Game 1 Recap: Blazers 76, L*kers 96
Well, that was not pleasant.
But then again, it was not wholly unexpected. Maybe we didn’t foresee getting creamed that bad but Portland has always had a harder time in Los Angeles than they have at home and blowout losses to the L*kers are not unheard of, even in otherwise good years. If you want the long and the short of the game, look more to
Obviously the story of the night is Greg Oden’s foot, which goes well beyond the game. I haven’t heard any concrete news, inside or in public, other than what you have: some kind of foot pain, probably a sprain, X-rays inconclusive, MRI tomorrow. People are already beginning to jump off bridges just as they did with the Brandon Roy surgery this summer. I don’t know what to say other than I can’t go there anymore because it’s just too crazy and exhausting. It’s probably a minor deal. If it’s not a minor deal the worst case scenario is probably that Greg is out another few weeks, misses the devastating early part of the schedule, and returns when things get easier for us anyway. Until we hear more it’s impossible to judge more. I can already hear the cries of “injury prone” which I don’t buy any more than I buy that the team is somehow cursed by the fates. You can’t call a guy injury prone based on a couple years. Also Oden’s injuries have all been different: wrist, knee, foot. This is not a Yao Ming situation where his body is so big that it rips up his feet in the same way every season. That’s a chronic injury. Wandering maladies to different parts of the body aren’t predictable so there’s no reason to assume they will continue throughout a career. That said, if there’s a broken bone in his foot it won’t be great news as the feet bone of big men take a notorious pounding. But until it’s proven to be something besides a sprain why not assume it’s just that?
As far as the game goes, we came out tight, switched to flat, poked our heads out like a post-winter groundhog for the predictable NBA “trailing team takes a stab” run, then faded faster than Gilligan’s hopes of getting lucky with Ginger. Much of the credit has to rest on the shoulders of our stalwarts, Lamarcus Aldridge and Brandon Roy, both of whom had subpar games. Be careful how much blame you assign and in what areas though. I think it’s fair to say both of them looked jittery. This is not entirely unheard of from Lamarcus but it was a shocker to see
Here’s what happened:
The L*kers locked down on
Now, here’s what’s going to happen pretty soon:
Opposing teams will try this dual-pronged assault against Roy and Aldridge. First of all it won’t work that well against
The key there is a little better offense for Oden, which means a little patience from all of us. It’s going to come. You just saw tonight that it obviously isn’t here yet. Even without that Oden offense we still could have compensated better tonight if the players understood better how to set each other up when they, personally were stymied. This is one of the perils of having a younger team, though. When things go south it’s hard for them to find a way out.
The offense really was the story of the game. Other than some inattention to getting back, letting a few transition buckets go and frustrating Nate, the defense really wasn’t that terrible. The Blazers did not commit a ton of fouls. 46.8% field goal percentage allowed isn’t great, but considering how the night was going it could have been 52% without much provocation, so you have to be satisfied with that for now. The one area where
Individual Notes:
--Brandon Roy had the stinkiest start to a game that I can ever remember him having. He came back to score 14 with 5 assists, 3 rebounds, and 3 steals. Even in semi-failure mode he’s decent. The whole team needs to learn that NBA goals can’t be achieved or lost in one night. The cliché is right: it’s a marathon, not a sprint.
--Lamarcus Aldridge came out with a ton of jumpers. He does have to play on the wing more with Oden in there but that doesn’t mean he has to finish every shot there. 4-12 and 8 points while letting Gasol go 7-10 for 15 isn’t the matchup we needed. Remember again: our guys are young and haven’t learned how to score consistently while under full, intense, NBA-level defense yet. We saw that tonight.
--Rudy Fernandez had 16 points on 5-10 shooting with 3-5 from beyond the arc. He also had 4 assists, 2 rebounds, and 2 steals. He looked great. But understand this also…he looked great in part because of the defensive attention that was being devoted elsewhere by the L*kers’ first unit and because the defense wasn’t as intense in the L*kers’ second unit. That is not to degrade Rudy’s performance at all. Rather it’s to say--lest anyone be tempted to crown him the best player on the team because he had the prettiest performance tonight--that had he been in
--I thought Oden’s game wasn’t bad…what we got to see of it anyway. 5 rebounds and a block in 13 minutes is OK. He looks slow out there but recall again the story I shared in the pre-game interview at ForumBlueandGold. I saw Amare Stoudemire recovering from his knee surgery at Summer League and he looked horrible. He was slow, heavy, and couldn’t jump an inch compared to normal. He’s pretty darn good now. The hard part about dealing with Oden’s game right now is his tardiness getting back, which puts even more pressure on our wing players to sprint down the court to prevent opposing fast breaks. However when Oden is in front of somebody they do have to go a long way to get around him even if he doesn’t block their shot every time.
