Nate, our coach now and in the future.
I'm going to start of with the disclaimer that I'm a Nate fan. That said, as umbiased as I can be, I think this guy is our coach.
I've been reading through the various articles out there on the team and Nate at the beginning of the season. I've attached the links below for your own enjoyment.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2008/10/lakersblazers_preview_we_are_t.html
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2008/10/blazers_banking_on_a_highyield.html
I've noticed a couple of things. First off is that nate has changed from year to year as his players have changed. He earned the knick name Sarge because he was tough on his team. He was demanding. He ran tests at the beginning of the preseason to figure out where players were at and to FORCE players to come into camp in shape. This is the last year they'll be held because players are doing what they need to do, without Nate forcing it.
Nate has also focused on building leadership within the team. The article about dinner at Nate's house, showcases this. Roy, Aldridge, and Oden are the anchors of this team. They're going to be the guys that carry us through thick and thin and they'll be setting the emotional tone and psychological tone of this team. Nate gathered them together to get them to communicate, get on the same page, and then he set the tone for what he wanted over the year and gave them a chance to speak up as well. This shows a HUGE understanding of how to lead. Additionally Nate recognizes the need for motivation. Coaching isn't just about X's and O's. It's about getting your team motivated to go out there and play your best. Motivation comes from within, but it's also inspired by other factors and Coach recognizes this.
I believe that Nate is a good X and O guy, but the fact that he's so concerned with building the chemistry and leadership, that speaks volumes for me. Frankly, i think Phil's success is based almost exclusively on his motivation and leading as opposed to the X's and O's which i think he delegated more to his assistants.
Another point that I've made through the year is that Nate learns. Yes, he's slower than some; but haven't we, as fans, been upset with past coaches who throw people in and out and so you never see what we have and no chemistry can build? Sure Nate may not sub right away, but he's showing trust in players and giving them that chance to sink or swim. When they're pulled out, they KNOW it's because they need to be pulled out. Do you yank Roy or Kobe on a bad day? I don't think so. Nate gives that bad day. I also believe part of it was because this is the first year in a while that ISN'T about building and seeing what we have. We know what we have and everything else needs to fit in or get out. I believe Nate was also coaching with that mentality. Either way, I didn't disagree with him not pulling out players right away all the time. He sees them more, he knows what they can do, and frankly... that guy wants to win as much as we do.
It's the start of the season. We're still a young team. As in every year in the past we've made some significant changes to our line up. We have two starters that are rookies. We have the sixth man as a rookie. We have a player 10 down that is a rookie. On most other teams you'd call that a revamping of the team. Unfortunately, this means we're going to be up and down. Unfortunately, this also means that Nate's head will be called for when we go on our first losing streak.
I actually become angry over this because I don't believe it's remotely fair or even based on the realm of reality. This guy has adapted and changed over the years to FIT what our team needs. He's shown great thought, great insight, and consistently manages to get teams to over achieve. Evidence shows that his teams do the best out of a time out. He has the respect of ALL the players. who in the world else do you want?
This Blazer franchise is no longer taking the year view. They're taking the long view over the next 10-15 years, and I believe Nate fits that.
So if you disagree, if you become frustrated, if you jump on that lovely emotional bandwagon and call for Nate's head after a bad loss, I want you to think about two things.
Look at the tools Nate has. Look at how he manages to get the most out of them. Let's look at cooking, as It's something I love to do and Nate apparently doesn't do when he can order from Claim Jumper. When looking at tools in teh kitchen, you NEED that knife to be the $400 knife when you're racing to chop that carrot against other cooks. If you're also racing to sharpen it, then the cook with the sharper knife is going to generally going to beat you out when all things are equal. Nate has some of the nicest tools around. We all agree on that, but he's also racing to sharpen them. He's gaining ground, but that race is still going on and we're not as sharp as we can be yet. Patience sucks, but we still need to have it.
Secondly, take a look around the league. What other coach do you want? What coach could do as well as Nate does? What coach was chosen to coach the Olympic team? What coach has as much POTENTIAL as nate does. He's still a young coach and that's something to consider too. When I look around the league, two names call to me. Byron Scott (also unproven, but manages to get a lot out of his teams) and Phil jackson. I think we're still too young for Phil and I really don't want him anyway, and Scott is not leaving New Orleans anytime soon. So if you hate Nate so much, who's better and who would fit our team and culture better?
I realize that in the heat of the moment people are goign to lash out. We've almost arrived and people want us to "FREAKING ARRIVE ALREADY". Still, I wanted to make one last call and one last statement about Nate to the loud minority of passionate emotional fans, and also to the bandwagon fans that may have hopes higher than this team can jump just yet. you're definitely welcome fans, but try to keep these things in mind before you go screaming for a new coach.
