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Rudy scares ACB´s teams

His stats today against Vive Menorca: 31:28 min., 35 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, 3 TO, 1 block and 1 foul, shooting 8/9, 3/9, 10/12. As usually, was hardly defended receiving 13 fouls. Was the MVP of the game, with a ranking (or efficiency) of 41, followed by Ratko Varda (eff. 17) and Ricky Rubio (eff. 16). 24 of his points were in the second half. And his team won the game.

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wow
he's really en fuego, isn't he?  how does he rate among the high scorers in the league?

by shralpster on Jan 20, 2008 10:27 AM PST reply actions  

1st scorer
5th  assisting, 4th stealer, 1st three pointer
From Spain

by amlmart1 on Jan 20, 2008 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Amazing
I can't believe he is averaging less then 30 pts.per your updates. What are his statistical rankings and averages, animart?
Hate the game, not the player.

by Rodendridge on Jan 20, 2008 10:37 AM PST reply actions  

sweet
I have wanted his game log page but couldnt find it on that site.  I am loving the rudy updates amlmart.  thanks again...
RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Jan 20, 2008 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Website
If you are having problems finding stats, look for these words: "Liga ACB 2007-2008". "Partidos jugados desde la jornada 1 a la 18"(That means: "ACB League 2007-2008. Game played from 1 to 18"). Watch bellow.

All those numbers are Rudy´s stats game by game (it´s dificult not to see all those numbers). First number, from left to right, is the number of the game, ordered from old to next. Next to the right you find the name of the teams that played (only 3 letters for each one). Next to the right you find the minutes ("min.") Rudy played in that game. And, so on, "Points", throws for 2, 3 or 1 point ("T2, T3, T1"), Rebounds. Assists, Steals, counterattacks, blocks (made + received), dunks, fouls (made + received) and finally efficiency. For example, if you look for the 18 game played today you should find these numbers:

18 DKV-MEN 31' 35 8/9 89% 3/9 33% 10/12 83% 3 (2+1) 3    2 4 2 1+0 4 2 13 42.

Bellow this line you find first the one with all games acumulated stats and bellow the one with the average.

Finally, you may see one little arrow to the left (yours again) of each number of game. If you click on the arrow you can watch all the players stats, so can compare and understand the level of a player in ACB standards.

"Tony Parker just made the worst pass... in the history of Western Civilization!" B Walton.

by amlmart1 on Jan 20, 2008 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Question
what do you mean by hardly defended? Are you saying that he was fouled 13 times (my guess.) or that he had 13 fouls, which would not be so hot.

I am hoping that he is getting fouled frequently because he so ustoppable and not because teams just play lousy defense on him, which I imagine is not the case, as the few Euroleague games I have watched the defenders are allowed a lot of leeway on calls.

Thanks for the update. I really like your posts and hope they continue.

To all the other BE readers. I think we should take a up a little cash collection and send a BE tshirt amlmart1's way. This could be crudely modified to say "Spanish correspondent". Part of this deal would be having amlmart1 send us some pictures of him wearing the shirt do something awesome, like dribbling a basketball while being chased by bulls in pamplona. Lets get some momentum behind this.

by jonestr on Jan 20, 2008 10:57 AM PST reply actions  

Better yet,
how about a Blazer shirt w/ Sergio's #?

by crakarjack on Jan 20, 2008 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I've seen it in other posts
the 13 is the number of fouls that Rudy drew.  Kind of a neat stat since we only seem to care about fouls that get someone to the free throw line.
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by tominhawaii on Jan 20, 2008 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

STOP, STOP
I´m very impressed but I wanted to reduce my debt. What are you doing posting about increase it?. Do you want to send me one of those subprime mortgages?.  I´ve just arrived and I owe yet something to the collectivity. You guys are my gift. I don´t need more. Another question: What would be a typical Tominhawaii´s Reply to your post?: ........ "Something in marble?".
From Spain

by amlmart1 on Jan 20, 2008 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Come on
Your posts give us information that we would not otherwise get and we can ask you questions as well. This awesome, and if everyone showed their gratitude and expanded the BlazersEdge empire at the same time; it would be a win win situation.