--Travis Outlaw was exactly Travis Outlaw, no more…no less. On the bright side he scored 18 on 8-15 shooting and had 4 rebounds and 2 assists. He was one of the few semi-reliable offensive threats tonight. On the other hand it was Travis offense all the way, which means a lot of jumpers outside the flow of the team offense. Also, even though it’s not fair entirely to judge a guy on his ability to watch Kobe Bryant, I think Travis is showing he’s not going to be a great perimeter defender. This puts a serious crimp in the plans to feature him at small forward. You have to wonder if maybe he’s a combo forward off the bench, which puts him in direct competition with Channing Frye, which brings up even more questions about long-term futures on this team for those two players. We’ll have to watch and see how much success Travis has, if any, guarding threes. As far as starting him instead of Batum, this was an amazingly poor game to make judgments about in that regard. If anything I’d say this shows that when facing really good opponents we might not have any perfect options at small forward right now.
--Steve Blake played his usual game: 9 points on 3-6 from distance, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, only 1 turnover. He had trouble defending the perimeter and trouble getting his own shot when he was forced to.
--Joel Przybilla stepped in heroically for Greg Oden after the latter went down. This is just what you’d expect. He had 10 defensive rebounds and 11 overall. However you could see the offense just melt as the L*kers zeroed in even tighter on our main scorers with Joel in. It’s a cost-benefit thing that I think we’d come out on the winning end of for 20 minutes a game but not so much for 30-35. I will go on record right now saying I love Steve Blake and I love Joel Przybilla but I’m not so much in love with them in there together anymore. Teams are paying attention to us this year and the offense is going to get exposed. This also holds true to some extent for Sergio and Joel. It’s just hard playing two players out of five who have trouble getting their own shots.
--Channing Frye came in to make a difference but never got off the launching pad. It looked like he had worked on his jumper over the summer and wanted to come in and show it. He ended up 0-7 and 0-3 from three-point land. Personally I am comfortable with him not shooting three pointers even if he can hit them occasionally. Our team needs other things, like competent midrange play…and defense…and rebounds. Frye had 3 rebounds and 4 fouls in his 17 minutes.
--Jerryd Bayless got 15 minutes of garbage time to spread his wings. He got back on defense pretty well and had a couple of rebounds plus he was aggressive with the ball. He also had a couple of turnovers and missed 4 of 5 shots though. You get some slack in your rookie year so we won’t evaluate too much based on this one game.
--Sergio Rodriguez only got 5 minutes. He got a rebound, committed a turnover, collected a foul, and missed his only shot. I think maybe he wasn’t entirely diligent about his defensive positioning, which could explain his lack of minutes when the game was still in doubt. I’m a little surprised Bayless got all the garbage minutes though. It might not hurt to play both of them together if you’ll let Jerryd just be a scorer.
--Nic Batum, despite losing the starting nod, came in at the end of the game and played hard. He had 3 rebounds and a steal and hit his only shot in 4 minutes. We’ll see more of him.
--Ike Diogu was Ike Diogu: couple of minutes, couple of free throws, couple of rebounds. He just isn’t moving that well.
Random Thought:
A serious, withering pox on TNT for making us miss the starting tip of the season. Seriously, has any first game of a double-header ever finished on time in the history of their broadcasts? Can’t we just stagger the starts a tad more?
One-Sentence Game Summary:
Now that that’s out of the way, can we start the real season?
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
Comments
in summary....
we just plan sucked! Hopefully the guys will learn from it and be better prepared for the next game!
by Enigmah on Oct 28, 2008 11:57 PM PDT 0 recs
The real season indeed.
That was like….a bad dream before you wake up to play your first game
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Oct 28, 2008 11:58 PM PDT 0 recs
The shooting blew. The rest wasn't even bad and that's something to work from.
We were very close to the Lakers in rebounding (much better than e.g. against Utah in the preseason). Same with assists and steals, and we had less turnovers. All of these stats were not stellar, but okay. The shooting percentage and points given up on easy fast breaks in the paint were not.
