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Regarding that Outlaw guy...

Oh NO!

 

Travis Outlaw is turning into Terrell Owens, and is going to tear apart the Blazer franchise from the inside out with his selfishness and me-first attitude!  Get this bum traded while other teams are still clueless and we can pick up a veteran so we can win a championship this year!

 

Yes, I’m making up an extreme example but this is the sort of thing that is cropping up about Travis Outlaw based solely on his performances over the past two games pre-season games.  No I’m not going to excuse his bad performance, he truly has struggled the past couple games and he certainly hasn’t looked like a bright spot for Portland so far.

 

I am however going to say…this is not unusual for Outlaw he goes through stretches where he can’t find his comfort zone and sometimes this just makes him a liability on the court.  Don’t forget though that he did not have a horrible performance against the Kings and in the Fanfest he was quite good actually.  And in his bad games his other stats are up compared to some of his bad games last year, so it does appear that even without his shot falling he is at least trying to be good on the defensive end.

 

Consistency or lack thereof is something that has often been talked about as plaguing our other SF but really it’s just as true of Outlaw.  The only difference is that one of them will keep shooting even when he is off whereas Webby would just check out of games.  Like several “stars” in the league, Outlaw is a guy that can really get in a rhythm and go unconscious for a while and when he does that it is nothing but bad news for the other team.  It shouldn’t surprise us that he is in a shooting slump as he certainly had a few of those last year as well.  Shot selection is certainly questionable at times with Outlaw, but in reality it gets worse when he is not shooting the ball well.  In my estimation it is good he is having this slump in pre-season and I am not prepared to say that he should be shipped out already.

 

We really do not need to concern ourselves in the least as fans in Outlaw’s performance thus far.  Extrapolating two preseason games as to what to expect from him for the remainder of his career is just shortsighted and silly.  He will have his good days and his bad days.  After hitting his two 3’s in the most recent game who honestly didn’t think he might go off for 20 or more?  It’s preseason, he will play minutes whether he is doing well or not. When it gets to the regular season it’s a whole different ball game and I’m confident that Nate, Roy and probably Rudy as well will manage Travis to get the best out of him.  When he is on his game it will be taken advantage of, and when he is off his minutes will be more limited.  Keep in mind that Outlaw tends to shine more in big games and big moments.

 

Bottom line; take everything with a grain of salt before passing judgment.  Outlaw is apt to go out and have a 30 point game this preseason and there will be people talking about him as being a possible All Star.  The reality is he’s somewhere between All Star and 1 for 10 shooting guy, but unfortunately he tends to be only one or the other on any given night.

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by timbo on Oct 11, 2008 7:50 AM PDT   0 recs

I partially agree...

Hey man… I sort of agree with you but look:

That Outlaw loves to shoot should come as a revelation to no one. The guy has loved to shoot over the last two years and has hoisted up all kinds of shots. I think it’s just summer boredom that’s causing people to overreact as you suggest.

But I will go out on a limb and pass judgment in this sense: I’m tired of making half-apologies for Outlaw and other players and certainly weary of listening to them.

“…this is not unusual for Outlaw he goes through stretches where he can’t find his comfort zone and sometimes this just makes him a liability on the court”. I’m not okay with that… not anymore. This doesn’t make Outlaw special or desirable; it’s what makes him replacable. Nate talks about reliability and consistency… not gambling on and occasionall rolling the hard-8 for big bucks.

“Consistency or lack thereof is something that has often been talked about as plaguing our other SF but really it’s just as true of Outlaw.” I agree, completely… and I think that makes them ALL rather replacable. We loved James Jones BECAUSE he was consistent yet we seem to love the Outlaw/Webster duality in spite of it.

“Shot selection is certainly questionable at times with Outlaw, but in reality it gets worse when he is not shooting the ball well.” I agree… but I don’t think this makes him desirable. “Team-oriented” basketball, in my opinion, is about NOT taking bad shots. While most great forwards and guards in the league will take “heat check” shots, I think if one charted out Outlaw’s shots you’d find a relatively disproportionate number in the “OMG” category. Again, don’t we want the Udoka/Jones type player to play great D and knock down the spot-up shot reliably?

“Bottom line; take everything with a grain of salt before passing judgment.” I agree about not leaping to judgment as the result of pre-season games…

… but man, it seems like I’ve been waiting YEARS for Outlaw. YEARS!! It seems like every season we go through this sort of ritualistic overlooking of errors from the glaring light of potential. I’m just tired of waiting for potential. I want a James Jones type player back—or Ime—someone who can hold down that position adequately. I submit to you that living through the ups and downs of Outlaw’s game (less so, for Webster maybe) is not adequate in that sense.