That is all, I hope you enjoy the articles. I thought they rocked.
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Yup
Nate is a class act. However, many props need to be given to his supporting cast:
- Dean Demopoulos (Lead Assistant Coach)
- Monty Williams (Assistant Coach)
- Maurice Lucas (Assistant Coach)
- Joe Prunty (Assistant Coach)
- Kaleb Canales (Assistant Coach)
- Bob Medina (Strength & Conditioning Coach)
- Jay Jensen (Athletic Trainer)
- Geoff Clarke (Assistant Trainer)
- Kevin Prichard (GM Extraordinaire)
- Paul Allen (Mr. Moneybags)
by DonkeyShins on Oct 28, 2008 10:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Top to bottom we have an awesome team, and I’m not just talking about the team on the floor.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Oct 28, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks from another Nate fan
I’ve noticed we never hear the term sarge anymore in reference to Nate (I think it shipped out with Z-bo).There appear to be no negativity in reference to Nate within the organization.
On another note, I think here is an approriate place to list what other coaches are comparable to Nate . I’d make my list as follows (in no particular order):
Phil Jackson, Byron Scott, Jerry Sloan, and Gregg Popovich.
I really don’t see any other coach as getting more out of his players than Nate and this group though. And of this group only Nate and Byron are relatively young. The other young coach tht has good potential (and currently unemployed) is Avery Johnson, but I don’t think he’s as good a motivator thus he was pushed out in Dallas. If I left someone out, please speak up.
But unless you think one of these five coaches is going to be available, I see no reason to dump Nate (and even then that would still be a gamble).
by NWfan on Oct 28, 2008 11:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm in total agreement
… with the sentiment that we do not need to hear from fans who find fault with McMillan. It’s bad enough that most of them couldn’t hold a candle to the worst coach in the league, if put in their place. What is almost inexcusable is the fact that we have perhaps one of the best coaches in the league, in about every aspect one could be evaluated on.
I’m sure I irritated some folks last season when I repeatedly pointed out how unqualified most of Nate’s critics were to pass judgement and that doing so was really nothing more than advertising how little they actually knew. Guess what – it still holds true.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Oct 28, 2008 11:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
W to the ord
WORD.
Nate is Great.
I remember Nate was often compared to a taskmaster like Scott Skiles, and that Nate would lose his players eventually. Can anyone imagine lil’ Skiles holding a get together at his house to have his players share their feelings? He’d think thats for women and limp wrists. A REAL man never lets a player know they ever did anything right and slips out passive aggressive criticisms through the press.
Nate has grown as a coach over the last few years, and has the insight and self awareness so many in his position don’t have. He likely did lose his Sonics fans a bit with his Sarge mentality, and even though “Sarge” was still needed during his first season in Portland he knew it didn’t have to last. He understood he could change along with the team.
For an alleged hard-ass, that’s a big deal. Most hard asses are hard asses till the day they die and/or get tuned out by their team.
Of course, it helps that KP got Nate kids who will listen and do what he says.
I really enjoy how proud Nate seems of his players, how much he cares about them, and how careful and THOUGHTFUL he is with how to deal with everyone— and how careful we gotta be when dealing with the multi-talented young dudes we got.
A lot can go wrong between now and Dynasty-ville.
I trust that Nate understands this, is very aware of it, and adjust his coaching style and techniques thusly.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Oct 28, 2008 11:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait until timbo finds this fanpost
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Oct 28, 2008 2:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Timbo has a point in a way.
I just think he makes it poorly. Criticism is important and it shouldn’t be something we should shy away from. Timbo has made the point that Nate is not flawless and he makes mistakes. Frankly, i agree about that. I also counter that Nate LEARNS from those mistakes. Sometimes fans are blinded by the weaknesses of their favorite players (see outlaw) or other personnel. I think Timbo makes the attacks more personal in both what he’s attacking and the fact he’s attacking with his comments (they come across that way) instead of simply laying out facts and areas of disagreement.
I do disagree with Timbo in that he thinks nate is good now but we need someone else to go further. Again… #1: who? Number two… I think nate can learn and adapt enough to figure it out himself. The man is driven. he’s been around some of the best minds and players in the NBA, he’s an olympic gold medal coach, he motivates as well as provides strategy…. who else is better? He’s gotten his teams to over achieve… once it could be an accident, but he’s done it multiple times now.
