Adam Morrison
by iDea on Oct 22, 2008 5:12 PM PDT
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I don't know why, but I've never been a big fan of Adam Morrison. I enjoyed his college game, but I never felt he would make it in the NBA, or at least at the level that people were projecting him to play. I've read a few articles lately, about his veering-towards-bust career. I wonder what the Bobcats would want for him?
Everyone knows the guy can shoot, and on the Blazers, he wouldn't be required to get his own shot off, which he's had trouble with so far. Could he be a great spot up shooter in the mold of a Kapono or Korver?
If he could be had cheap, say a lottery protected first rounder or a first in 2010, would it be worth it? I'm still not confident we have the shooter this team needs. I know Rudy may fill that role eventually, or maybe Martell if he gets it together.
Morrison is interesting because he's not a star and he never will be. But he just may end up being a pretty nice role player.....
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I wouldnt mind having morrison
but for a 1st rounder? your kidding right?
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Oct 22, 2008 5:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
At this point, we got draft picks to spare
Besides, they wouldn’t give up Morrison for nothing.
I don’t know how to rate AM. Maybe I am too much a homer, but I still don’t see giving up say Travis or Frye for Morrison.
Also, I don’t know that Morrison fits our concept. I think that Nate and KP are doing something really interesting, here, with Rudy, Bayless and Roy, and with Oden and LMA. We have the traditional bigs, some quick bigs and a (besides Blake) nontraditional frontcourt. The question is how that meshes at the 3.
I really like how Martell came in. And I respect what Travis gives us. It seems like we have so many looks.
So why not add Morrison? I think he fits better with a more standard, half court set team. I don’t see him, even off the bench, coming in and adding to the flow.
A team needs glue guys, and maybe he is that, but probably for someone else?
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by LaoTzu on Oct 22, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might put up 10pts/gm as a role player
but he would give up 35pts/gm to his man. He is possibly the worst defensive player in the entire NBA.
He rolled in like the Spanish Armada.
Got style? he’s seen sportin Prada.
With a dish and some dunks,
the kid layed out them punks,
Rudy’s here! Hide your wife, hide your daughta!
by cic on Oct 22, 2008 5:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Korver isn't a defensive stalwart either
by tingeyga on Oct 22, 2008 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
What's that, the giggle defense?
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by MiledAnimal on Oct 22, 2008 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that one's called
the “giddy like a schoolgirl” defense.
He rolled in like the Spanish Armada.
Got style? he’s seen sportin Prada.
With a dish and some dunks,
the kid layed out them punks,
Rudy’s here! Hide your wife, hide your daughta!
by cic on Oct 22, 2008 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it is the "not the face" defense
he employs it a lot actually
by tingeyga on Oct 22, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
k now I'm returning to the post every five min just to get a giggle in...
these photos are awful. I couldn’t imagine ever being able to play in the nba again, after seeing myself in such an embarassing position…..not that I haven’t been caught in worse, but you know what I mean.
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by faith on Oct 22, 2008 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is like a "worst-of" album. Love that it's all in Jazz Purple.
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
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by Y5k on Oct 23, 2008 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
Hopefully i see some of that tonight too!
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by ratbastird on Oct 23, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that you will
If Kyle is standing between Oden and a dunk, then Kyle will probably take off running the other way in fright.
by tingeyga on Oct 23, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
it’s easy to look ridiculous on a photo depending on when it’s been shot but these two are still very funny… Love em
by Blenzer on Oct 23, 2008 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Batuuuuuuummmmm!!!!!!!!!
Nice to have him playing in the first unit.
Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16
by amlmart1 on Oct 23, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam Morrison ...
is one of the five worst wing defenders in the NBA, with Kevin Durant, Kevin Martin, Michael Redd, and Rudy Gay also making that list. Among those five guys, Gay is the only one with enough innate ability to be a useful defensive player; however, he’s always been too lazy and unfocused on that end of the court.
by AK1984 on Oct 22, 2008 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd give 4 second rounders for him....
given we have some to spare :)
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by faith on Oct 22, 2008 5:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
then I'd send him straight to boise.
for the entire year, along with…… :) (maybe I shouldn’t say)
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by faith on Oct 22, 2008 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not that bad......
……but that made me laugh. Really, if you don’t think of him as the number 3 pick, he could be decent.
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by iDea on Oct 22, 2008 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i still laugh
when i remember all the people who said “we should draft him! he’s local!!!”
What int he world does local have to do with winning?
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Oct 23, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll pass on "The 'Stache"
Martell is already a better shooter than Morrison is. Here are their career stats…
Webster – 37.2% 3-PT FG
Morrison – 33.7% 3-PT FG
Rudy should instantly be able to put up, at worst, Morrison numbers from beyond the arc, and his ability to pass and play the passing lanes is far superior. Lets also not forget Rudy’s contract is significantly smaller than is Morrisons!
by lefty6283 on Oct 22, 2008 5:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about that
They get shots in totally different fashion at this time. Morrison has never been used as a spot up shooter like Martell. He takes way too many fall away pull up threes and such as it is now, but in a different roll, I thought he might thrive.