So when is it over? When does waiting for potential just become as silly as a group of nerds throwing a party and waiting in futile desperation for attendees? Many would say last year. I say this eyar. Maybe others say next year. But at some point, Outlaw simply has to arrive. As an example, I love Sergio… but if dude can’t make it this year—or at least really show something new—I gotta think we let him go. When has Outlaw showed us anything new?

Buck Williams for the hall of fame

by Phizbin on Oct 11, 2008 8:02 AM PDT   0 recs

waiting for potential?

you’re saying at some point waiting for potential has to end. It’s ‘ended’ for Outlaw after 5 seasons and it’s ended for Sergio after 2.

When does it end for Martell?

by moldorf on Oct 11, 2008 8:43 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

that's ridiculous

for one thing, you don’t know how “hard” travis has worked, especially in relation to webster.

for another thing, Webster started out last preseason and the first part of last season “on fire” but then regressed back to a level slightly better then the year before…his pattern.

For another, in the one preseason game webster played this summer, he did little different then he has in the past until Rudy fed him the ball in perfect position 3 times…against Sacramento scrubs in the 4th quarter.

And finally, if Travis hadn’t listened to the coaches as you assert, he wouldn’t have been getting all the 4th quarter burn he did last season. Coaches don’t reward uncooperative players with playing time down the stretch.

the travis hate is getting out of hand and is frankly absurd considering it’s now only 4 games into the exhibition season.

by moldorf on Oct 13, 2008 7:54 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Coming to camp out of shape with no visible improvment

In his multitude of weakness’,=working hard? If you say so.

by southern oregon on Oct 13, 2008 9:15 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Try Reading what I wrote

again perhaps.

I made no judgement on how hard Travis has ‘worked’ in the off-season. You are the one that did that. I didn’t make a judgement because I simply have now way of knowing and I’m betting you don’t either.

I’m also not foolish enough to make any concrete judgements based on the first 3 exhibition games when the roster and rotations are in such a high degree of flux.

You are also the one that asserted Travis is ignoring the coaches and I’m really curious on what you base that upon. I’ve never heard the coaches say that about travis, however, they have said that about Martell.

by moldorf on Oct 13, 2008 6:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

lol

after his fifth year. (when it ends for webby)

The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)

by faith on Oct 11, 2008 9:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

sorry...see KP's cap-space plan

webster’s 11.3 million cap-hold the summer that KP wants major cap-space means he’s on a diffeent timeline then Outlaw. Webster supporters may not like that, but unless KP changes the plan he’s been pointing towards for 2 years, that’s the way it crumbles. Keep in mind as well, that a little more then a year ago, KP thought so poorly of webster that he added him as filler to get rid of Zach in the NY trade.

by moldorf on Oct 13, 2008 7:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm just saying it has to end

And that waiting unti the nail is in the coffin is too late because then there’s no trade potential.

I don’t have some kind of magic formula. I’m just suggesting that

1) Blazer fans tend to be too patient with some guys (Outlaw might be one of them and Sergio is probably another).

2) That we should generally try to be objective. For example, I think subjectively that Outlaw is close to the end of his rope. I want to see a couple things to dissuade me from that: I want to see defense (andy by that I really mean Dave, Quick, and Nate praising his D) and I want to see team play (ie, assists in the box score).

It is counter-productive to wait until a guy has proven beyond all doubt that he has attained whatever ability he will ever reach. At that point, his trade value achieves market parity. That means no pritch-slapping.

As exhibit A: I give you Sebastian Telfair.

Buck Williams for the hall of fame

by Phizbin on Oct 11, 2008 9:52 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I understand the concept of buying low and selling high.

But I think some people take it as law rather than guideline, and excise all the other nuances involved in team building and trading, and reduce it down to a fantasy basketball exercise where everyone is assigned a numeric value.

by zaruga on Oct 11, 2008 9:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

patience

how is 5 years of giving outlaw the ball and giving him undeserving minutes in the 4th quarter prior to the introduction of supertrout the same as sergios 1 year of playing and 1 year of riding the pine?

by Philthyanimal on Oct 11, 2008 11:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL

so you say Nate should be fired…he is after all the one who gave travis all those “undeserved” minutes in the 4th quarter.

by moldorf on Oct 13, 2008 7:56 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Nate has nothing to do with it

I just dont understand how fans can create double standards to support whatever conclusion they may have.

Sure…fans were really patient with Trout. He has had a ton of playing time over the years, and has logged a lot of 4th quarter minutes. It didn’t really make sense why he would get so many 4th quarter minutes at the time, because he had such a low BBall IQ, and hasn’t performed up until the emergence of Super Trout.