If you owe us anything, it is a high five. That is if you make it over to the US or any BE readers make it to Spain.

Keep up the posting. I look forward to them.

by jonestr on Jan 20, 2008 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Use of the word "hardly"
I was going to correct his previous use of the word "hardly defended" to mean "defended really hard" but it turns out that is the original definition of the word. (Merriam Webster says the first definition is "with force: vigorously." weird, huh?)

It appears to have evolved to its more common usage, to mean "not much at all" which is of course the opposite of vigorously.

Just for your information, amlart1, when we read "hardly defended," we think they didn't defend him much.

by Section323 on Jan 20, 2008 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks
What a wonderful thing the use of languages. And How much I like "Let's Call The Whole Thing Off" by Louis Armstrong.
"Tony Parker just made the worst pass... in the history of Western Civilization!" B Walton.

by amlmart1 on Jan 20, 2008 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I love the fact...
that he's not settling for jumpers all the time. This guy can get to the basket and draw fouls.

by TallTimber on Jan 20, 2008 12:33 PM PST reply actions  

shooting ratios
can someone explain them?

shooting 8/9, 3/9, 10/12

i assume the 10/12 is FTs

by Philthyanimal on Jan 20, 2008 1:08 PM PST reply actions  

It is
FG, 3PT, FT

So his totals would be, in a more traditional box score format,

11-18 FG (3-9 3PT), 10-12 FT

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by supremepuntiff on Jan 20, 2008 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the way they report it
2-Pt and 3-Pt shots should be separated.

50% on 2-Pt Attempts equal 33% on a 3-Pt Attempts.

To me, overall FG% is relatively meaningless to guys who shoot a lot of 3's.

Look at BRoy. Overall he shooting an average 46%. He is shooting a good 49% from 2 and a decent 34% from 3. The 46% doesn't tell the real story. That's one of my pet peeves.

by TallTimber on Jan 20, 2008 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

A few minutes video
http://www.as.com/baloncesto/video/dkv-joventut-87-vivemenorca/dasbal/20080120dasdasbal_7/Ves
"Tony Parker just made the worst pass... in the history of Western Civilization!" B Walton.

by amlmart1 on Jan 20, 2008 4:03 PM PST reply actions  

How do you say alley oop in spanish?
Also, does European basketball use Metric time?
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by tominhawaii on Jan 20, 2008 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

At a hundred minutes per hour,
that makes for a long eight hour work day.
I'm not stubborn, just obstinate

by T Darkstar on Jan 20, 2008 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Crap
I didn't capitalize "Spanish."  I promise not to watch NFL playoffs and go to Blazers Edge at the same time for at least a year.
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by tominhawaii on Jan 20, 2008 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Good morning.
Spaniards agree with Anglo-Babylonian Time (ABT) because don´t affect to our siesta.

Why they say "Metric" system in the place of "Decimal", when all systems are metric, regarding the latin´s origin of the word?.

"Tony Parker just made the worst pass... in the history of Western Civilization!" B Walton.

by amlmart1 on Jan 20, 2008 11:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Blame the Brits
They're probably the ones who started using "metric".  I'm now convinced that most bad things in the history of the English language probably started either in South Cornwall or Glasgow.

by jscot on Jan 21, 2008 12:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I like Tommies
In the UK everything seems made to throw off the invader, both in peacetime and in wartime.
The masking of the street names and numbers of the houses, for example, is a weapon that the General Staffs from all over the world used to disorient the paratroopers. The British practice it extremely well in peacetime .
It is impossible, for a foreigner with a normal memory, learn the full address of an Englishman who lives in the countryside. The most he can retain is something like ...
Mayor Marmaduke Thompson
"The Tower"
Rowland's Castle
Rowland Hill Road
Malborough Heinghts
Pendleton
Hampshire
... But, bearing in mind that none of these words are pronounced as written, how visitors aren´t going to forget about half?.
When I arrived in Penddleton, started by learn that was not there, but already on the outskirts of the town, exactly Fortescue. Once reached a height (as it passes through it I knew was the Malborough), I was lucky enough to enter into an avenue unnamed, but then were kind enough to tell me that was called Rowland Hill Road.
That avenue was flanked by about fifty brick houses that were not distinguished from each other by more than its floral decoration.
In most countries, when a house is completed, the architects will go a little further and strive to build a different one. Here, when a house is finished, they do not lose an inch of land and, side by side, built the same house. Actually, only when an Englishman sees his wife's face can be sure to have entered his house, admitting that he´s not a drunk.
In Rowland Hill Road I noticed that some houses bore a name, a number other, never both, and sometimes neither one nor the other.
I asked a neighbor, who was working in his garden, if it knew the house of Mayor Thompson.
-- Do you mean The Castle?.
-- No, The Tower ...
-- Yes, it is the same.
I discovered then that Mayor was living in The Tower, which was The Castle, Penddleton, which was Fortescue. Overall, quite far from Rowland Hill Road, which had left behind was quite a while, but in which I still continued to face.
It is fair to clarify that things are just as well in the field. In London is much more complicated. In fact, there almost all houses resemble but have exceptional numbers. The search for the very Victorian mansion Mrs Cripplestone in Lavendish Lane had made me lose precious time by the very stupidly attempt to find the number 58 between 56 and 60.
-- Look around here - told me a dealer, and took me by the side of the number 37.
It can happen that a number is in place, but after some time people is so used to not find that you no longer looks around. Typically, the numbers do not follow order, it would be too monotonous. On one side of the street increases, on the other decreases. Sometimes, number stops its decreasing and begins to increase but later, tired, decreases again.
The same streets are extremely capricious. Just a moment of visitor´s distraction and have changed their names or vanished. Sometimes, lose their name for a minute, get another, and then, as if they had thought, recover the previous one. Marvellous fantasy!.
It can also happen that a street continue carrying the same name to his right side, but will change its name to the left.
Pochet, my friend, just the other day, he earned a reprimand because his wife arrived three hours late at number 55 Prince's Gate, simply because they had forgotten to tell who was on Exhibition Road.
British streets, not only get tired of always using the same name, neither want to be tied ever at the same neighborhood .
It is the sporty side of the English topography, with its glorious uncertainty, due to a fundamental law of the United Kingdom: always give opportunity to the unexpected and the weak. This applies, for example, to the fox: shooting would be disgraceful .
If there were no twenty-three High Street, thirteen King Street and eleven Duke Street in London, what would be the merit to find your own house?.
The same British are lost in its labyrinth. How could happen otherwise?.
One day I was walking down Avenue Shrewbury looking for Shrewbury´s Place and expecting to see the place soon. But in England as a place is anything but a place. A place is a square. But a square can be a close. But observe that a close can be a tiny street. Like an avenue can be a square. In any event, which simplifies the issue is that a "terrace" is never a terrace. It is simply a street. Why break your head?.
Only if you are cursed with the logic of a Continental, you try to find a garden in a "garden" and a gate in a "gate". That shows a lot candidly. When you think that there are sixty-five ways to say street in England, why strive to simply say street?. Mews or crescent is a lot more fun.
"Tony Parker just made the worst pass... in the history of Western Civilization!" B Walton.

by amlmart1 on Jan 22, 2008 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

There is no answer to this
Except to say that if you do not realize how hilarious this dissertation was, you have to go visit England for a month, and spend every day trying to find various addresses that you have pulled out of the phone book.

Scotland isn't generally as bad, but that is just because there are fewer people and houses.

On the other hand, you could try driving in Paris, or Chartres, or various places in Germany.  Although maybe my German experience was so bad because my Deutsche does not spreche, or verstehe, or anything else.

by jscot on Jan 22, 2008 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I get much funny with your posts
And I extracted and translated this story from a text by Pierre Daninos. It would have been great to be its author.
"Tony Parker just made the worst pass... in the history of Western Civilization!" B Walton.

by amlmart1 on Jan 22, 2008 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw Rudy has his first name on his jersey
Is that common?
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by tominhawaii on Jan 21, 2008 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

All players has
Name or first name or nickname
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by amlmart1 on Jan 21, 2008 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Tanks brah
mahalo
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by tominhawaii on Jan 21, 2008 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Nothing at all, brother
We have no special words to say "alley oop". We use "alley oop" or we describe the action like "assists in the air and dunk".
"Tony Parker just made the worst pass... in the history of Western Civilization!" B Walton.

by amlmart1 on Jan 21, 2008 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

counterattacks?
I guess it means turnover in American basketball, right?

by iverigma2 on Jan 20, 2008 11:04 PM PST reply actions  

Luke 9:50
But Jesus said to him, "Do not hinder him; for he who is not against you is for you."
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by tominhawaii on Jan 20, 2008 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the update
A few cautions might be needed for Blazer fans. Rudy is clearly a marvelous talent but this league has had many of those who did not ever become more than just a guy. For Portland it is clear that until you play good defense you likely won't play much for Coach Nate. Now Rudy may be the best defender we have when he comes but the clips I have seen are mostly lacking in defense and it is a learning process to gain that. Also another factor I think Coach Nate values highly in his guards is the ability to play either position and defend either position. Jack and Roy and Blake all do this to varying degrees. Just as Sergio needs improvement in his defense and his shooting Rudy will maybe need improvement in his ball handling and passing. The speed and power of the NBA game is said to be unlike anywhere else in the world and it seems to take adjustment. Ok - end of cautions. Back to our regularly scheduled adulations.

by lee3022 on Jan 20, 2008 11:33 PM PST reply actions  

Illusions also keep us alive
Not all is bread and butter. Oh my god Bacchus, wine is important too.
And we euros get drunk frecuently and then, in the moments of friendship exaltation and singing regional songs, we overrate the few players we have there because they seem to be more.

I admit, I fear what will happen when Rudy gets to the NBA, but I have a lot of confidence in him.

"Tony Parker just made the worst pass... in the history of Western Civilization!" B Walton.

by amlmart1 on Jan 21, 2008 1:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmm....
He may very well fall by the NBA wayside, but with the way he is currently playing in what our very own KP dubs the 'second-best league in the world' we should all revel in the drunken frenzy we are afforded as part of the Bacchic hoard.  Let us all drink from the vine of Dionysus!

GO BLAZERS!!!!!

by GimmeIme on Jan 21, 2008 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

He does average more assists
than the highly thought of Ricky Rubio(a point guard).  Have you actually watched Rudy play a full game before???
RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Jan 21, 2008 11:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Watching...
I can watch Rudy´s games once a month or so. But I am looking to watch games by Internet. If I find the way I´tell you the Website. Now I´m trying in China!!!!.
"Tony Parker just made the worst pass... in the history of Western Civilization!" B Walton.

by amlmart1 on Jan 22, 2008 3:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Comparable to...
One thing that I wonder is exactly how Rudy's game will play in the NBA - I'm sure most of us share that concern.  Did you, amimart1, get to see much of Juan Carlos Navarro in Spain?  I'm wondering if he's a reasonable comparison...

by BRich on Jan 20, 2008 11:35 PM PST reply actions  

Comparable but...
I have seen a lot of Navarro and I think is a very valuable player who will succed in NBA. In the unofficial world junior championship in Portugal in the summer of 1999, Spain defeated the United States in the finals by 94-87. Juan Carlos Navarro made 27 points and was chosen MVP of the tournament, so he had the potential to be a real NBA player.

Navarro is born 06/13/1980, has not jump shoot, has not great fade away or jump, isn´t tall, is a weak defender... but also has enormous self-confidence, good movements, great intelligence for the game and a hand of gold.

Rudy is younger, taller, faster, much better defender, similar shooter, has good fade away and shot jumper and his stats now -18 first games in 2007-2008 ACB´s regular season-  are better than Navarro´s ones last season: ttp://www.acb.com/stspartidojug.php.

Stats can´t not explain all, who knows what will happen, but Rudy seems to be special and without comparison between Spanish players.

"Tony Parker just made the worst pass... in the history of Western Civilization!" B Walton.

by amlmart1 on Jan 21, 2008 3:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Overrated
All you guys raving about Rudy, he's overrated.

Look at his assist to turnover ratio in that game, it's 1 to 1.

Who cares if he can shoot the lights out, draw fouls like crazy, and is totally unstoppable.  If he were here, someone would be looking at that ratio and saying we should trade him.

by jscot on Jan 21, 2008 12:00 AM PST reply actions  

I've seen enough to
know that he'll never make it in the NBA.  Among the league leaders in ppg, apg, three-point percentage, and spg?  Bah, I say.  I agree with Jscot, except that instead of trading him, we should just renounce his rights now so he'll never sully a Blazer uniform.

by BlazersOrBust on Jan 21, 2008 2:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Buy out
Can Paul Allen buy out somebody who doesn't even have a contract yet?  It would be worth it, don't you think?

by jscot on Jan 21, 2008 4:25 AM PST up reply actions  

A very bold prediction...
One that I will hold you to next year.  I like to see that not all are impressed with the highlight reel and are willing to take a stance like this.  I, on the other hand see him winning Sixth Man of the Year in '08-'09, it'll be fun to see which end of our spectrum he ends up on.

by GimmeIme on Jan 21, 2008 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha!
I was worried that I may not have made my attempt at irony clear enough.  Jscot here has posted several times about how easy it is to suggest multimillion-dollar buyouts when you're not spending your own millions, and also how people need to quit calling for Jack/Sergio/Et. Al.'s heads after a bad game, and I was agreeing with him.  I love Rudy and think his game will translate very well based on his current stats projected against Gasol/Calderon/Navarro's in the Spanish league -- for my money, NEXT year's ROY runner-up to that big guy sitting on our bench.

by BlazersOrBust on Jan 22, 2008 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

35 points is 35 points
Hard to cry overrated when he can spot the bucket for 35 points!!!

by ladygonegrey on Jan 22, 2008 12:06 AM PST reply actions  

I was joking
A guy who is scoring that much has to be handling the ball a lot.  3 turnovers isn't a lot.

A turnover is little different from a missed shot.  If he had zero turnovers and missed three more shots, no one would be complaining about his shooting percentage, would they?

My comment was more directed to a few people around here who focus on a few bad statistics and decide we need to dump players as a result.

by jscot on Jan 22, 2008 12:48 AM PST reply actions  

Sorry about that
I guess I jumped all over it because I too am frustrated with all the whining about insignificant things.  Patience is sorely needed to be a NBA fan.  Seasons are long and development of young players takes even longer.

by ladygonegrey on Jan 23, 2008 12:14 AM PST up reply actions  

No problem
I've taken to not arguing with people and just making fun of the attitude.  It's more fun that way.

I could have written a diary about the Atlanta game saying that everyone who wants to do something drastic about Sergio should just sit tight, he showed his obvious potential.  Instead, I had a lot more fun calling him a cancer -- but I think most people saw my point.

by jscot on Jan 23, 2008 12:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Cancer
He may not be a cancer, but he might have cancer from smoking.  In the least, he may have a child with birth defects if he doesn't stop smoking.

I wish Fatty was here to talk about Euro's smoking.  I'm getting tired of it but I like the idea of them smoking in amlmart1's caricatures.

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by tominhawaii on Jan 23, 2008 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Doctor
Doctor, did you said capricorn?.
No, "cancer", I said cancer.

Elisabeth, what´s the name of the German who´s hiding my things all time?
Alzheimer, granfather, Alzheimer.

"Tony Parker just made the worst pass... in the history of Western Civilization!" B Walton.

by amlmart1 on Jan 23, 2008 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Ohh, I got an old one
A guy gets a call from his doctor and they set up a meeting.  The doctor tells him I have bad new and worse news.

The guy says, "OK, give it to me."

The doctor says, "You have cancer and only six months to live."

The guy says, "Wow, that is bad, what can you tell me that is worse than that."

The doctor says, "I should have told you five months ago."

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by tominhawaii on Jan 23, 2008 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Only lawyers
I hate more than doctors.
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by amlmart1 on Jan 24, 2008 2:39 AM PST up reply actions  

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