The goal for the week is finding a way to get the “Big Three” working individually (especially LMA) and together on the court right from the start and not pull the rest of the team down. That should result in easier points/higher percentage shots on the first unit and thus more confident second unit guys not coming in when there is already a double-digit deficit. The Lakers today had the better game in both units, which was not according to plan.
Odenied: If you're given lemmings—make lemming-ade (Bow4Meow)
by Norsktroll on Oct 29, 2008 12:05 AM PDT 0 recs
Defense was pretty awful
The Lakers got whatever they wanted all night.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on
Oct 29, 2008 6:49 AM PDT
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Damn Dave
That was a lot to write in a short period of time. Pretty easy on the eyes, too. Props to you and thanks for the commentary!
Schonely got a raw deal. NO ONE gives Schonely a raw deal.
by OhOhOden on Oct 29, 2008 12:06 AM PDT 0 recs
Nate messed up
You can’t play the whole preseason developing confidence and chemistry with 2 specific units, then on the day of the first game, completely change both units with a single move. Travis Outlaw starting was just a pitiful use of our parts. His inefficient scoring, lack of passing, lack of defense and lack of general awareness really hurt this team on the first unit. He’d be able to get away with a lot of these problems better when placed on that second unit that runs. Batum would’ve been the perfect starting 3 despite his lack of experience. I don’t understand why Nate would devote so much time and energy developing our units, and this turn his back last second. He really looked beleaguered out there today. Not a single unit, or group of players looked good out there today. We have the players and talent there, and there are multiple groupings that can play winning basketball, but Nate put way too much emphasis today on experience and not nearly enough on chemistry. I hope in time Nate learns how to better run with lineups and player substitutions.
by as11osu on Oct 29, 2008 12:06 AM PDT 2 recs
I have to agree...
…starting Outlaw is perhaps the single biggest mistake I’ve ever seen McMillian make.
Not just that, but the stat line makes Outlaw look like he did much better than he actually did. He got several points in garbage time, and was taking some poor shots earlier.
I think it’s time we shopped Outlaw.
by JordanLeDoux on
Oct 29, 2008 1:15 AM PDT
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Hmmm
Looked to me like Outlaw, and Rudy, were the only players that weren’t intimidated and scared to be out there (at least until garbage time). This idea that the game turned out as it did because Nate (with the consult of the assistant coaches) decided to put Travis in the starting three slot is simply ridiculous. Now, I don’t think Travis is god’s gift to basketball, or he’s the best thing since sliced bread, but I will continue to support him against all the unfounded “group think” that seems to be the current fad. I disagree with Dave’s assesment of his defense last night too. Yes, Outlaw did get his ankles nearly broken on a couple baseline left rolls to the hoop by Kobe, but all in all he did as decent a job as could be expected against him. Nobody can contain Bryant one on one, period. I watched Travis play with a distinct eye for shot selection and “flow of the offense” and I challenge anybody to call him out on being out of the offense more than any of the other Blazer players (outside of perhaps Rudy) last night. Just because it’s trendy to say it doesn’t make it so…
The team played very tight from the beginning and despite Nate trying to take the blame for it, there’s only so much the coach can do to get them ready. He can’t go out there and play for them. I suspect it will be different on Friday back at the Rose Garden but we shall see…
by R11 on
Oct 29, 2008 10:41 AM PDT
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I and probably a couple others said the same thing in the gameday thread. The question on my mind would be, who comes from the bench to replace him and Roy on SG? Bayless?
Odenied: If you're given lemmings—make lemming-ade (Bow4Meow)
by Norsktroll on
Oct 29, 2008 12:21 AM PDT
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yeah i would play both roy and rudy heavier minutes, outlaw healthy minutes at the 3 rather any time at the 4 and then use bayless in whatever spots are left at the 2. give sergio a few more minutes at the 1.
honor terry porter
by Ben. on
Oct 29, 2008 12:23 AM PDT
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Ben, do you mean having Rudy replace Blake
in the black unit? Because that’s what I’m thinking, for at least some of the game. I really want to see him and Brandon play together. They’re both smart and mature, make good decisions with the ball, move well, etc. We should have our five best players on the black unit, and it’s obvious Nate isn’t comfortable with two rookies on that unit. Yes, I know Rudy is an NBA rookie, but he doesn’t play much like one, does he?
