray, it looked like a small fingernail clipping.
In the foot, you don’t have to worry too much about the bones moving around, because there’s not much room to move around and because there are so many structural elements in there to keep things in place. Because of that, unless there are really severe fractures, immobilizing and resting the foot will allow the bones to knit back where they should be. There’s no structural damage to the bones right now, because it’s just a thin layer of the bone that gets pulled off. In fact, the bone knitting process can actually make the affected area stronger.
It sounds bad, but it’s actually a fairly common injury with a straightforward treatment and very good recovery results. This is not something to be significantly worried about right now. That being said, if he’s rushed back, it could become chronic. (Personally, I’m very confident that the Blazers will be very, very careful with his return.)
< /war >
by Diesel10 on Oct 29, 2008 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
THANK YOU!
For this excellent, insightful and informed post. This is the kind of information that I like to see put up. This is in my opinion the best comment for understanding what we are dealing with. Thanks Diesel10 you made my night. +1
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
by Idog1976 on Oct 29, 2008 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
rock'n good. thanks.
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
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by Y5k on Oct 30, 2008 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing Dave and KP cleared things up
My sources were telling me GO would be out for 8 to 12 years. Bad sources! Naughty sources!
by shralpster on Oct 29, 2008 6:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
god there were a lot of "bad" sources today
Rip City Baby...People have no idea what is coming.
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by lanepete on Oct 29, 2008 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
8 to 12 years or 8 to 12 months?
Greg looks old now, in 8 to 12 years he will look like Abe Lincoln.
by richarda97 on Oct 29, 2008 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe ill go create a working greg oden (Sans injuries)
in Little Big Planet…..
Rip City Baby...People have no idea what is coming.
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by lanepete on Oct 29, 2008 6:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What the Sam Hill is goin' on?
This blog is jumpin’ around like a jeep full o’ jack rabbits in an earthquake. I was trying to flag hotstuffdb22 as a troll, but the actions button didn’t work. Jeepers, but all the trolls seem to have come out from under some rock at once. Pretty disgusting.
Okay, so Greg is out for a while. On a personal note I am REALLY disappointed because I was psyched up to see his debut in person this Friday. So I guess I’ll miss that little bit of history. But, anyhow, I’m thankful that he’ll be back before too long.
The Blazers are better than they showed last night. Yeah, those other guys are pretty good, but I think they’ll have some serious respect for the Blazers before the season is through. And I’m still planning for a victory celebration on Friday.
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by CatMan2 on Oct 29, 2008 6:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I got mad at hotstuff
Real mad.
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
by twiggs on Oct 29, 2008 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhhh...
Maybe the women insult comments?
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
by twiggs on Oct 29, 2008 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK...now you are getting emotional.
Nay, hysterical!
(it’s a joke…for the love of god, it’s a joke!)
by DonkeyShins on Oct 29, 2008 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah yeah :)
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
by twiggs on Oct 29, 2008 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for having a sense of humor
We need that right about now. The whole injury situation with the Blazers feels like one too many punches to the gut.
by DonkeyShins on Oct 29, 2008 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And a swift kick in the knee cap
I have a problem with knees
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
by twiggs on Oct 29, 2008 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as...
it isn’t a knee in the man-candies. We had enough of that with Joel last year.
by DonkeyShins on Oct 29, 2008 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I almost got mad at him
then I realized it wasn’t worth my time to type a response and moved on.
by KobeStoppa on Oct 29, 2008 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like we were all caught up in the fight scene from Anchorman
Wow, that got out of hand really fast.
by KobeStoppa on Oct 29, 2008 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
I apologize for all comments that provoked negative responses.
I apologize.
Can we get along still and love the Blazers?
twiggs – I’m sorry – I hope you accept this
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 29, 2008 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, we can all get along
It’s the internet. I don’t know you, no reason to hold a grudge.
Just remember to take a deep breath and think about how people will interpret your message before you post it.
by KobeStoppa on Oct 29, 2008 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
twiggs -
can you accept my apology??
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 29, 2008 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't hold grudges-
Just be really careful about what you say (or how you say it). We are friendly on here, but we don’t take kindly to pointless insults.
