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Uh Oh

Hardwood Paroxysm dropped their Blazers season preview

And while it's almost unilaterally positive, this paragraph did sneak out in the section in which they "manufacture hate" about each team....

You want reasons to hate this team? How about the fact that they haven't actually done anything yet? Meanwhile, Greg Oden thinks you are being a meany weany to him. Please. Step up, big boy. All you've done so far in the league is brush off our nickname (which we're still using), and walk around hurt. Not impressed, kiddo. You want the expectations to ease off? Go play D-League. Otherwise man up and keep that goofy smile you always have on your face.

Uh oh.

And unless I'm mistaken, they also wrote about 5,000 words without including any mention of "Sergio" or "Rodriguez."

Uh oh.

Head over to HP and read their preview. And, if you're so moved, leave a comment for the good folks over there. 

UPDATE: The Big Lead also has a short Blazers preview today.  It ends with, "we have some cigarette money on the Blazers to win the title." He also didn't name-check Sergio.  Donde esta el amor?

UPDATE 2: This just arrived in the email box.  NBADraft.Net has their Blazers preview today as well.  They've got us at 2nd in the NW division, which is obviously right where we'd like to be.  And this one mentions Sergio.  Ding Ding Ding. We have a winner.

UPDATE 3: Not a true season preview post, but Dwight Jaynes does offer some insight into each player based on last night's game and charts some of these insights to season-long predictions. 

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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I know this has been debated way too much, but let me beat this should be dead horse, just one more time because it seems it’s spreading.

Did I miss something? I’ve read Quicks article several times and I don’t perceive Odens comments as whining. I don’t perceive his reaction as weak. He never say’s he want’s or expects the expectations to ease off, he simply say’s he recognizes that they exist, from fans, from media, from coaches, teamates and himself. He then goes on to say he is trying his best to be serious and focused and work towards reaching those expectations. What’s wrong with that?

In reaction to Jason’s Underwhelmed comment this is what Oden say’s:

“It’s understandable,” Oden said after I was done. “And I know it’s out there. That’s the big thing with me. That’s why I’m out here working and trying to get better. Trying to understand this, and doing what I need to do so people don’t think that way.” -Greg Oden as quoted in Jason Quicks article.

Gee, Oden cares about his perception, he cares about the expectations and he is working and trying to get better….that’s horrible…what a whiner? Has a huge portion of the world failed reading comprehension? Or have I?

Anyone, absolutely anyone that would be in Odens position would feel the pressure. How could you not? But this contention that he is whining about it I think is entirely unfair. He evidently got annoyed or midly upset at a reporter that confronted him with an opinion that his performance thus far had been “underwhelming”. So what? That’s NOT whining, that’s just caring about where he is at, and wanting to be better. Criticism can be helpful, expectations can become goals, and I think Oden understands this.

So either I’m misreading Oden in Quicks article, or I missed the part where Oden is whining because I just don’t read it that way. Oden say’s he’s trying to understand. Well can’t we let a 20 year old, starting his first active year in the N.B.A. have some time to get a grasp on what it is like to play, be reported on, and exist as Greg Oden N.B.A. basketball player? I don’t hear whining, I hear a desire to improve and actually a pretty mature reaction to what must a difficult enviroment to deal with constantly. Odens looking for understanding and self improvement, I think he get’s it. I’m afraid from the reaction of a lot of fans that we don’t get it.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Oct 21, 2008 12:02 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

He who laughs last thinks slowest.

by prezofdeath on Oct 21, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hardwood didn't get the "whining" idea from Quick

DID he, Ben!

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics

by MiledAnimal on Oct 21, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

+10

hence his refrence to it in this article.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Oct 21, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

+15

glad the media echo chamber is hard at work! Thanks local media for all you’ve done for Oden and his confidence! The National Media LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVES your negativity. Maybe you can do us a favor and pack up and out.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Oct 21, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love ya ben.....

lol…but you’re a smart elbow.

The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)

by faith on Oct 21, 2008 12:17 PM PDT reply actions  

meaning I love what you do .....

and what you ment it to do.

The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)

by faith on Oct 21, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to admit

I’m getting tired of coming here to self referential pieces in the media about the media echo chamber. I come to the edge for clear and level headed analysis not Ad Hominem garbage whether an original piece or a self-aggrandizing link to a piece that found inspiration here with the original Op-ed. I’m still waiting on your retraction Ben. Unless of course you stand by your statement that Oden is a whiner. Which leads me to then ask why are you writing about the Blazers and not say the fine gentlemen in Boston or LA?

