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More Reasons for Rudy to Start ...

Last year, Boston traded for Ray Allen (and some other guy with a really big mouth). Some people questioned the aquisition of Allen because Paul Pierce was a perennial All-Star Shooting Guard, and Ray Allen played the same position. No problem, the folks in Boston said, Paul Pierce will simply slide over to the 3.

"... But do you really want your All Star shooting guard, the best player on your team, to play out of position ? ...", the experts said. "... Paul Pierce is big enough to check the other teams SF, and he'll still have the ball in his hands at crucial times during the 4th Qtr...", replied the good folks in Boston.

We all know how well that little "experiment" worked out in Boston.

The parallels in Portland are obvious.

Here are a few other reasons why you'd want Rudy on the floor WITH Brandon and Steve.

1) With three players who handle the ball so well, the opportunities to create mismatches are many indeed. Flash forward to October 28th. Derek Fisher is checking Steve Blake. Steve runs the pick and roll pretty well, so that's an option, but Derek Fisher is also very used to defending the pick and roll. K@be is checking Brandon. Brandon runs the pick and roll very well, so that's another option, but K@be is also very used to defending the pick and roll. Lamar Odom is checking Rudy. Rudy can definitely run the pick and roll, and Lamar Odom will look ridiculous trying to keep up with Rudy. The same is true of most other SF's in the league. Brandon has shown that he can check Joe Johnson, who's 6'7" and 230 lbs. Brandon has shown that he can check Carmelo Anthony, who's 6'8" and 230 lbs. Brandon will be able to defend the "3" without any problem.

2) Greg has much softer hands than Joel, so when Rudy zips a pass to Greg, it will have a better chance of resulting in and "And1". Rudy will be better able to utilize his passing skills when he's paired with Greg

3) Rudy has clearly shown that if Brandon, LaMarcus and Greg are the "Big Thee", then he's the "Fourth Amigo". He has tremendous vision on the Court, a huge Basketball IQ, and wide array of skills. He will cause huge match-up problems for other teams. He needs to play BIG minutes.

4) Sergio and Jerryd have been playing very well together, and I think that they make a great back-up tandem.

5) Suddenly, Travis' game becomes valuable again when you bring him off of the bench. San Antonio is forced to bring Manu Ginobili off of the bench because they don't have anyone else that can get their own shot. Travis and Jerryd will both have plenty of opportunities to get their own shots for the White Unit. You actually WANT Travis and Jerryd to look for their own shot first when they're coming off of the bench. Sergio is the perfect facilitator, and he will always be looking to push the ball, which will make Jerryd and Travis even more dangerous. Let Jerryd and Travis both play to their strengths. Don't try to turn Jerryd into a primary facilitator. Don't try to turn Travis into a player who defers to his teammates and only spots up for three pointers.

The bottom line, as far as I'm concerned, is that even without Martell's injury (very unfortunate, and I wish him a speedy recovery), I think that having a starting lineup of Steve, Rudy, Brandon, LaMarcus and Greg might still be the Blazers best lineup.

Phil

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That is reason enough for me. Perhaps we can forward this onto Nate.

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by sagebru5h on Oct 11, 2008 12:25 PM PDT   0 recs

probably already read it.

The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)

by faith on Oct 11, 2008 1:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't know if Nate reads BE

but I’m sure KP will forward it to him.

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by MiledAnimal on Oct 11, 2008 3:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well said, Sir!

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by The Earl of Dunk on Oct 11, 2008 8:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

i was against starting rudy until

i read that….i’m considering it now. thats a good point. hopefully it’d get trout out of his funk.

by Philthyanimal on Oct 11, 2008 11:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree I like your lineup

If Blake is healthy. However, it’s offensive dominance is ofset by the fact that you are going to see more fouls on Greg and LaMarcus as a result of weak perimeter defense. The reason Martell was a virtual lock to start at the 3 was not just his willingness to defer and nail the 3, but also he could expend tons of energy locking down the other teams perimeter threat allowing Blake/Roy/Rudy to concentrate on offense. Now you are asking Roy to guard the 3 which in alot of situations will make him very tired. With either Batum or possibly Frye if he is healthy and quick enough to play SF you alleviate that additional pressure on Roy which I think is critical as he is coming back from surgery. Heck you could even start Bayless and have a chance of locking down the 1 or harrying the 3. Unfortunately, I think Bayless would be a bigger liability then Batum on offense simply because he will handle the ball alot. I think Batum’s defense makes him a possible fit although obviously it’s not my first choice.