Sergio on the other hand has had only 1 year of real playing time…actually 2/3s of 1 year. Then gets sporadic play time last year where the coach would pull him after a bad play. His confidence gets hit hard and his game is off rhythm the entire year.

How is Sergio’s situation patience? Clearly Nate didn’t have any for him. We were patient with Trout…it took awhile to pay off, but it did. We weren’t patient with Sergio. All Sergio and his supporters wanted last year was more consistent PT, and that request got denied. Now that he has the PT, his game has gone up dramatically. Nate and the doubters should have been a little more patient with him.

by Philthyanimal on Oct 14, 2008 10:57 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And this, my good sir, was my point in my post.

This gets us truly looking at the team. It was never about how many points he scored or even didn’t score for that matter, it’s how he goes about doing it. I really hope he can be coached into making the right decisions, though it seems something like this is either innate (like Roy) or tempered over time. How much longer do we have to wait with him, another 5 years?

Does this mean I have to like Diogu now???

by Ike_o_rama! on Oct 11, 2008 6:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Good call

It seems as though when he plays, Outlaw sometimes forgets its a team game and is more self involved (i.e. 11.8 shots/game). Only Leandro Barbosa, Rashad McCants and Jermaine O’Neal took more shots in a similar amount of time as Outlaw did (and all of them played more minutes). Nobody would contest that McCants is a ball-hog, but both Barbosa and O’Neal played in very up-tempo offenses last year. Travis played in a fairly conservative slow down game of Coach McMillan, so he had less overall touches (on average).
I love Travis’ athleticism, as well as his propensity to make big shots (see the Memphis game last season), but I believe that he can be a black hole with the ball, often times stagnating the offense by patting the rock and settling far too often for a jumper. He should use his athleticism to attack the basket more, and also look to find his teammates with a pass instead of forcing up contested shots (which will happen more this year when he’s guarded more by small forwards instead of power forwards like last season).
Now lets talk about Trav’s defense. Ouch. He’s a fairly good weak-side shot-blocker, and can jump in passing lanes and pick a ball off, but he it seems he’s so consumed with his offense, that he forgets you’re only on offense half the time. His on-ball defense needs A LOT of work. I’m not sure, but maybe he just doesn’t have the basketball I.Q. to get any better on defense.
Travis seems like a nice guy, and is definitely a fan favorite, but I’m not sure he fits into our long term plans. He wants to start, yet is a bad fit to start on this team, as its currently assembled. He wants 16 shots a game, but nobody on this team took 16 shots a game last year (Roy had a team high 15.8 per contest). Perhaps the best thing to do is to trade him (possibly along with RLEC), and try and get a piece or two that better fits what this team is working towards.

by lefty6283 on Oct 11, 2008 8:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Do you think Outlaw is playing outside of Nate's game plan?

I seriously doubt that Outlaw is taking more shots than Nate has given him permission to take. Yeah, sure, Nate still pulls him aside after some of his shots and tells him to be more patient. But generally speaking I suspect that Nate has given Travis multiple green lights since about this time last year, and that Travis is just doing what he is told to do.

Now, Nate may be giving Travis all those green lights because that is how Nate envisions his offense operating. He really wants a high octane scorer (like Outlaw on his better days) to come off the bench and light it up with an unguardable jumper or some strong moves to the hoop. If Nate loses confidence in Travis maybe he’ll try someone else in that role. The team could still go out and find someone else to play the SF position and be the main scoring option off the bench.

by Love on Oct 11, 2008 8:58 AM PDT   0 recs

Position

I think people have forgotten that Travis had his best success at the Power Forward position, and struggled as a Small Forward somewhat last year. That too doesn’t bode well for his tenure here in the long term because PF is so loaded, but it helps explain some of that struggle. LMA struggled at center as well.

by zaruga on Oct 11, 2008 9:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

12 regular season games, and I'm ready to lite his stake.

NO excuses for him to be comming in to camp NOT READY. NONE. HE IS A VETERAN IN THIS LEAGUE.
Roy gets it, Aldridge gets it. Blake gets it. shoot, EVEN SERGIO GOT IT. I’m afraid there wasn’t enough left over for travis.

I got faith he’ll pull it together once the games matter, but golly ge wizzzz. I am disappointed so far. boy should have been pumpin iron instead of fishin the muddy mississippi.

The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)

by faith on Oct 11, 2008 9:15 AM PDT   0 recs

Exactly.

Why can’t Travis get it? The other players can. No reason for him to be an exception. You raise a good point.

by CanadianBlazerfan on Oct 11, 2008 4:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This is one of the most well reasoned posts I've read on this subject in quite a while.