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Oct 21, 2008 12:25 PM PDT reply actions  

why ya gotta dog ben idog?

Oden’s 20 years old. I’m still “whining” and I’m 28.

News about new’s is news as long as it’s news about our team.

It wasn’t long ago I was complaining about the lack of respect that we get from the “other” new’s outlets. Now we’re getting it, and you’re hounding our “stick it all together nice and neat guy” over one bad choice of word.

WORD?

ease up homie.

The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)

by faith on Oct 21, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ben is a gold-plated asset for Blazers fans and Blazers Edge.

One mistake and you want to run him outta town? You’re outta line. I’d short-sheet him for that whining comment if I knew where he lived, but I’d do it to teach, not to hurt. And for laughs, too.

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics

by MiledAnimal on Oct 21, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is not a mistake

It’s just an opinion.

Eh, howzit, brah. You get any da kine?

by tominhawaii on Oct 21, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

My to-do list this weekend
  1. Find where Ben lives, go to his house, break-in and short-sheet him.
  2. Fly to Hawaii, eat some fresh pineapple and coconut, find where Tom lives, short-sheet him.
  3. Send them both “I Love You” cards.

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics

by MiledAnimal on Oct 21, 2008 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha

I’ll be in Portland, just find my hotel and save the airfare for later.

Eh, howzit, brah. You get any da kine?

by tominhawaii on Oct 22, 2008 5:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

What's your hotel and room number?

Just asking…

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics

by MiledAnimal on Oct 22, 2008 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure

I was supposed to get one downtown or close to the Rose Garden yesterday and I forgot.

Eh, howzit, brah. You get any da kine?

by tominhawaii on Oct 22, 2008 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

No problem. I'll stick with my original plan.

How long will you be in Portland? I might just hang-out at your place while you’re gone. Where do you hide the key? Be sure to stock the fridge before you leave.

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics

by MiledAnimal on Oct 22, 2008 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Our house sitter knows Judo

Eh, howzit, brah. You get any da kine?

by tominhawaii on Oct 22, 2008 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Want to fight my friend?

My friend’s name is Hai Karate.

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics

by MiledAnimal on Oct 22, 2008 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't suggesting a mob tie him to a rail

and run him out of town. But rather if he loves Kevin Durrant or other players so much perhaps he should blog about them instead of writing pieces about our franchise players that insult their mental and emotional fortitude. I don’t want to see this site turned into a Canzo-esque rumor mill/negative story web page. I apologize for the negativity earlier as I fed right into it. I’m still a bit steamed, but I will let it go.

Please Ben, slam on Oden’s dunking, his rebounding, his postioning in the post or what have you but leave the MAN out of it. He’s a nice person and needs to be supported so his game can come to him. I assume the same of you so I am sorry for my negativity Idog has a temper.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Oct 21, 2008 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Hardwood Paroxysm

“He was just wetting our pallets. I can’t wait.”

I think he meant "whetting our palates.

But I can see why the rest of the league would be wetting their pallets.

by raoulduke on Oct 21, 2008 12:32 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

LOL

rec

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Oct 22, 2008 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

For the love of Jeebus

No more “previews.” 95% of the folks here at BE could write a better preview than 99% of the previews that are currently available online. Previews are for the birds.

by Lance Uppercut on Oct 21, 2008 12:33 PM PDT reply actions  

i hear you but outside perspective is a good thing.

they might not be as detailed or even as accurate but they have a detachment that is important.

and they also show that non-blazers fans are excited about the team.

honor terry porter

by Ben Golliver on Oct 21, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

For sure Ben. I too like

to hear what the rest of the world is saying about our team.

by TwoDeep on Oct 21, 2008 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

BAD previews are for the birds. I like good ones.

I even like bad ones that say good things about the Blazers, even if some of them are fictional.

I think what you’re really saying is that it would be nice if those preview writers would learn the difference between an assertion and a fact.

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics

by MiledAnimal on Oct 21, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

NBA Draft Net

Says Joel is hurt? What’s that about?

by MattyDread on Oct 21, 2008 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

he got gashed at the cleveland high scrimmage and it involved stitches over his eye. at least i think that’s what they are talking about.

as far as i know he’s fine.

honor terry porter

by Ben Golliver on Oct 21, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeh he's fine

he’s a man of patience…at least…so says Lance Uppercut

He who laughs last thinks slowest.

by prezofdeath on Oct 21, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love you Ben

You are one tenacious S.O.B.

You’re another reason why I come to Blazers Edge. I love, love, love Dave, but he is consistently even handed and somewhat fatherly. You’re the brash young guy trying to stake your claim.