I think your line up is clearly a good idea offensively but I’m not sold on the perimeter defense of that squad unless you ask Roy to do it on both ends of the court which I believe will make him less effective.

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by Idog1976 on Oct 11, 2008 12:30 PM PDT   0 recs

excuse me

I meant Bayless could harry the 2 not the 3.

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by Idog1976 on Oct 11, 2008 12:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And one more thing

How about trying out Brandon and Rudy at 1 and 2 respectively? It almost wouldn’t matter who you had at the 3 and I think you could even get away with Batum for defense and Roy and Rudy could shoulder that offensive load for the 1 thru 3 while setting up GO and LMA down low and on the high post.

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by Idog1976 on Oct 11, 2008 12:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes.

if giving up too much defending the point start Blake or whoever situationally.

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by G_dubs on Oct 11, 2008 7:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Puzzled

Why is Blake a better defender for point guards then Rudy would be? Because Rudy is 2 -3 inches taller, Would you say Blake is quicker then Rudy? Would you say that Blake passes better then Rudy? Would you say that Blake shoots better then Rudy? I just don’t see (yet) what it is that Blake would do better then Rudy at the point. Sure, he will struggle with Chris Paul, so does Blake and every player playing PG in the league. Rudy, Roy, Outlaw, (Martel when he is back) LMA and Oden. Championship starting 5.

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by inallthetime on Oct 11, 2008 10:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

At this point

Blake will be more suited as a floor general than Rudy is, and even with Brandon on the floor this is still something we need. Brandon has said himself that Steve is great at motivating the team and getting the ball to the right players. While Rudy may have more tools to work with, and exceptional expereince over-seas it is still going to take him sometime to adeapt to the NBA game. Also, while he makes some incredible passes and steals, he does seem to gamble a lot on both sides of the floor which is not always a good thing. I do see him as being a bigger contributer than Blake in the long run, but “at this point” Blake is the choice. His veteran knowledge can’t be matched at the point guard position.

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by danevan on Oct 12, 2008 2:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Brandon doesn't like to play point guard.

He’s too big to defend a 1 and he doesn’t like bringing the ball up the court.

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by CaptainSexyJacob on Oct 12, 2008 12:00 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I understand this argument,

But I don’t think I’m convinced by it.

First of all, Martell focusing on “lockdown D” at the 3 is mainly because he hasn’t been very successful as an offensive player. Nothing about Martell suggests that he is particularly well-suited to this role (esp his average lateral quickness) … it’s not like we’d be replacing Bruce Bowen or Shane Battier at the 3.

Also, I don’t think that Brandon would be too tired out by handling 3s any more than he would be handling 2s on D. Our perimeter defense wasn’t very good last year either but we survived. It doesn’t have to be our calling card if we have a superb offensive unit and a solid team concept on defense — to take the Boston analogy, Ray Allen was considered a horrible defender and yet that team was one of the best defenses in NBA history last season.

by kickbrass on Oct 11, 2008 12:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You say that guarding 3's will, in a lot of situations, make Roy very tired

More so than guarding twos? A lot of the best scorers in the league are two guards—e.g. Kobe Bryant. If anything, I’d think Roy would get less worn out guarding small forwards than chasing shooting guards around the perimeter. It’s certainly debatable.

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by hurryup09 on Oct 13, 2008 1:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That argument is tired

People seem to think that each position has it’s own energy level. Admittedly the point guard has the ball a lot and the guy with the ball has to have a defender, but it’s not like some of the positions get to wait at half court for the ball to come back to their end of the floor.

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by tominhawaii on Oct 13, 2008 12:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It varies

Defending someone who is quicker than you is very tiring. So is defending someone who is a lot stronger than you. Against 3s, Roy may be up against taller and stronger players, which can wear you down some. On the other hand, it is probably only an issue if they are posting you up — and we probably have someone who will be able to help Brandon out a little in a post up situation.

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by jscot on Oct 15, 2008 5:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Won't the guy Brandon is guarding

Get tired defending him because he’ll be quicker than them?