I don’t know if I’d even really want him, he was just somebody who popped up in my noggin as different from the usual suspects. And cheaper.
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by iDea on Oct 22, 2008 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think the major flaw in AM
as stated before, would be his defense. That and he’s been injured and away longer than Oden.
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by ratbastird on Oct 23, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree about the cry baby
And he’s a total bust in the sense of being a 3rd pick. But what if he was picked up by San Antonio number 27? You don’t think he may have thrived on a good team?
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by iDea on Oct 22, 2008 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's horrible defensively.
Absolutely abysmal. He was rated one of the worst players in the NBA by Hollinger before he tore his ACL. Hollinger isn’t great, but he had so much evidence of Morrison being terrible.
by Cablinasian on Oct 22, 2008 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
the guy couldn’t defend Wilt Chamberlain right now
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by prezofdeath on Oct 22, 2008 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say this is your worst...iDea...ever...
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by Mike-Fu on Oct 22, 2008 5:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was going to post this
AM link but I was afraid that it would get the reaction it is getting rather than any discussion
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
by jonestr on Oct 22, 2008 6:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I read it today
and it’s what got me thinking. I mean, he’s horrible defensively, can’t get his own shot, doesn’t rebound, and is rail thin. BUT, he can shoot, there’s just no disputing that. He’s not athletic or quick enough to create his own shot in the NBA, so he ends up shooting horrible shots. If he had less responsibilities on a team that should be pretty good defensively, he could sit outside and rain tres all day.
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by iDea on Oct 22, 2008 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AM would be a one-trick pony on a team
of multi-tool guys. And his one trick hasn’t impressed so far.
I can’t think of one player on the current 15-man roster I would give up for AM, including RLEC.
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by MiledAnimal on Oct 22, 2008 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way I'd give RLEC
I don’t know what I’d give, but not much. That’s why I mentioned draft picks……really, I just wanted to get opinions on what people thought he could become. Anything? Like I said, picture him as a late round pick. Would you consider him a good value if he was picked No 28?
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by iDea on Oct 22, 2008 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, not from what he's shown so far.
Remember, he wasn’t impressing anyone before he got hurt.
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by MiledAnimal on Oct 23, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It got me thinking too
but he is not a spot up shooter and I dont know if Nate could hide him on d enough. To me he has the ability to do what Outlaw does, but with a higher BBIQ although he is not the master of one tool like Outlaw with his one step pull up.
My point was, and I think the posts bear this out, is that AM does not illicit interesting conversation around these parts for some reason.
Calling a guy a bust after a shaky rookie year on a bad team and then an ACL injury is not really being that fair, and I honestly dont know what draws out the ire like it does. We got Roy, we passed on AM. I can understand why Bulls fan seethe when LMA is brought to their attention, but I dont see why AM bothers people here so much.
To tie up these random thoughts, I hope that AM finds a place in the league as he was really fun to watch in college.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
by jonestr on Oct 22, 2008 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt he bothers anyone here
but it’s not unfair to call him a bust so far. Even if a player’s career is derailed because of injuries instead of poor play, it’s fair to call him a bust. It just means he hasn’t performed up to expectations, not that he’s a bad person or has no talent or desire.
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by MiledAnimal on Oct 23, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. In year 4 if he has done nothing I will be more than willing to call him a bust, but not after one year where he was used as a spot up shooter on an offensively anemic team. I would say a bust is someone who doesn’t live up to their abilities due to factors that they control. If you define a bust as not living up to other peoples preceptions of their potential, then you are not really giving the person a fair shake. I know that seems a little vague, but if I put Vern Toyer in a Blazers uni and then told everyone he was the next MJ then it really isnt Vern Troyer’s fault if he doesn’t live up to my hype. I would say the perfect example of a bust is someone like Eddy Curry who just doesn’t put in the work to utilize his amazing tools.
“He is possibly the worst defensive player in the entire NBA.”
“then I’d send him straight to boise.”
Guy is a cry baby and a bust.
“the guy couldn’t defend Wilt Chamberlain right now”
“Adam Morrison isn’t an NBA caliber player.”
“Blech!!! That is all.”
“I’d say this is your worst…iDea…ever…”
“The Stache’s "role” is being terrible…"
What a series of even handed comments, and these are just from the post and not from any 06 draft discussion.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
by jonestr on Oct 23, 2008 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at it another way, jonestr
If I present a string of numbers 1, 2, 3… you would expect the next number to be 4, right?
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by MiledAnimal on Oct 24, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
why would I expect that
with such a small sample size.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
by jonestr on Oct 24, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we only needed a shooter
then I think your idea might have some merit. Kudos for going outside the popular box and at least supplying and idea that is feasible. Still, he has no defense and who do you sub out?