Of course, agreeing with it probably helped lead me to that conclusion.

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by T Darkstar on Oct 11, 2008 10:01 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16

by amlmart1 on Oct 11, 2008 10:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

#1

There. I tossed in my little #1 too.

Because I agree wholeheartedly with the green colored text.

The perfect is the enemy of the good.

According to James Kunstler, who writes a well-respected if slightly profane financial blog whose title I cannot repeat here, "The Republicans must be clearly identified as the party that wrecked America... it's hard to imagine the American people giving the clean-up task to the very group that created the mess -- no matter how many cute little faces Sarah Palin can make on TV."

by vavoom on Oct 11, 2008 10:42 AM PDT to parent up   1 recs

I had to login just to rec this

I really wish people would be a little more liberal with their recs. It’s easier than saying, I agree. It also helps me see (I’m non-color blind, which means I can only read green comments) the comments that are the most popular

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Oct 11, 2008 11:28 AM PDT to parent up   1 recs

OT but I took the color blind test once

And there is one shade of lime green that looks like a light brown to me

by southern oregon on Oct 11, 2008 11:37 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Or is it really light brown and looks like lime green to all others?

That’s the real question my friend.

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Oct 11, 2008 1:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ewe!!! I just checked hobo bobo's profile...

and ^that’s his 6hundred and 6tysixth comment.

kinda creepy.

The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)

by faith on Oct 11, 2008 1:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Glad I got out of there quickly. I find it kind of creepy that you're stalking me

I could give you my myspace URL if you wanna go on a date or something.

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Oct 13, 2008 11:32 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Haha, thanks guys. :)

First recced post, and I owe it all to my fanbase. ;)

For the record I think internal debate is healthy and vital to any online community. It just seems increasingly the we’re pitting our own players against each other in a cage match to the death these days. I thought it would be a healthy exercise to step back and analyze why this might be.

by zaruga on Oct 11, 2008 11:15 AM PDT to parent up   1 recs

+1

Last paragraph.

the Spanish contributors on this board are hellah cool

by G_dubs on Oct 11, 2008 7:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow. Nicely put.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Oct 12, 2008 2:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Touche

This is what I wanted to write but didn’t have the patience for it. Very very well done.

by begottenson on Oct 13, 2008 2:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks blzfan

You nailed it (I’ve been trying to say some of these same things in several comments in other posts, but you got it all summed up and a nice job of it)
   It seems that anyone who watches Travis play, and has a good knowledge of the game, would recognize the things you have said…..it sticks out so badly, that you can’t help but notice. I guess there are a lot of people in here that are just fans, and don’t know that much about the game
  Besides, with the emergence of Batum as a better player than Travis (right now), has given this position a new breath of life and I for one am very happy that Batum will soon own this position…It’s very clear, that without the fog of love, Batum is the best player we’ve had at the 3 for a long time…I have never liked Travis’s game…he is outrageously athletic, but so are a lot of people that don’t play basketball…
       time to move on …and thanks again for the comment, it is spot on….

by 67 on Oct 13, 2008 9:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ps

this post was about people being down on Travis due to the poor preseason (an unqualified assumption)….I would never jump to such a conclusion and probably an insult to many in this blog….. we saw a long time ago the flaws in his game and the preseason just gives us another look at what to expect from him…..( I was hoping he wouldn’t get his shots and low % because I didn’t want people holding on to false hopes that his game was any more than what it is)

by 67 on Oct 13, 2008 10:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Umm guys, read down below... by blzrfan

It’s long and maybe why it’s not rec’d as much. Valid points through and through.

Does this mean I have to like Diogu now???

by Ike_o_rama! on Oct 11, 2008 6:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

dangit, above!!!

Does this mean I have to like Diogu now???

by Ike_o_rama! on Oct 11, 2008 6:36 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I recommended both. Both teams played hard.

Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16

by amlmart1 on Oct 11, 2008 10:42 PM PDT to parent up   2 recs

Lol Someone should CTC for you, amlmart.

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics

by MiledAnimal on Oct 12, 2008 8:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

CTC?

Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16

by amlmart1 on Oct 13, 2008 8:53 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

CTC defined

As in “Cut the Check” – infamous quote from Rasheed about getting traded and his lack of loyalty to any particular team. Made shortly before he was traded to Atlanta by the Blazers.

"I don’t give a (expletive) about no trade rumors. As long as somebody ‘CTC,’ at the end of the day I’m with them. For all you that don’t know what CTC means, that’s ‘Cut the Check. I just go out there and play. Again, somebody just ’CTC.’ "

                     — Rasheed Wallace

by DonkeyShins on Oct 13, 2008 9:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

some thoughts

…this is the sort of thing that is cropping up about Travis Outlaw based solely on his performances over the past two games pre-season games.

