Batum = Rookie of the Year?
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 17, 2008 11:36 AM PDT
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PrintJason Quick thinks Greg Oden will be an all-star this upcoming season (just confirmed on O-live podcast). In addition, assuming Roy repeats his All-Star bid and Aldridge is as dominant as everybody hopes, we'll have potentially 3 All-Stars in February. In addition, a recent article on ESPN tells us that Nate McMillan is up for Coach of the Year. Let's not forget, we'll have a legitimate 6th man award contender in Rudy.
Now, even before the 1st game of the season, let's add one more pile of dressing on the dessert menu: Batum is Rookie of the Year. You can vote for this below.
It's not as far of a stretch as you might think. Imagine how much faster he'll improve his basketball skill-set and IQ being around such experienced teammates and opponents. He may have several +20-point games. In fact, with all the recent hype, I just moved him into my top-75 for fantasy teams. This kid could be a dream come true.
Or, we'll crash in December, and we'll be looking at ourselves and wondering exactly how soon we should import more International players to take over the team to prevent further downfall, and also adjust our philosophy of "building through the draft."
What will happen with all this hype??
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I like Batum... but
he is the least likely to be ROY just considering the rookies WE have. I wouldn’t even put him in the top 10 right now. Not that he is bad or anything, he just hasn’t shown enough to make me think he’ll be in the running.
True. Even so...
How crazy is it that Boom Boom Batum is becoming the LIKELY opening day starter at the three spot? What would the Vegas odds of that have been following summer league? 100 to 1? Lower?
I think he looked so bad in the summer for exactly the reason why he’s a perfect fit with the first unit – he’s an unselfish glue guy type player. Guys with tunnel vision (cough, cough, B-Rex) tend to excel, while the other guys disappear, making you think they can’t play. Even in the summer he looked great on D though. Brewer (not that he’s exactly a force) went something like 0 for 10 against Boom Boom.
Bayless isn't the second coming of Jordan.
Jordan was the first coming of Bayless.
Uhh
Wow, NO. wait……nope, no way…not even if hell freezes over.
Sorry man, bad post but at least you got lots of hits….
Thanks =)
I just love being a fan of the blazers… so many possibilities
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 18, 2008 5:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Like my man Barkley always says
Any publicity is good publicity
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Oct 18, 2008 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Ummmmm
Is this serious?
He may have several +20-point games.
This is completely unfounded. I mean, I like Batum too, but this is just ridiculous. I don’t think we have any place to laugh at ridiculous theories by other teams when drivel like this is being pandered.
Word.
Also, that is a terrible poll.
None of those options are correct. I would vote for “Batum will have some success, mostly as a role player and on the defensive end, but will be on the bench for most minutes once Web is healthy.”
Word.
by joelor on Oct 17, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree on the pole.
Also HotStuff, you answered your own question incorrectly. You must be forgetting that Greg is eligible for ROY. Logic: If Greg Oden is an All-Star this season, he is also most likely to be ROY.
And so is Rudy
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
GO will not be an all-star, so no need to worry about that
if LeBron is an all star snub his rookie year, so is Greg. End of story.
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Oct 18, 2008 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
EXACTLY.
The only options are Batum starts for >50% of the year or gets shipped to the D-league? I’d say neither of those things has more than a 20% chance of happening, so I am the lone vote for Batum who. Batum will very likely make the active roster and get some PT, but once Web gets back, his minutes will be limited. But at that point, he’s probably not getting shipped to the D-league.
Bayless isn't the second coming of Jordan.
Jordan was the first coming of Bayless.
I agree about the non-choices -- How about
If he performs well while Martell is out, he may push Outlaw out onto the trading block if he doesn’t show some fire in the next 8 weeks…
+1
Completely agree.
Bayless isn't the second coming of Jordan.
Jordan was the first coming of Bayless.
Yes or No Polls
should simply have yes or no as answers. Let the voter fill in the “why”.
Writing polls which half the voter base can’t vote in is downright silly.
Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.
in some cases, yes
in this case, I’d call it irritating.
Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.
Maybe you should write a fanpost about how to make polls
Someone ought to
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
by prezofdeath on Oct 18, 2008 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
hey
he COULD have one… maybe… you know… if he got lucky, and started, and we were playing a bad team, and he was passed the ball a lot because people were sagging on him, and he hit them, and the players were all distracted by his good looks and drooling over him like Sophia… it could happen.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
Yikes!
The ONLY way this happens is if quite a few things fall into place:
1) Oden has to either be the MVP, disappoint or get hurt.
2) Rudy AND Bayless have to disappoint or get hurt.
3) No “big name” rookie can have a decent year (Mayo, Beasley, Rose, etc).
4) Nic has to be NBA-ready. Which probably would mean holding the starting spot over Outlaw and Webster when Martell comes back.
5) Nic would have to average at least 10, 3, and 5, with a couple of blocks and steals to go along with them.
I’m not saying it’s impossible… but I think it’s pretty close.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
You were doing so well until #5
Let’s say Nic plays so well that he takes-over the starter spot even when Martell comes back. With his chief competition for ROY playing center with him on the black team, Nic would have to double your numbers to win ROY. Oden is going to overwhelm the competition for ROY.
Nic’s only chance of winning ROY is if, when people look at Nic, they’ll have to blink hard and rub their eyes in astonishment because they think they’re seeing Scottie Pippen or Grant Hill in their prime.
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Oct 17, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah...
I was pretty conservative with those numbers. I guess what I should have added was the fact that he would have to average at least that much, while being a disruptive force on the defensive end. Someone that the other teams in the league have to scout because they know he’ll be locking down on their best player, a la Bowen or Prince.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Oct 17, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't predict the future
but Batum is NOT going to beat out Rudy and Greg. E.O.S.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
absurd
he’s a lock for most improved rookie though, because he looks so much better this year than he did this year.
by contemnor on Oct 17, 2008 12:16 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
He has the potential to become a stat stuffing role player this season
Since he can shoot, rebound, block, pass, steal, and do a ton of intangible stuff (including being happy with only a small number of attempts and mostly focus on locking down his opponent). But not on a level that’s “Rookie MVP” worthy.
Odenied: If you're given lemmings—make lemming-ade (Bow4Meow)
You should have made that IMHO, not IMO
because when all 7 billion people on the planet including you vote for Greg for ROY you’ll be feeling plenty humble!
"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics
by MiledAnimal on Oct 17, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay ... IMHO it is.
Actually, if Greg is ROY, the Blazer’s will likely have achieved much success during the season. I just have reservations about his ability to stay on the floor. And Rudy is awfully good.
Sorry Batum
But to get it on our team you have to beat out Oden and Rudy and I don’t see that happening (as everyone else has stated).
I think we will love Batum and be astonished at some things that happen this year with his progress, but I don’t think he’s going to impress as much as the above two. Sorry.
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
Should have said
To get ROY over the guys on our team.
I just got back from lunch. I turn stupid in the afternoon.
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
I turn stupid
before you even get out of bed. The time zone works in my favor that way — I am the earliest stupid on this forum.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
That is funny
you are never stupid
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
Thanks friend
I can always count on you to back me up (even if you happen to be wrong, I DO turn stupid)
When asked about his thoughts during the Olympic games about playing against Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard, Rudy responded "My first thought was respect. My second thought was to kick their ass".
Man I love him.
ROFL we had icecream and cake in the lunchroom for my coworker'sbabyshower
im experiencing a sugar crash and i want a nap
sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
Once again,
another one of Hotstuffs crazy posts. I think he’s becoming the Blazers Edge loud, crazy, and paranoid lovable uncle!
=)
I was just using some imagination… The whole thing makes for an interesting story at the end of the day… even at the end of the season, we’ll all look back and wonder whether this was a good move or not… just having fun, but hoping the Blazers start off 10-0!!!
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 17, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Come on man
you got to reach higher! I’m thinking more 82-0.
Realistically,
I believe we can go 24-6 in the first 30 games….
I think this team is going to have an initiall ‘lull’ b/c there’s so much hype… once it breaks, it’s gonna really be “RIP CITY”
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 17, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
realistically?
dont set yourself up for disappointment. this is still a young team.
by Philthyanimal on Oct 18, 2008 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
All things being equal
I think Sergio is going to make the all-star game and it’ll be a four way tie for ROY—Oden, Rudy, T-rex, and Batman. Aldridge, Oden, and Roy will be Co-MVPs.
Travis will be Finals MVP
Martell will be MIP.
Channing will be 6th MOY.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
Has any team ever
Had 3 guys make the rook first team?,that is not impossible.
by southern oregon on Oct 17, 2008 1:16 PM PDT reply actions
Yes the Knicks. In 1964-65.
Two is more common. Even the Blazers had that: Roy and LaMarcus. Mychal Thompson and Ron Brewer.
Odenied: If you're given lemmings—make lemming-ade (Bow4Meow)
Thanks
It must be nice to be as smart as you.
by southern oregon on Oct 17, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
top 75 in fantasy draft!?!
dude you need t lay off whatever you are smoking
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Oct 17, 2008 1:42 PM PDT reply actions
well,
it is #74… however, after reading the comments on this post, I’ll likely revert to reality and drop him back below 250 =)
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 17, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow...
No way he is even in the top 10 in rookies this year. If I have an open spot in my fantasy league I am deffinately inviting you.
Sometimes I feel like I'm going in different directions...
hey - if you want to come to mine
just let me know and i’ll invite you for the fun…
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 17, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
He won’t get anywhere near the kind of numbers that Beasley, Mayo, or even Oden and Rudy will get. That’s not his game, though, so he doesn’t have to play like that to be huge for the team.
For the love of God!
When people on this site create Yes or No polls, why will they not just let me vote yes or no!!!!!!!!!!!
This drives me crazy. I’d love to vote in this poll (I’d vote no) and than quantify it with my own reason. Don’t put words in my (or anyone else’s mouth)!!! You want to setup the question and define the answers – great! at least let ME pick WHY…
Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.
All Star Game Starter!
…in the rookie/Soph game:)
btw, the only rookies i've seen that are the absolute real deal
eric gordon, and rudy, though it’s a shame he is already injured.
Not convinced.
Can’t see him getting Rookie of the Year. Hasn’t shown enough. Good rookie season not out of the question, but Rookie of the Year is a stretch.
by CanadianBlazerfan on Oct 17, 2008 8:10 PM PDT reply actions
i dont think
that he’ll make the rookie game.
by Philthyanimal on Oct 18, 2008 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
that's crazy.
with oden AND rudy on the same team? he’s nice, but blends in, doesn’t stand out. first off, no way oden makes the all star team, have you seen him play yet? ROY is poss for greg or rudy, depending on their minutes and their impact. nic will be a nice addition off the bench.
remember, last year nate was saying he was sure that we would win five or six games simply from the shooting of taurean green. ’nuff said.
I love the sentiment...
… but a sure way to start really disliking him is to put him on your fantasy roster.
But still, yeah, I like the unbridled enthusiasm.
Like Wheels says...
“it’s a great time to be trailblazer”
by hotstuffdb22 on Oct 18, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
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