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
by twiggs on Oct 29, 2008 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love that cancel button....it's cool.
it’s like….the little cousin that keeps saying….we got to go home…we got to go home…
and I was like..no we got to catch a big fish….a real big one…then we can go home….but it alway’s get’s dark, then we end up walkin in the dark…..but usually the little cousins are right about things like that…so….the cancel button is my friend….I think I should have pushed it again here, but…ah what the heck. :)
The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)
by faith on Oct 29, 2008 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I stabbed a man in the heart.
Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.
by DonkeyShins on Oct 29, 2008 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he was really pathetic
He kept saying, “Bench Oden,” and people kept ignoring him. That’s sad when you’re even a failure at being a troll.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Oct 29, 2008 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude-
i just recognized my faults… why can’t you lay off a bit?
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 29, 2008 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No piling on intended
I posted that before I read your apology.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Oct 29, 2008 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the past
If hotstuff is apologizing, let it go. We all get worked up when stressed, eh? And this Oden thing has caused enough stress for a couple of seasons at least.
—Dave
by Dave on Oct 29, 2008 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
amen
btw, where ya livin these days, Dave?
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In limbo
until Oden gets back and healthy.
—Dave
by Dave on Oct 29, 2008 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hear that Dave
I hear that.
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
by Idog1976 on Oct 29, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so he and oden are jerks
according to Mortimer Oden is a jerk and you say that someone else is a jerk. They both should be out of Blazers fans life.
by RipCity on Oct 29, 2008 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Martell and Greg come back...
Hopefully Greg comes off of the bench to stuff back all of those missed 22 ft. leaners Travis takes.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 6:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You're another guy pushing the envelope
It seems that most of the people who really know basketball — and frankly, I’m NOT one of them — don’t disagree about Greg’s ability to dominate a game at both ends of the floor. There’s simply no question of Greg being Joel’s backup. I believe that comments like yours are just intended to stir things up. You are trolling.
Palin drone: a statement that is equally nonsensical whether uttered or written forward or backward.
by CatMan2 on Oct 29, 2008 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To the contrary.
Having played JC ball. I do know a thing or two about basketball. Ability is not the end all, be all that makes a good player. Consistency and reliability also go into the equation. Greg has shown none of those. And the lack of those two variables can disrupt a starting lineup. I know. I’ve felt it firsthand.
With that said. I love Greg Oden and his potential. But aside from the hype, he’s just not ready to be an NBA starting center just yet.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greg
plays better offense than Joel.
Greg is close to joel on D.
Greg will start, maybe after 1-2 games when he’s back, and that’s a big maybe. Otherwise he starts. :)
The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)
by faith on Oct 29, 2008 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry - Greg's barely in game shape now.
Are you saying he will be in 4 weeks from now? Please explain.
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by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO.
The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)
by faith on Oct 29, 2008 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah ok ;)
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do agree with you to some extent
Might as well let him take it slow so he doesn’t get overwhelmed out there. Let him work his way into game shape from the bench against backup centers to build his confidence. We’re not gonna win a championship this year.
That being said I wouldn’t keep him behind Joel for more than 2 weeks. That should be plenty of time to at least near game shape.
by KobeStoppa on Oct 29, 2008 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
Well I notice that you didn’t just join BE since last night, so I’ll cut you some slack. However, think about how it seems to people: Oden is injured, everyone is bummed because of that and the blowout loss to those other guys, and you go on suggesting in so many words that Oden isn’t really good enough anyway. IMO, besides being wrong, you are saying things guaranteed to annoy or anger many of the rest of us.
Palin drone: a statement that is equally nonsensical whether uttered or written forward or backward.
by CatMan2 on Oct 29, 2008 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are absolutely correct. In as many words, i have announced that Greg Oden
is not a world beater. There you have it. Tons of potential and that’s all that it is until he can finish a game or two.
Listen to my argument for having Greg coming off of the bench for at least the short term:
a) it stabilizes the starting lineup until Greg can prove he can stay healthy.
b) allows him to work his way back into game shape
c) KP says most of greg’s pressure comes within – does coming off of the bench help him relieve some of that?
amiright?
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are just assuming that Oden will continue to be injured
If Brandon comes back from an injury, or LMA does, do they work their way back into the starting lineup by first coming off the bench for a while? No, as soon as they can play, they’re back to starting. If you watched the preseason games, it was pretty obvious how Oden radically changed the game whenever he was in there. He’s a game-changer. Joel is a great center to have as a backup, but he has such a limited offensive presence. The Blazers will be a better team with Greg Oden in the middle.
