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This is the preview I've been waiting for. I think J.E. Skeets is one of the best basketball writers out there, and between he and Kelly Dwyer they run a tight ship at BDL.

He predicts a 44-38 record and offers some reasonable predictions for the season. It actually sounds like he watched some Blazers games last season, unlike numerous national sports writers.

Again, I highly recommend you read BDL on a regular basis. Sign up for the RSS feed, it's worth the read every time.

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Woah

Great read. Probably the most in-depth and knowledgeable I’ve read so far.

Beaver believer!

by mannyfresh1 on Oct 23, 2008 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

This is about the 1 millionith (yes that is a word)

season preview of the Blazers that basically says, the Blazers were lucky last year, and should not have won 41 games. I don’t agree, they were as good as their record 41 and 41. People point out there points scored/points against ratio, where the prediction forumla says they would win 38 games, and put more weight into that, than the actual games played. The Blazers were very good in close contests, Nate was awsome at calling plays out of time outs, and Brandon Roy is the games most underrated closer/finisher. (by the way, the Blazers are 4-0 this preseason when Roy plays) They had minor injuries just like everyone else, yet because they didn’t have any major injuries they were lucky? Was Boston lucky? The Hornets? The Jazz? I mean come on most of the teams that had records at or over .500 didn’t have any major injuries, were they all just lucky? Houston, the Clippers, and the lakers are the only teams I think had major injuries last year, everyone else must have been lucky.

/end rant

by usmcr3049 on Oct 23, 2008 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

I would consider Oden as a major injury last year

Jame sJOnes was ona nd off in the injury department as far as active players last year, but recall that we whipped upon Denver when Lma went down for a handful of games.

by NWfan on Oct 23, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

as strange as it sounds...

…point differential tells you more about how good a team is than record.

Statistical analysis has repeatedly shown that there is little to no correlation between a team’s record in close games from one year to the next. The best teams are the ones that blow teams out far more than they get blown out— not ones that run up great records in “games decided by 3 points or less.”

The Blazers have had a significantly better record than predicted by point differential 2 years in a row. If they do it again, I will be more convinced that its do to “clutch-ness” than luck. As of now, I’m still on the fence.

The Blazers will win more games this year than they did last year due in large part to the additions of Oden and Rudy, but I think their record in close games will move a little closer to .500.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Oct 23, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have heard that

and it is true, but I’d like to point on one small detail:

PF: 6281
PA: 6255
65 games
+.4

PF: 1539
PA: 1645
17 games
-6.235

So, the whole season because it has more games is a better predictor of success, unless, you like I , believe that there was a drastic change in the Blazers when they went on the 13 game win streak. After the streak, we had a point differential of +.4, or that of a 42-40 team!

Maybe I’m putting too much stock into that dividing line.

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by Magnum on Oct 23, 2008 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you are

I think you cherry picked the data a little bit right there.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Oct 23, 2008 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Point differential is what kept the Jazz ranked above the Blazers in Hollingers stats through the first part of the season when we all thought the Blazers were way better than the Jazz, especially after the win streak.

Then by the end of the season things fell more appropriately into line.

I respect the point differential. Good point (the other kind) you make Mr. Snake.

superfluous

by lukeyhere on Oct 24, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

BDL is awesome

but i think the Blazers make the jump to the playoffs. Rudy is going to be phenomenal, book it

Woof

by Charles Barkley McLovin on Oct 23, 2008 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Abetterbomb & mannyfresh, you guys are easily led astray.

Kelly’s channeling John Hollinger. He’s wrong on so many points:

  • The Blazers played over their heads last year. I agree they played over their heads during The Streak, but no team plays over its head for 82 games. Every team ends up with exactly the record they deserve over that many games.
  • Last year’s team was “shockingly injury-free”? [Picking-up my jaw off the floor] Oden’s injury alone was huge, considering how important he is to the team. Brandon missed a bunch of games, James Jones missed games and was a shell of himself much of the season, Blake missed games with a calf injury, even Joel missed the last seven games, and there were others. We were no better than mid-pack in terms of injuries, compared to the 29 other NBA teams, last year.
  • Steve Blake is already looking better this year than he did last year. Last year was not a fluke, it was a stepping-stone. Blake will not “falter” this year at all.
  • Veterans get “slightly better” each year, when they work on their game. Young players who work on their game, like the ones on the Blazers, have a steeper learning curve and progress much faster.
  • The point guard situation is not at all “lousy.” Blake and Sergio have looked terrific in preseason and Bayless just had a fine game against the Clippers. There hasn’t been a star point guard on any NBA champion since Isiah and the Pistons, unless you put Chauncey Billups and Tony Parker in that category. Even if you do, five great point guards out of the last 20 champions pretty much proves that the lack of Chris Paul or Deron Williams is not going to hinder us from having a great year.
  • Roy will not be handling the ball “quite a bit” this year, and he didn’t handle it quite a bit last year, unless you’re talking about the fourth quarter and crunch-time situations. He will be quite happy to play off of Blake and Sergio most of the time. Sounds like KD bought into the “Roy will be our PG” rumor last year.
  • KD thinks “Aldridge is already better than Rasheed Wallace ever was in the post”? Please.
  • The future is not “a few years away.” Sure, they won’t win a title this season, but their window opens at the start of next season, not five years from now.
  • KD’s prediction of 44 wins means we likely miss the playoffs. Most experts say we’ll be in the 6-8 range in the West. Does KD really think we miss the playoffs this year? Jscot and I predict 55 wins. Who ya gonna trust?!