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on
Oct 29, 2008 10:04 AM PDT
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no…
blake/rudy/roy/aldridge/oden (or przy) depending on injury.
although i like your proposal better than blake/roy/outlaw/aldridge/oden (or przy)
honor terry porter
by Ben. on
Oct 29, 2008 10:36 AM PDT
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Here's a way to start Rudy without a 3rd SG
Roy normally plays about 38 minutes a game, resting for about 5 minutes at the start of the 2nd and 4th quarters. So play Rudy 6 minutes at the start of the 1st/3rd quarter (3-guard offense with Blake). Bring Rudy back when Roy is resting at the start of the 2nd/4th quarter. Play either a 3-guard offense with Rudy, or a 2 guard offense without Rudy, for about 3 minutes in mid 2nd/4th. Play Roy/Rudy at the 1/2 guards for about 4 minutes at the end of the 2nd/4th.
1st/3rd – 6 min PG/Roy/Rudy
- 6 min PG/Roy/SF
2nd/4th – 5 min PG/Rudy/SF
- 3 min PG/Roy/Rudy or PG/Roy/SF
- 4 min Roy/Rudy/SF
Total 3-guard offense 12 – 18 minutes
Total PG/SG/SF 36 – 30 minutes
Total Roy/Rudy at 1/2 guards 8 minutes
Total “other PG” for Blake/Bayless/Sergio 40 minutes
Total Roy 38 minutes
Total Rudy 30-36 minutes
by BlazerFanSince1970 on
Oct 29, 2008 3:14 AM PDT
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offense
On the other hand it was Travis offense all the way, which means a lot of jumpers outside the flow of the team offense.
Dave- could you or someone explain the flow of our offense? Having watched the team last year and again tonight, it seems that is exactly what we are lacking, a flow. Fundamentally, I think the Blazers need a point guard that opposing defenses take seriously as a threat to go to the basket. Your description of the Lakers game plan is correct. Jackson is smart, knowing that Blake cannot create, all you have to do is overplay BR and LmA. Oden is not going to put up big offensive numbers for quite some time.
Start Rudy at point. Or Roy. And develop a running game. If I see Steve Blake pull back to the three point line on a fast break one more time…In this league you have to take advantage of the opportunities you’re given.
by Blazin' on Oct 29, 2008 12:10 AM PDT 0 recs
LOL
Good point. I guess “flow of the offense” implies there was some, doesn’t it?
But seriously, we usually take “flow” to mean “smoothness”, of which there was little tonight. I guess I meant it more like “continuity” or “chain of motion”, both of which can be present even when the offense looks rough to the point of breaking apart.
Let’s say Brandon Roy is driving the ball on the way to putting up a shot. It may not be the right shot and he may be double-teamed, but usually he’s got enough escapability and has positioned himself well enough on the floor that he has options. He can put up this shot or that shot. He can go left or right. He can even opt to pass to the corner where Steve Blake is standing. That’s what I mean by “flow”. Both he and the ball have potential to go several places. The chain of motion has a chance to continue.
Outlaw, on the other hand, has a habit of maneuvering into situations where he doesn’t have options. If he retains the ball there’s only one shot. He basically only goes right because he doesn’t have a good left hand and the defender stands there playing him to the right. He can’t go any farther or escape. He gets in places on the court where there aren’t good, attacking passing angles either. The only pass he can make is a complete backwards bail-out. (And that after eating clock with the dribbling.) So his main option is to leap in the air, perhaps twist, and shoot. There’s no possible flow or continuity to anything else. That he hits those shots is much to his credit. That he HAS to hit those shots not so much. Either way there are no options. There’s no possible next step. So there’s no flow.
—Dave
by Dave on
Oct 29, 2008 12:23 AM PDT
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Outlaw does force a lot of shots
but did you see that 15-foot jump-brick Oden puked into the backboard? Made me cringe like a leaf of lettuce on a hot grill.
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on
Oct 29, 2008 10:08 AM PDT
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Bingo!
The reason we forget how poor Blake is for this team is that he didn’t play much in preseason. You got it right on the head, no ball movement makes it too easy to defend this team. We have to get somebody who can get into the paint and do something with the ball. Blake is just too physically limited.
Unfortunately we ain’t got no better choices yet. Sergio is about the same and Bayless is too raw.
On the SF position, same dilemma. We really need somebody to be able to take it to the rim. Outlaw was probably the best choice, but not much of a driver.