I could come up with an analogy or compare it to a movie, only for someone would argue with it. So I’ll just finish by saying, that I enjoy that you bring another voice to this blog and you are willing to have people disagree with you.

Actually, I’m not finished. I hate Canzano and I think you are nothing like him. He tries to create issues or controversy, you report and have evidence for your opinions. Just had to throw that in there, because you don’t seem like you have a vendetta.

Eh, howzit, brah. You get any da kine?

by tominhawaii on Oct 21, 2008 2:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe no vendetta

but there was an agenda for awhile: the yea Jerryd, boo Sergio messages. They disappeared though when basketball actually started to be played - subduing all those elevated Bayless expectations.

Otherwise, I’m in agreement — Ben contributes tremendously to the Bedge!

by TwoDeep on Oct 21, 2008 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dave is BRoy

Ben is Bayless

"Brandon Roy is your favorite restaurant" - Dave

by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 23, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

20 comments, and not one mentions Sergio? Uh Oh

Seriously, if I would write a preview of the Mavs or Celtics, I probably wouldn’t mention Keith McLeod or Gabe Pruitt either.

Odenied: If you're given lemmings—make lemming-ade (Bow4Meow)

by Norsktroll on Oct 21, 2008 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

yowzers.

Sorry Sergio, but true.

BTW, Your picture is the best on the Bedge right now. DO not EVER remove Steven of Nazareth from your avatar. Ever.

He who laughs last thinks slowest.

by prezofdeath on Oct 21, 2008 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats funny

But its not Greg Oden that is whining. Its the other way around. Its fans and media thats whining. They expect something they don’t get, so they whine, that Oden needs this and that.

by RipCity on Oct 21, 2008 3:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Uh Oh

Did Ben just write a post and NOT dis the spanish coco?

What’s next? President Dave!?

# 10 Top Charles Barkley Quote: On the Portland Trail Blazers (back when they were known as the Jail Blazers) serving Thanksgiving meals: "In between arrests they do community service."

by BlazermaniacAndy on Oct 21, 2008 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

ive been relatively positive on sergio since preseason started.

with the exception of a few memorable gaffes, he has earned it.

honor terry porter

by Ben Golliver on Oct 21, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Screw the haters

Sergio will make the naysayers eat their crow.

Sergio, grab the playing time by the horns.

by TheGreatDane17 on Oct 21, 2008 4:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Never.

"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex

by timbo on Oct 21, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

And what's Spain's legacy?

Mexico? HAH.

U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A!

Mortimer

PS: I’ve tried to figure out what this comment means but it really means nothing. Bayless needs to earn his spot and Sergio and Rudy go together like peanut and butter.

U.S.A.! U.S.A! U.S.A!

by Mortimer on Oct 22, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

U.S.A!

U.S.A!

"Brandon Roy is your favorite restaurant" - Dave

by Sabonis4Ever on Oct 23, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not under rated

Nor over rated. I think he needs more playing time & more opportunity’s to prove himself. He should get it this last preseason game.

Sergio, grab the playing time by the horns.

by TheGreatDane17 on Oct 21, 2008 5:14 PM PDT reply actions  

The Hardwood screed was a damn fine read

Lovin’ to see the envy, fear and trepidation that is sinking into the rest of the league / fanbases. It is fun to be a Trail Blazer fan again.

"Brandon Roy a une énorme confiance en lui et un niveau de maturité assez impressionnant, et en plus c’est un vrai leader" - Nic Batum

by G_dubs on Oct 21, 2008 5:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Just for the record

I really didn’t want my post to be taken as an attack against Ben. I think we both read the same article and came to very different conclusions about what it represented. Personally I think that’s great. Yes, I think I disagree with Ben as far as how he is taking Quicks article but that’s cool. I respect both Dave and Ben, that’s why I’m here. All though it seems lately that Dave and Ben are playing a subconcious game of Good Cop, Bad Cop with us. Anyway, maybe I was a little thin skinned earlier, a little defensive but just wanted to go on record as saying a divergent opinion is fine with me. I respect Ben, it’s much easier to come as an anonymous, occasional poster and write something defending Oden unequivocably, it takes a lot of guts to write in Blazers Edge a piece such as Ben’s “Quick on Oden”. Anyway, as long as I feel someone is being sincere in their opinions I don’t care if they disagree with me, or I with them, infact it’s something I enjoy about Blazers Edge and following basketball in general.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Oct 21, 2008 10:54 PM PDT reply actions  

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