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by tominhawaii on Oct 15, 2008 6:35 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The guy Brandon is guarding

isn’t always the same guy that is guarding Brandon.

by trk on Oct 15, 2008 5:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Good point

Does that mean LA has a weaker defender on him then. I’m cool with that too.

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by tominhawaii on Oct 15, 2008 5:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

very true

that’s why it’s cool to mix it up with zones.

Roy at the 1, 2, or 3 is manageable in most situations.

It was a fine day the NBA nulled the zone d violation

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by G_dubs on Oct 15, 2008 10:36 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes

I’ve mentioned this before.

We can go with a three guard rotation and use zone if necessary if the other team is using a bigger 3. So he’s tall? Yeah, but we’ve got Oden and LMA at the heart of our zone. Go be tall on the perimeter.

We can also use a Rudy/Roy backcourt even against Chris Paul, and use a zone.

You can’t play zone an entire game, but you can use different zones and cover a lot of problems.

The zone D violation was a joke. Everyone violated it from time to time, and it was impossible to enforce consistently.

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The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Oct 16, 2008 2:57 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

cool great minds think alike!

any chance that releases me from the bowing toward Scotland 12 times a day (cut it to 4?) and unconditionally releasing me from the obligation of licking jorga’s boots?

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by G_dubs on Oct 16, 2008 7:57 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmm

You’re asking a lot based on one coincidence where your brain matched the trajectory of mine.

I’ll cut the bows to 8 / day. If it happens again, we’ll cut the boot-licking to once a week.

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by jscot on Oct 16, 2008 1:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Man

I have like 3 “licking” comments I could post, but I won’t because it is regarding jorga. The first one started with, “What’s wrong with.”

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by tominhawaii on Oct 16, 2008 4:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I shall consider, but

the boot licking thing is a big ugh. Still, being on staff at The World Airforce would be hella cool!

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by G_dubs on Oct 16, 2008 11:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Good grief

Getting hung up about virtual boot-licking over something really important like this makes me wonder if you are really fit for the job.

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by jscot on Oct 17, 2008 1:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I found the comment

In Christian"s fine after action report interesting about how well Rudy and Bayless operated together on defense,Rudy dosent need to start but he is just to damn good not to play major minutes. I hear that JB is starting to click with Sergio as well and if Roy has to play the 3 for a month we will be fine.

by southern oregon on Oct 11, 2008 1:04 PM PDT   0 recs

Rudy and Sergio

click well too, don’t they? You couldn’t have all three in the same lineup though.

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by CaptainSexyJacob on Oct 12, 2008 12:01 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I like your thinking.

I think the Travis-as-starter experiment is failing. He may not like it, but he’s a bench player. My only concearn is the wear and tear of Brandon checking heavier, stronger guys.

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by OCBlazerFan1 on Oct 11, 2008 1:21 PM PDT   0 recs

Joe Johnson and Carmelo are both 230 lbs

but Roy is 229. The only guy who would really outmuscle him is LeBron, and every SF in the league has that problem.

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by MiledAnimal on Oct 11, 2008 3:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Roy is 215ish his year

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by G_dubs on Oct 11, 2008 7:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think you're right

but I do recall reading 229 somewhere recently. Still his 215 versus Rudy’s 185 decides the issue of which of them would move to SF if Nate wants to do that.

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by MiledAnimal on Oct 11, 2008 7:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

We dont play LeBron

till next year so lets not worry about him beating down on Roy at the 3 till then

by southern oregon on Oct 11, 2008 7:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oden can guard LeBron

He’s bigger and just as fast and athletic. Bron will get frustrated quickly and curse at the refs and get thrown out of the game.

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by MiledAnimal on Oct 11, 2008 7:58 PM PDT to parent up   1 recs

What about the Finals?

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by tominhawaii on Oct 12, 2008 3:32 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

lol..

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by faith on Oct 12, 2008 5:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

agreed.

rudy will get major minutes this year, and will be on the floor with Roy. How the actual rotation and starting line-up shakes out will be interesting, to say the least.