At this point we are going to have trouble scoring unless the long-ball is going down -same situation as last year. Too much reliance on team jump shooting.
by ralphzillo on
Oct 29, 2008 8:58 AM PDT
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I think this is where we miss Webster
This year’s Webster was showing an inclination to take it to the rim, which gave both units two slashers—Martell and Roy on the first unit, Rudy and Sergio/Bayless on the second. Without Webster, you’re forced to either start Travis, a jump shooter, or Rudy, which takes a ton of energy and smarts out of your bench unit. The balance on offense is out of whack, and I’m curious to see what adjustments can be made given the more limited skillsets of Travis and Batum.
by abdelnaby on
Oct 29, 2008 10:46 AM PDT
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Dave,
I really saw what you meant about good teams shutting down Plans A and B. This game should be brought up anytime anyone talks about the difference between veteran teams and our young team. The L*kers shut down our primary weapons and dared us to beat them with our other options, bad shots and long jumpers. How many shots did Blake have in the first half? 8 or 10? It seemed like way too many.
I also dislike TNT right now. It’s the first day of the season and it’s the featured double header. Why did we miss any part of that game? They can take 1892.8 minute TV timeouts, but they can’t delay the tip off?
On a side note: How does Batum go from projected starter to only playing garbage time? He might have provided some energy to the first unit. He’s a hustle player. We needed him or Rudy out there.
WWKPD?
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by Magnum on Oct 29, 2008 12:17 AM PDT 0 recs
You're not the only one
asking the Batum question. I don’t think there’s any way it would have led to a win, so from a certain perspective it’s a moot point. Also Travis did end up the game’s leading scorer and one of the only Blazers providing real offense. However I wonder if the last-minute switch contributed to the mental jitters we saw early. It kind of made it seem like something other than a normal game, didn’t it?
—Dave
by Dave on
Oct 29, 2008 12:26 AM PDT
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Did Roy start the game in a funk?
The first thing I thought about when I heard Travis was going to start was that Roy might be upset, or at least it would affect his mental state going into the game.
For about a week he had campaigned in the press and with the coaches for Batum to start. He went beyond just saying he was ok with it, but rather that he preferred it that way. I was a quite surprised he was so public about saying who he wanted to start, and I didn’t think Nate would be too pleased about that. Nate never mentioned Brandon’s comments and he just said he would wait to make the decision and that was what he was paid to do. That’s pretty normal coach-speak, but he may also have used those words because of Brandon’s comments. I believe Nate changed his mind about starting Batum because he didn’t want to start a 19-year old rookie, but he may have also thought an added benefit would be to let Brandon know who was running the team. That may have never crossed Nate’s mind, but I still wonder if Roy’s mental preparation wasn’t thrown off by Nate’s late line-up change?
I argued against Nate’s initial decision to start Batum in a previous thread (in favor of starting Rudy, not Travis), but it seems like a worse decision to prepare for a week with Batum in the starting line-up and then change that line-up on the day of the game. The team has too many new pieces to adjust to a last minute change like that this early in the season.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on
Oct 29, 2008 1:59 AM PDT
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I don't agree with ya
"believe Nate changed his mind about starting Batum because he didn’t want to start a 19-year old rookie, but he may have also thought an added benefit would be to let Brandon know who was running the team. "
Watch what happens if BRoy goes to management and says, “I can’t play for Nate”. (note: I don’t see that happeneing) In todays NBA STAR players run the team not the coach.
by usmcr3049 on
Oct 29, 2008 8:41 AM PDT
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You guys are overthinking this.
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on
Oct 29, 2008 10:31 AM PDT
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Perhaps
Like I said, Brandon’s comments may have never crossed Nate’s mind when he decided to not start Batum. But even so, after playing two preseason games and practicing for a week with Batum starting, it may have unsettled Brandon when he woke up the day of the game and suddenly found out his choice wasn’t starting.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on
Oct 29, 2008 1:23 PM PDT
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If he is that easily unsettled...
…maybe he isn’t really the Brandon Roy we love.
Outlaw is his best friend remember (reportedly), and I doubt he’d be too upset with his best friend next to him. I think Roy would be more discombobulated if Rudy was starting over Outlaw, because that would make Roy the SF which is the only thing he has said he DOESN’T wanna do.
Roy was kept in the same position he has always played and played next to Outlaw, which he has closed games with for at least a season’s worth of games.
If Roy and LMA play as badly as they played, there ain’t no coming back. Batum wouldn’t have made the difference, and since another SF took his place in the lineup I doubt it screwed Roy up— or rather, I doubt that was the reason Roy was so bad, since SOMETHING was screwing him up.