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics

by MiledAnimal on Oct 23, 2008 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

First of all...

Hi Miled. I really like BDL, and mannyfresh seemed to like the writing too. Kelly Dwyer, as I said, appeared to have actually watched some Blazers games last year, which is always reassuring when you are reading an analysis. That doesn’t mean I agree with everything they say at BDL, though!

  • Regarding the injuries, it certainly appears they are parroting Hollinger. They make a pretty good point, though — of our top 7 players (ranked by min/g), we missed a total of 27 games last year (<4 games/player). While I don’t buy into this whole “injury prone Blazers” idea, overall that is very healthy. This season, we are already going to miss that many games from our top 7 projected minutes/game earners just due to Martell’s injury. (Note: I don’t think we can look at Oden’s injury when discussing whether last year’s 41 wins were “overachieving” or not, so that is sort of a moot point.)
  • Your point that veterans get “slightly better” while young players “progress much faster” is somewhat dubious. I think more accurately, younger players sometimes progress much faster. I am generally more surprised when veterans drastically outperform their historical output (e.g. Turkoglu last year), but are less surprised when younger players do that. This is offset by the number of young players who seemingly are poised to outperform past output, and never do (come on Tyrus Thomas!). I’ll point you to last year’s Bulls as a good example. Numerous analysts and fans (including myself) expected big things from the young team, which never materialized. So, there is certainly the possibility that all our youngsters blossom before our eyes, and I certainly hope and expect that, but there is still the possibility that some of them flame out.
  • Regarding Blake (and Przybilla, too) — I’m totally on board with you on this one. I don’t expect much or any of a drop off in his performance. Both Hollinger and Dwyer are saying he played much better last season (07-08) than he did the previous season (06-07), so we shouldn’t expect similar play. They both miss the fact that the 06-07 year was in fact below par for him (especially his 3-pt shooting). Dave Berri put together a very nice table that shows this: Berri table
  • Just to bring up a point jksnake made above, I certainly believe that point differential is a better predictor of future success than win totals. It is common enough to get 55 heads when you flip a coin 100 times — this does not mean you are clutch. (Dave Berri’s tables show that we exceeded expectations, even correcting for Hollinger’s ideas on Blake.) That said, I think Nate is a good coach that generally maximizes his players’ abilities. I remember seeing a chart somewhere showing that the Blazers had the best (or one of the best) shooting percentages in the plays immediately coming out of a timeout, indicating he’s good with the X’s and O’s. I guess my overall point is — yes, the Blazers got more wins last year than might be expected. That should factor into win predictions for next year.
  • Regarding point guards and Roy — I think these are somewhat judgment calls. What Dwyer calls “quite a lot” and you say is not quite a lot may actually be the same thing. Having your SG handle the ball in crunch time is “quite a lot” for some teams (e.g. Hornets), whereas some teams let their SF or SG handle the ball even more than Roy does (e.g. Cavs, Lakers). Overall, I can’t argue too much when Dwyer says the PG situation is lousy. Last year this was one of the team’s weaker areas. A weak area on a .500 team could certainly be considered lousy.

Overall, I’m slightly more optimistic than Hollinger or BDL. I think the Blazers will win 45-46 and just squeak into the playoffs.

JAH

by abetterbomb on Oct 23, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with ya

My only difference in opinion is that LMA IS a better post scorer than Sheed ever was, especially at the similar stage in their respective careers.

Sheed had the turnaround and missed alleyoop dunk. And lotsa jumpers. He was very good at it, but he didn’t work on it like LMA clearly has.

LMA has the turnaround, the hook, the spin, plus the Sheed-esque jumper.

LMA is the better version of Sheed we wished we had, and I feel like he is a better defender at the same age. Sheed became a better defender, but much of it was gaining the experience and the effort he gave on defense. LMA gives that effort, and will get better as he ages and continues to add strength.

I can’t believe you hate LMA so much! I’m flabbergasted that you hate him so much that you wish he was dead!

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Oct 23, 2008 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sheed is a jerk

LA is not so we should trade for a veteran like Tinsley.

by southern oregon on Oct 23, 2008 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're not the only one who thinks that

Remember this?

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics

by MiledAnimal on Oct 24, 2008 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

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