Time will tell. As there are no premier coaches currently available or likely to be available… i’m sure Timbo can join me in the hope that he is wrong, i"m right, and in three years or less, we’ll have that trophy.
We do have some TOUGH competition with the lakers though.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Oct 28, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nate's made very few mistakes that I can see.
I feel the same way about him that I do about the players, to the extent that I’d prefer that the team win championships with him than ditch him for some “name” coach. How many of us would really want Phil Jackson, even if we could get him? Or Larry Brown? Or Sloan, Riley, or Popovich? No thanks, I’ll stick with the one that brought me this far.
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Oct 28, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
need to revisit
can we link this post in 3 months when we are not meeting the insane expectations?
Sometimes I feel like I'm going in different directions...
by porterfan30 on Oct 28, 2008 2:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's what it's here for :)
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Oct 28, 2008 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nate as a dynasty coach?
Seriously?
It is waaay too early to put ink to paper on Nate being our dynasty coach. He’s a really good coach and has really worked well in the rebuilding mode of the last several years to put us in the position to make more and more noise each year. I’m not saying that he absolutely couldn’t be what Pops has been to Spurs and Sloan to Jazz. But seriously.. how many NBA franchises EVER have had a single coach that went with them through the rebuilding time, into the playoff battling and positioning, into final bouts, and to the crown?
I don’t hate on Nate when things are going bad, but I do recognize his mistakes (e.g., the failure to call a time out on the last offensive possession vs. Cavs at the Garden last season) and hope he learns from them. But seriously, what have we seen that makes him golden? Where is the evidence of great decision making in crucial playoff moments? Again, I don’t think that he, his excellent staff, or even the young leaders on the court who they will trust in those moment have shown us any reason to doubt them..
I think that Nate is a lock in coach for the next two years while we complete the rebuilding project and become an elite team. We will have lots of evidence by the end of that time to see if we hit Nate’s ceiling or not – same as a number of players that seem really great right now. There are lots of coaches who have great success at one level, but falter taking those next steps.
Also, I don’t know that I have even seen enough evidence that Nate is a significantly better coach right now than Reggie Theus, Doc Rivers, Rick Adelman.. let alone a few guys who are could be a coach (doug collins just said he really likes portland) in the nba…
I’m just saying… I dislike the NBA trend to blame coaches for what wrong and ignore them for whats right., but the reason it happens is because so much of a coach’s success/failure is intangible and interconnected with the entire organization! There are lots of coaches who have great success at one level, but falter taking those next steps.
It’s a great topic but investing in a franchise player is not the same as investing in a franchise coach – there is a reason most NBA teams do not hold coaches for more than five-seven years. It would be special to hold together the core of three-five players and Nate for the next fifteen year – win a humble third (yes that’s 5 rings) of those championships. Actually, it would be nearly unheard of..
by idoltime on Oct 28, 2008 4:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You have a point in that we still have more to see and evaluate
That said, I’d say he’s definitely better than Reggie theus and Rick Adelman. His teams AMAZINGLY over achieve. I love Rick, but would you say ANY of his teams have done that?
The next two years will show us what he can do WITH those razor sharp knives. Right now he’s been creating gourmet with standard leftovers in teh fridge. I’m very interested to see what he can do with some food that’s actually good.
Also, you evaluate him on a rebuilding year. The difference between that year and this year is that your focusing on different things. ONe year you’re still figuring out what you have, where they go, and teaching your players. This year is less about that teaching and more about the doing. I admit that I don’t know that’s the reason behind some of his decisions, but I strongly suspect it. Nate seems very calculating and sometimes the loss and the lesson… to the players… is more important than the victory. You remember it more. YOu’ll notice other coaches don’t always call timeout and that’s because the players need to figure it out for themselves at times.
Of course… i STILL kick the coach that didn’t call time out during the 2000 play-offs. That was NOT a situation to do that.
So, we can debate again in two years. I strongly suspect that Nate will have already made his case by then. I stand by the fact I don’t want ANY of the people you named over Nate.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Oct 28, 2008 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love me some Nate!
And think he most likely will be the coach of the future…but one thing I don’t think that’s been considered much is that in a few years, when we are a powerhouse coaches may come to KP and Mr. Allen requesting to coach, asking if the position will be available. Championship coaches like Phil, or Pop, or Larry Brown. KP and Allen may not be able to resist hiring a proven winner if Nate is unable to take us deep. That being said I really do think he is the coach to take us to the promised land. He overachieves, and is quickly becoming known around the league as a formidable opponent to other coaches.
by oden is GOD OF WAR on Oct 28, 2008 5:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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