The point of having Batum in there is to fit in and be invisible except when needed. Outlaw is a ballhog, but Roy controls who gets the ball. Roy should be able to dictate what happens on the offensive end of our floor, and since he has played with Outlaw so much I just can’t see that switcharoo being the big problem.
Nerves, hype, Oden going out, opening night, LA… that’s what got us.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Oct 29, 2008 1:32 PM PDT
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Nerves is when you miss your first two or three shots
When you miss your first 9 shots something is bothering you. Anyway, enough psycho-babble from me.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on
Oct 29, 2008 1:45 PM PDT
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If Roy is that bummed about Batum
Then he isn’t Brandon Roy. He is a headcase.
The turnovers Roy was having and his worst start to a game in his NBA career just aren’t real likely to be tied to NICOLAS BATUM. That is way overanalyzing the importance of this move.
Aww shucks, the same SF I played every 4th quarter with last season is in the game with me. I’m so down that I’m gonna miss all my shots because I am that easily swayed.
Nerves can last a lot longer than a few shots if you never get a chance to get your bearings. Oden getting hurt early, the Lakers swarming defense, Roy missing gimme’s and LMA not picking up any slack helps make nerves and overwhelmedness last longer than it should.
Roy is normally unflappable. He has played well with Z-Bo, Magloire, and numerous starting lineups. Again… if he is that easily thrown for a loop, he isn’t a very mentally strong player.
I haven’t seen anything to suggest he isn’t strong mentally. He had a bad, awful game.
I forgive nerves after all the hype and the national audience of the game. Having that much issue with the rotation is headcase material.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Oct 29, 2008 1:56 PM PDT
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Your making the case that something was bothering him
Just as you say Roy is normally unflappable. He isn’t a rookie playing Kobe for the first time. He has played Kobe multiple times and played him well. He has played on national TV and played well. If he played that bad just because he was nervous about playing against Kobe on national TV, then he isn’t the Brandon Roy we know. Nerves disappear after a few minutes. If he let nerves bother him that long, he wouldn’t be the mentally strong player we know he is. May we just agree to disagree?
by BlazerFanSince1970 on
Oct 29, 2008 2:40 PM PDT
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I'm agreeing something is bugging him
Just doubt it’s playing next to one of his best friends and a guy he ends every game with.
He is normally unflappable. That’s why it is so odd he looked so nervous.
The big stage and opening night and LA and Oden going down just seem so much more plausible than a power grab attempt by Nate to override Roy’s opinion and play a lesser player just to show who is boss, and then that maneuver by Nate throws Roy off so much that he plays awful for the first half.
Nerves can last as long as they last. He is normally mentally strong, but not last night.
I’m agreeing he wasn’t Roy last night, but I do not think it was for mundane, petty reasons.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Oct 29, 2008 3:05 PM PDT
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Ok
But let me be clear about what I said and didn’t say.
1. I didn’t say Nate decided to play Batum to show Roy he was boss. I said Nate may have seen that as an added benefit of the decision he already made to not start Batum, but that may have never crossed his mind.
2. I didn’t say Roy was upset because he had to play next to (his friend) Travis.
3. I suggested Roy may have been upset (i.e. a little angry) that he didn’t get the starter he had lobbied for in the press (very unusual for him to do) and to other coaches, and that decision was reversed the morning of the game, which may have affected his game.
I just haven’t seen Roy let nerves cause him to play like last night. But I may be totally wrong, and you may be right.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on
Oct 29, 2008 3:31 PM PDT
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You have a point, BFS70
That very well could have added to Roy’s funk.
Sergio has a knack for making passes that lead to layups and dunks, for both teams. - Ben G.
by jamon51 on
Oct 29, 2008 1:00 PM PDT
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Roy looked nervous
Not hurt that Batum didn’t start.
I don’t think this was a powerplay by Nate over Roy. That is probably way overthinking it.
The assistants (like Monty and Dean) love, love, love Travis Outlaw. They have a close relationship with him. Outlaw was pretty much out of the running for the starting spot, and they reportedly talked to Nate about it and Nate decided to give Outlaw the chance to show he can start. Perhaps Outlaw revealed to the assistant coaches he wanted to start but didn’t want to make a big deal about it.