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by G_dubs on Oct 11, 2008 8:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Rudy is the Real Deal

Rudy is the most versatile player on the team. I would start him.
Of course he can also do great things coming off the bench. For now I would play him at the 2 with Brandon at the 3 and Blake at the 1. Could be a no brainer. Course we need a healthy Blake. Go Blazers!

by Lu on Oct 11, 2008 2:24 PM PDT   0 recs

Rudy is so smooth

Wherever Rudy ends up playing he will no doubt be fun to watch. I like him to start, I don’t know if playing with outlaw will be a good fit seeing as how Travis is predictable and doesn’t move well without the ball. Travis needs to step his game up even more this year if he wants to stick around.

by bigrandy on Oct 11, 2008 2:33 PM PDT   0 recs

+1 for the 4th amigo

you had me untill and Steve.

by riccc_l on Oct 11, 2008 3:09 PM PDT   0 recs

the only part of your article I have a problem with is

when Rudy is checking Odom on the defensive end…Odom would abuse him in the post, and if we slid Roy over to guard Odom, there’s a high chance Brandon would get into early foul trouble

by lefty6283 on Oct 11, 2008 5:11 PM PDT   0 recs

Don't forget

Channing. If its a big SF, throw Channing into the 3 spot. He’ll spread the floor with shooting, works on D, and will add rebounding. He’s too slow for some SFs, sure. However, hes also too long for virtually all SFs. Odom would be a perfect matchup for Channing to take on.

by lookup on Oct 11, 2008 5:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

thats true

but using the example of Rudy taking Odom off the dribble is only valid if Rudy or Roy would guard Odom…you can’t just sub Rudy out after every offensive posssession

by lefty6283 on Oct 11, 2008 7:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

high chance?

I suspect you are speaking hyperbolically

Nature bats last.

by fisheyes on Oct 11, 2008 6:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Agree to a point...

All very good reasons for starting Rudy… However, remember that he is still a rookie with no NBA experience, whereas Pierce was a seasoned veteran. That being said, I think we will see Rudy in the starting unit before long (perhaps by midseason) because he is just too good not to start and get big minutes. As far as what positions he and Brandon will play, remember that some of the best attributes of Roy and Rudy are their versatility, so I’m certain they will be able to mold their games to the position and role they will be asked to play, without detracting from their overall effectiveness.

As for their defensive responsibilities guarding the 1,2, or 3, I believe they both have the athletic ability to defend, plus the mindset and work ethic to become effective defenders. And we shouldn’t worry too much about how much energy they have to expend on the defensive end, because after all defense is half the game and every true star in the league has to play defense (e.g. Jordan, Kobe) so if they want to truly be considered as stars they will have to work just as hard or harder on defense as on offense. Plus we have the depth so that they will be able to get enough rest during games.

by socalblazer on Oct 11, 2008 5:14 PM PDT   0 recs

What I want is a completly interchangeable team

Pick the Starting line up out of a hat and let em go. Who ever is feeling it stays in and gets forth quarter action.

by Blazersaurus on Oct 11, 2008 6:38 PM PDT   1 recs

hey

great idea. I think we should have Nate get to it.

Nature bats last.

by fisheyes on Oct 11, 2008 6:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Here's numero 18...

and I tried to un-rec it. Nah, jk, I actually like the idea, despite the lack of balance comment-to-rec-wise.

by Bust a Bucket on Oct 11, 2008 9:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree.

I think Nate already said that if Travis doesn’t work out (He’s shooting 20% on 6 of 29) he will go with Roy at the three and have Rudy start at the two. It makes sense to me. I love Outlaw and I will continue to root for him even after he gets traded.

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by Winchester on Oct 12, 2008 1:51 AM PDT   0 recs

Wouldn't suprise me if Travis found his game again off the bench

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by G_dubs on Oct 12, 2008 2:02 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

As will I. Love the guy, not the game

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by hobobob on Oct 13, 2008 11:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

heck yeah I'll root for him even after (if) he gets traded!

The dude is so darn lovable

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by vavoom on Oct 14, 2008 7:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice reasons but I still think Webster should start

He is every small forward in the world to me. I don’t care who starts now, but when Martell comes back, I want him to start at SF for the next 6-10 years for the Blazers.

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by tominhawaii on Oct 12, 2008 3:35 AM PDT   0 recs

It will happen, but the issue is Travis.

Mac already commented right after the Olympics on the fact that he was working on plays to fit Rudy into the lineup and move Roy to the 3 at times. This scenerio fits into that comment .