Greg knows he is going to be a starter. you can’t be drafted #1 overall and not start. And he knows there are expectations. Those come with the territory. He just needs to play for a while and settle down. He will be fine.
Palin drone: a statement that is equally nonsensical whether uttered or written forward or backward.
by CatMan2 on Oct 29, 2008 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Points well taken.
But yes. I would expect that if Roy or LA came back from injuries not in game shape, i would assume they’d come off of the bench for their 1st few games. Perhaps you are assuming GO comes back in game shape. I suppose that’s where you and i differ.
I totally agree with you that Joel has a limited offensive presence. But i must also believe that 1 year later – Blake, Roy, and Aldridge are improved players this year, no?
That alone should make the starting lineup better than last year.
“You can’t be drafted #1 overall and not start” – CatMan2. And therein lies the the discrepancy between you and i. Idealism vs. Realism :(
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can absolutely be drafted #1 and not start
Kwame Brown, Michael Olowkandi, but lets hope it never gets there.
CatMan2, don’t forget Aldridge was #2 and didn’t start his first year. He’s doing just fine. I’m sure he enjoyed the time coming off the bench while he got comfortable with his shoulder.
Of course, we weren’t gonna bench Z-Bo no matter what. But the point is, coming off the bench to enter the league won’t ruin your career. Give the big man time to get used to the game & maybe build his confidence against some backups.
I’m not saying coming off the bench is the only option, but it wouldn’t be the end of the world.
by KobeStoppa on Oct 29, 2008 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
KobeStoppa... well written
+1
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there you go
he just needs to play for awhile……Lets see…so far he has played 15 minutes…and this is his second year….Yup, I agree, he just needs to play ….so I guess he better start playing hurt or he will never get to prove himself
by 67 on Oct 29, 2008 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JC Ball is great
Hey, you know Ruben Patterson? He’s in the NBA and I wouldn’t be surprised to find out he is mentally retarded.
Playing HS, JC, Duke, NBA doesn’t make one an expert and is a silly thing to hang over an argument as if it clinches it.
Greg Oden, even out of shape, is a lot better than Joel Przybilla. I love Joel Przybilla, and he has experience and great rebounding. He’s a tough defender who can’t cover a lot of ground. He has the worst hands of any of our starting centers in recent memory. He disrupts our offense so much that both of our stars are constantly double teamed because there is no reason to guard Joel— even with an open dunk, it’s not unlikely that he’ll biff it.
In the pre-season game against the Clippers, I saw Oden do things and affect the game so much that it would be the crowning achievement of Joel Przybilla’s season. And Oden is an extremely raw (for him) 20 year old rookie who is out of shape.
I’m sorry, you do not start a good backup over GREG ODEN just because you know Joel will give you 4 points and 8 boards, when Oden can average a double double in the same minutes.
I do not want to make fun of Joel, but he is nowhere close to as good as Oden will be and I do not think his positives outweigh Oden’s positives right NOW— and when you factor in the future, it’s not even close.
JC Ball is good, I’m sure you learned a lot, but no level of basketball makes one such an expert that it precludes any disagreement with that person. It’s a very lame trump card.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Oct 30, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad it's "only" 2-4 weeks.
Oden has the potential to be a great player, someday. Perhaps this will ease some of the pressure off him.
by Avoozl on Oct 29, 2008 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmm. i believe most of greg's pressure comes from within. the way to relieve that is to have him come off of the bench when he comes back.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
erggg...
no that is not a misspelling of the unit of energy, the erg, but is my frustration that I will be driving 6_ hrs each way this weekend not to see Greg Oden take on Shaq. Maybe I will at least get the consolation prize of Shaq awkwardly falling down on Pryz
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
by jonestr on Oct 29, 2008 6:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the best thing to do as a Blazer fan is watch the team as if there was never a Greg Oden. Then
in 2-3 weeks when he is back we can say, “Oh cool, a great team now we’re upgrading at the center position.” Hopefully the hype will have died down and we play a scrub team on the road on basic cable. He needs some low key games to build confidence.
by BRoyInThe4th on Oct 29, 2008 6:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
holy crap, in layman's terms...