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by ratbastird on Oct 23, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was in Charlotte last week
And I went to the Charlotte-Atlanta game. “The Stache” was on the bench in street clothes. I was disappointed because I wanted to see his game in person.
On a side note, boy do we have it great here in Portland.
There were about 3,000 to 3,500 fans there.
I mentioned to my brother about 2 minutes into the game that it was sooooooo quiet. He agreed, but had no frame of reference. I was comparing it to the second preseason game that I went to. I didn’t get to go to the first preseason game. :(
It was noted the day after the second preseason game — by the Oregonian — that the crowd was soooo quiet here. I beg to differ. But they were comparing night one vs. night two.
Again, we’ve got it so good here. Enjoy it.
by parkinglotj on Oct 22, 2008 7:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I've got a great idea
Lets get J.J. Reddick while we are at it too!
by tingeyga on Oct 22, 2008 8:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
J.J. Redick at least has a sweet shooting stroke, although he can't create his own shot.
Adam Morrison, however, doesn’t even have that skill; he just chucks the damn ball like a maniac.
by AK1984 on Oct 22, 2008 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JJ, as a 6'4" two guard who can't D up two guards, would still be better than Stache at the three...
At least he brings SOME marketable skill to the table.
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by KP Corleone on Oct 23, 2008 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JJ is "one of the best shooters in the world"
according to a commercial for his How to Shoot DVD. Am I the only one who thinks maybe he should actually get into O-town’s rotation before he allows his marketing department to make claims like that? I mean, it’s a true statement, but you could say that about most NBA players, and it comes-off like Al Gore saying he invented the Internet.
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by MiledAnimal on Oct 23, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morrison is a poor man's Outlaw
I don’t think that makes him any good.
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by blzrfan on Oct 22, 2008 9:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not worth a response,
even though this was. Sick and tired of all these type of posts.
by lethaldose on Oct 22, 2008 10:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Stache's "role" is being terrible...
His rookie year was one of the worst by any player in league history, on both sides of the ball. I would’t trade Shavlik for him, the day Shavlik gets cut. He makes Corey Brewer look like a great draft pick. I would rather start Pryz at the three – because at least there’s a CHANCE he stays in front of somebody and doesn’t jack terrible shots.
Great college player, and I certainly admire his commitment to the ways of the mustache. Don’t get me wrong – I like him personally. And I hope he turns the whole NBA thing around. But for a team bad enough to justify giving him a chance…
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
by KP Corleone on Oct 23, 2008 12:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If we want a player "in the mold of a Kapono or Korver"...
Korver himself could be an unrestricted free agent next off-season (early termination option). Just saying. I know the photo above and that he plays bad defense and doesn’t rebound a lot for a guy his size, but he is a good outside shooter and one of the best (I would say top 3-5) in the league in closing out games at the free throw line.
As for Morrison, I would like to see a sign that he has returned fully healed from his ACL surgery (didn’t look free of problems in the pre-season) and can contribute substantially to the Bobcats before trying to make any trade for him.
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by Norsktroll on Oct 23, 2008 12:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to have Korver
I think Utah is happy with him though. I can’t see us signing him for much, certainly not more than Utah’s most likely willing to pay.
I wonder about Kapono, but he’s already being overpaid.
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by iDea on Oct 23, 2008 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd trade Ike for him
That would be Jarrett Jack, Josh McRoberts and Brandon Rush for Jerryd Bayless and Adam Morrison.
Doesn’t that sound like something we would have been OK with on draft night?
by FlyingOutlaw on Oct 23, 2008 3:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd trade twelve Budlight and some Redman for him
but he probably wouldn’t come because he would want to stay in Charlotte and enjoy the bounty
by Fund A Mental on Oct 23, 2008 8:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Do I Correctly Recall Canzano...
… recommending Blazer management draft the ’Stache over Brandon Roy as the only thing that would save the Blazers franchise?
Do I have that right?
Buck Williams for the hall of fame
by Phizbin on Oct 23, 2008 10:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ouch
I’m proud to say I was never in the draft the stache movement. It seemed pretty obvious he’d struggle being a top pick. In fact, writing this post was odd, but I don’t think it’s time to completely write him off……..from being a star, yes, but not as a player…….
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by iDea on Oct 23, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did want Morrison. Not sure about that savior thing
but it does sound familiar. He also wanted the Blazers to trade for Allen Iverson. To his credit, he did lobby hard for Chris Paul.
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by MiledAnimal on Oct 23, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so... he got lucky?
Didn’t he also want durant over oden?
Verdict still has to be out on that, but if Oden is healthy…
As I’ve stated before. Oden just has to be good for out team to be awesome. Durant would have had to have been MJ reborn.
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by ratbastird on Oct 23, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where's firejohncanzano.com?
Oh, that’s right. He doesn’t actually work for the team.
Thank goodness.
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