It’s also one we’re likely to see as much from necessity until Martel gets back, as from anything else. Travis, at least right now, isn’t showing he should be starting – regardless. So, no matter how we slice and dice it, we need a solution, and Batum needs some seasoning.

And that seems to leave us pretty much with only this scenerio. The other option would seem to be three bigs and two smalls.

Right now though, the issue is Travis. In reality, the second team player is supposed to be able to step up in case of injury, and he’s not showing he can do that. The small ball set, in Mac’s plan, was to be used strategically, not all the time.

On the other hand, out of this will come a certain reality. If Travis doesn’t make his case to start – and start doing it pretty soon, then it will be Travis, not anyone else, who puts himself permanently on the second team. Further, when it comes to trades, this weakness would very likely cause the Blazers to think about making moves to solve this issue. As valuable as Travis is off the bench, you simply can’t have a second team SF that can’t fill in for the starter when needed, and do a credble job.

by Eben Calder on Oct 12, 2008 5:27 AM PDT   0 recs

How about Bayless as the 3rd guard?

I general, I have liked the idea of a three guard line-up all summer. Roy and Rudy both have great passing skills and super high b-ball IQ. I wonder if JBay may quickly become the third guard in this rotation?

In my opinion, JBay will quickly become a defensive upgrade over Blake against most of the fast PGs in the league. Blake seems to struggle keeping quick guys in front of him, and he is not much of a threat to take it to the hole. J-Bay’s limited playmaking skills would be compensated by by having Roy and Rudy on the floor at the same time. Having Roy, Rudy and JBay on the floor would give os three guys who can definitely take it to the hole.
J-bay would need to show that he can catch and shoot reasonably effectively.

What do the rest of you think?

by upper left corner on Oct 12, 2008 5:56 AM PDT   0 recs

Next year very possible

I think Blake is too far ahead of him this year.

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by jscot on Oct 12, 2008 10:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

JBay has shown himself as a scorer

But he has had toruble in the pre season. I like him coming aggressive off the bench with Sergio.

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by LaoTzu on Oct 13, 2008 3:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

but he might well fit into that role by next year, and surpass Steve.

In fact, by next year it is possible that Blake becomes the third PG. I don’t think it will happen, but both Sergio and Bayless have the potential to be better.

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The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Oct 15, 2008 6:00 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm playing in a softball tournament today

Wish me bad luck.

It starts at 8:30 AM and we play two games, if we win those, then another game, if we win that, then another. I want to go home as soon as possible instead of hanging out until almost 3:00 PM.

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by tominhawaii on Oct 12, 2008 10:30 AM PDT   0 recs

I hope your team sucks TIH

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by G_dubs on Oct 12, 2008 10:36 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks

I thought I posted that in the junk drawer. I don’t know how it got in here. We only sucked like the Lakers in the post season last year.

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by tominhawaii on Oct 13, 2008 12:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Take a hint from the kids on South Park

Playing really bad is an art. To really suck at baseball, you have to practice. You guys just got lucky last year to be eliminated early.

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by LaoTzu on Oct 13, 2008 3:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm sorry.

I tried to incant an old Chinese curse, but evidently I got something wrong. I will go back to hte book so I will be of more help the next time. I am only half Chinese, and not by birth, so maybe that is why it didn’t work.

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by G_dubs on Oct 14, 2008 4:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The opening game matchups are interesting

If Kobe plays the 2,Roy is the 2 and Channing is on Odem at 3 with Blake et all but if Kobe is the 3 and Roy slides over then Rudy at the 2 makes the most sense but you cant ask Rudy to defend Kobe.

by southern oregon on Oct 12, 2008 11:48 AM PDT   0 recs

his coach asked him to defend Kobe

in the olympics

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by G_dubs on Oct 12, 2008 12:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And Kobe got how many points?

The good thing about it would be Rudy running his ass ragged

by southern oregon on Oct 12, 2008 12:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

it would be optimum if he improved a tad

maybe Nate can help

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by G_dubs on Oct 12, 2008 12:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Rudy still scored more points than Kobe

in the finals, despite playing fewer minutes.

by trk on Oct 12, 2008 1:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

K*be really wasn't good in the Olympics

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by hobobob on Oct 13, 2008 11:10 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He played some pretty good defense

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by tominhawaii on Oct 13, 2008 12:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah he did

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by G_dubs on Oct 14, 2008 4:49 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs