Nope … summary of the Bush years.

He wanted more than the MLE, and if he gets the MLE it is probably a deal, because of how popular he is. And he IS a great rebounder… I just think he’s a one note role player, and not a guy you build around.

It’s not that I don’t think he’s good, just overrated, and what he does on the floor isn’t all that helpful because he is so bad defensively. Maybe it’s because he’s on the Knicks, and he’s athletic enough for an undersized PF, but he’s still someone you have to compensate for, not a building block.

I think someone would pay him above the MLE. He could easily average a double/double with more minutes, and that always gets someone paid. I just think it’s more similar to the Z-Bo style double/double, except with a lot less offense, where those numbers look good but the lack of ANYTHING offered elsewhere makes it sorta fools gold.

IF he is made as a core, paid well, he’ll probably ultimately be underwhelming. Since I think SOMEONE will pay him what he wants (and likely the Knicks, as he’s their only player their fans like), his future as an underwhelming double/double machine is unavoidable. I see him as a role player who, with better coaching, could improve, but the credit he gets for he has done thus far is just overvaluing the numbers.

Mortimer

And he’s great!

He’s gonna get paid though, and more money means more role means more touches means more more.

I like what he does, think it doesn’t help that much, ala Z-Bo. He’s a bench player, but will be paid like a starter soon, and if you’re getting paid like that, you expect stuff like defense and stuff. It’s the same problem we would have with Outlaw, if he doesn’t improve the non-offense parts of his game.

It’s not that I think Lee sucks, it’s that I think what he does isn’t that important because he is a very weak defending big man. Those hurt you more than they help when they get big minutes. He should still be out on the floor more than Curry, but he’s not much different than Z-Bo before the big contract.

I like garbage bucket players, but he’s a one way player right now who, like Z-Bo as a Blazer, gets more chances at offensive rebounds because no one can score on the team. You can’t ignore that he is a great hustler for rebounds, and that getting offensive rebounds is great, but like Dave pointed out long ago, getting the most offensive rebounds means you’re on a team that doesn’t score well.

Hustle guy off the bench? Perfect. He wants to get paid though, and to be a starter. He’d be silly not to want to get paid, since someone will pay him for what he does.

Don’t get me wrong though, I don’t dislike him.

Mortimer

No joke. Have been since I was a kid.

“Unfortunate” seems like an understatement for this sense of style.
“Style” seems like a gross overstatement.

I can’t even begin to describe how wrong this is, in so many levels

that must have been in the right place at the right time. Way to make millions on a few catch phrases though!

To shop in a broom store during a tornado.