An avulsion fracture is a bone fracture which occurs when a fragment of bone tears away from the main mass of bone as a result of physical trauma. This can occur at the ligament due to the application forces external to the body (such as a fall or pull) or at the tendon due to a muscular contraction that is stronger than the forces holding the bone together. Generally muscular avulsion is prevented due to the neurological limitations placed on muscle contractions. Highly trained athletes can overcome this neurological inhibition of strength and produce a much greater force output capable of breaking or avulsing a bone.
If the fracture is small, it is usually sufficient to treat with rest and support bandage, but in more severe cases surgery may be required. Ice may be used to relieve
by blazersunited on Oct 29, 2008 6:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
Wikipedia for the win?
Beaver believer!
by mannyfresh1 on Oct 29, 2008 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I tried to include the link, but my formatting is weak. Like my kung fu.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avulsion_fracture
< /war >
by Diesel10 on Oct 29, 2008 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i never claimed for it to be original
and i didn’t know i was handing in a research paper. i thought this was a fan forum. my bad.
by blazersunited on Oct 30, 2008 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
He’s just playing with ya!
Morty
by Mortimer on Oct 30, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a little snark
I was playing. Only because I recognized the text from having looked at the exact same source not 3 minutes earlier. But, if you are going to quote whole hog from somewhere, even Wikipedia, you ought to include a link.
Thanks for trying to educate folks about an avulsion.
< /war >
by Diesel10 on Oct 30, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Knicks blowing out Miami
rough shooting nights for Beasley and Wade.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Oct 29, 2008 6:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He'll be back
Oden will be back before the two weeks are up.
by damir on Oct 29, 2008 6:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thunder getting blown out by the Bucks
Spencer Hawes with a double double but Minnesota leads Sac.
Phoenix with a 6 point lead over San Antonio.
Utah and Denver in a good one early.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Oct 29, 2008 6:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank god
Its not major. I don’t want him sitting on the couch though.
Get in the Gym. Get in shape. Get in mental shape. Come back when you are ready.
Dear God... Please bless Greg Oden with health. Let him heal, get into shape Physically and Mentally. The City of Portland deserves him
by TheGreatDane17 on Oct 29, 2008 6:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey is Carmelo hurt?
He’s not in the Utah-Denver boxscore.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Oct 29, 2008 6:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
carmelo anthony
is suspended if i remember correctly
by Yawnie on Oct 29, 2008 6:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
a class act indeed
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From ESPN on carmelo anthony
The Denver Nuggets suspended NBA All-Star Carmelo Anthony for the first two games of next season as punishment for his April arrest on suspicion of drunken driving.
by Yawnie on Oct 29, 2008 6:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
all of that money and they cant pay for a driver. :(
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whats with the trolls today????
Man, one game and a minor injury and some people can’t get off the wagon soon enough. This is good news and the blazers will be fine with or without Oden. Of course, we would be a lot finer with him….
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on Oct 29, 2008 7:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Whatcha mean? I just sent out my Przybilla jersey
to be pressed for Friday night!
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by Net Ranger on Oct 29, 2008 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet this is just the start of the "obtain Ricky Rubio" conspiracy...
"People? You man Sheeple."
by Mike-Fu on Oct 29, 2008 8:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey. I know!!
Let’s trade RLEC for Eddie Curry! D’Antoni isn’t gonna play him at all and he’s just sitting on the bench.
Am I kidding? Probably.
The perfect is the enemy of the good.
by fisheyes on Oct 29, 2008 10:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I picture a quarter-inch stack of papers sitting on the Knicks bench where Curry once was.
RLEC isn’t getting much playing time, but at least he (it) isn’t disruptive in the lockeroom.
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
by Y5k on Oct 30, 2008 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Worries...
I’m seriously not worried right now, I think Greg will be fine and yes he will be out of shape a little more but not as much as some people are saying. I mean he just sprained his foot, he can still work out and and we all know that he will, his game shape won’t be much worse than it was last night.
by BlazerFan88 on Oct 29, 2008 10:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
free throws anyone?
The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)
by faith on Oct 29, 2008 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where's the rum bottle ...
… I’m taking it to bed tonight.
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
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by Y5k on Oct 30, 2008 10:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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