Maybe I can overthinking it as well… it is probably a mix of everything, but not in a cynical way. The whole team struggled with the big stage of national TV and opening night, and I guess Nate felt like Batum would struggle in that situation and experience was better since the Lakers SF ain’t a threat to take advantage of Outlaw’s awful defense.
I can almost guarantee this wasn’t a power play by Nate. It doesn’t fit his M.O. My armchair analysis is that he let the assistants talk him into giving Outlaw a chance because the matchup was defensively favorable.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Oct 29, 2008 1:16 PM PDT
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Thanks KP
I mean Mortimer :)
Sergio has a knack for making passes that lead to layups and dunks, for both teams. - Ben G.
by jamon51 on
Oct 29, 2008 1:16 PM PDT
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I agree the tip-off was ridiculous
I’m watching the season opener down 5 already.. Thanks TNT for ruining the entire experience.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on
Oct 29, 2008 6:48 AM PDT
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This is good news for the rest of the season
We’ve already used up 3.7% of our alloted 27 losses. That means our winning percentage from here on out will be even better.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on Oct 29, 2008 12:24 AM PDT 2 recs
LOL
+1 rec
Sergio has a knack for making passes that lead to layups and dunks, for both teams. - Ben G.
by jamon51 on
Oct 29, 2008 1:01 PM PDT
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flow
I agree about Travis’ game. There was a point in the second half when he was passed the ball wide open and chose to dribble 10 feet, no closer to the basket, to a defender to put up his patented jump shot. A useful guy to have off the bench but limited.
It is with Rudy that my hopes for this team lie. Because he has a sense for the game. Great timing. Did you notice in the second half when Rudy set up the three, on several occasions we got offensive rebounds. Not conclusive, I grant you, but my sense is that his timing with passmaking enables an offensive rebound two touches later to happen. That’s flow.
by Blazin' on Oct 29, 2008 12:35 AM PDT 0 recs
It used to be
you weren’t supposed to shoot a jumper without knowing your rebounders were in position. You’re right…that provided another option.
—Dave
by Dave on
Oct 29, 2008 12:37 AM PDT
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And Steve-
I hate to say it, cause I know he’s a popular player, but Blake’s offense is defensive.
by Blazin' on Oct 29, 2008 12:38 AM PDT 0 recs
yeh
very true
and a lot of guys’ defense is offensive
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on
Oct 31, 2008 1:11 PM PDT
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i'm not dave but hi!
a warmhearted welcome to the Bedge!
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on
Oct 31, 2008 1:11 PM PDT
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So I guess everyone so far
is for completely revamping our lineup and units? With Greg gone we’ll have to plug Joel into the first unit, and that’ll leave an opening at the backup C spot. Here is what I’d like to see if we keep the 2 separate units…
1st Unit:
PG Steve Blake
SG Brandon Roy
SF Rudy Fernandez
PF LaMarcus Aldridge
C Joel Przybilla
2nd Unit:
PG Sergio Rodriguez
SG Jerryd Bayless
SF Nic Batum
PF Travis Oulaw
C Channing Frye
by as11osu on Oct 29, 2008 12:50 AM PDT 0 recs
nope, not me
I want to see the units Nate had practicing together for the last 2 weeks of training camp. That means Batum starting at SF, and the bench unit staying intact. With any other lineups all it is doing is basically throwing away anything and everything that was learned in training camp.
by usmcr3049 on
Oct 29, 2008 8:42 AM PDT
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I thought Travis did a respectable job guarding Kobe
It’s freaking Kobe Bryant already…yeah, Travis got beat a couple times and he’s not the next Bruce Bowen or Battier, but for the most part I thought he held his own and kept Kobe from going absolutely bonkers which in itself, especially in a blow out, is hard to do.
by LOOSH on Oct 29, 2008 12:54 AM PDT 0 recs
I guess
I was watching a different game than you were. Just about every time I noticed Trout trying to D up Kobe, I saw Kobe going right by. Its okay, he’s not exactly built to defend a player with Kobe’s quickness. That is the main reason I’m all for putting him back at the backup PF spot. He’s less of a glaring liability at PF, plus he’s able to exploit opposing 4’s easier than 3’s. It also allows Frye to play the 2nd unit C and help open up the lane (with his pretty J) for the rest of our penetrating guards (Rudy, Bayless).
by as11osu on
Oct 29, 2008 1:01 AM PDT
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When Kobe tried he went by any Blazer with ease
He didn’t try that much last night. He didnt need to.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on
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