This is simply not true. Many people on this site have been expressing these concerns about Outlaw for much much longer than that. All sumer and most of last season. The fact that they were usually quickly drowned out with a chorus of “#25” does not make these comments a new phenomena.

I’m no Outlaw hater, but I try to evaluate my Blazers rationally. I have a hard time justifying putting huge stock in a guy who only helps the team when his shot is falling. Good players in this league are able to benefit their team in other ways, even when their shot is off. As of yet, Travis has not shown the ability to do that.

Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.

by douglast on Oct 11, 2008 9:57 AM PDT   2 recs

I agree, but to be fair to travis, he play's great off ball D, after he loses his man, and kinda starting the offensive....

….play to begin with.

I’m not sure if that’s praise, or critic’in him, but I do love his blocks n his little looks afterwards.

The faith (and I'm a guy) perverts. :)

by faith on Oct 11, 2008 10:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes. Nobody should panic based on two AWFUL preseason games from Trout.

It’s unreasonable to conclude that Trout won’t get back to the last year’s form based on a couple preseason games. But as you alluded to … there is reason to be a little concerned:

1) Trout’s role has changed with Martell’s injury. Can he adjust? Can he D up? Can he avoid using shots better taken by Roy/LMA/Oden when he’s cold?

2) Trout clamored over the offseason for more shots. If anything, he should be taking less shots this year. He is one of the least efficient scorers (if not the least efficient) on the team.

3) The stakes are higher. If the wheels fall off for Trout, who can step in and take his place while Martell’s down? Can Roy slide over to the three for an extended stretch and let Rudy play the two?

4) He’s not one of the smarter players on this team. If Roy or LMA goes ice cold for a few games, it means they’re not dropping 20 on a given night. But those guys are too smart to kill the team by continuing to take shots that aren’t falling. Trout is not.

All in all, no reason to panic. Certainly, no reason to talk about trading Outlaw – if that were even in play. But could this be a factor that prevents the Blazers from making the leap into legitimate contention with NO, Utah, etc. this year? Unfortunately … yes.

Bayless isn't the second coming of Jordan.
Jordan was the first coming of Bayless.

by KP Corleone on Oct 11, 2008 12:41 PM PDT   1 recs

Very well done.

I am a proponent to trading Outlaw, but everything you said was well said and valid. Just because I don’t agree with the end result doesn’t mean I won’t rec this.
+1

Does this mean I have to like Diogu now???

by Ike_o_rama! on Oct 11, 2008 6:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Excellent points

I agree, there’s nothing there that means we MUST trade Travis, but there are some valid concerns with his game in the long term which mean if a trade arises that makes sense there’s more reason to pull the trigger.

by zaruga on Oct 12, 2008 1:30 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

OK I am on board with this

I agree that Travis’ style of play (deficiencies included) will be less effective this year due to the new configuration of the team.

And Travis himself would seem to be more comfortable on a team where he is numero uno. So perhaps a trade would be the best option for everyone. I would feel bad seeing him play for another team, though.

Nature bats last.

by fisheyes on Oct 12, 2008 10:24 AM PDT   0 recs

Travis Outlaw is the last Jail Blazer

Don’t believe me?

  • Trader Bob drafted him.
  • Travis’ last name is what…?
  • Trout and other fishes hate him and his nickname.

"Personally, I'd rather give an elephant a prostate exam on Chili Day." --Dave on rooting for the Lakers or Celtics

by MiledAnimal on Oct 12, 2008 8:23 PM PDT   0 recs

ATF, where are you?

get that new internet going.

by Section323 on Oct 12, 2008 8:34 PM PDT   0 recs

Here I am! My laptop died the night before I left Oregon

so I try to check in at the libraries we pass on our travels. I can barely keep up with happenings here at the Bedge, and I only know who wins way after the fact. Hopefully, someone can take over #25ing people for me until I can get a new laptop.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Oct 13, 2008 8:45 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm glad you checked in

I was starting to get a little worried.
Hope your move is going well.

by Section323 on Oct 13, 2008 12:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think she's on the run

Blazers Edge has an alarmist vision and a poet's heart.

by tominhawaii on Oct 13, 2008 2:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Curses! Foiled again.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Oct 16, 2008 9:08 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

They were looking for you in another post

I think 67 said he thought I said you are on the lam because your a fan of Outlaw. I didn’t make the connection until he did.

Blazers Edge has an alarmist vision and a poet's heart.

by tominhawaii on Oct 16, 2008 9:13 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs