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The Blazers and the Spurs

I was watching the Spurs last night and had a couple of thoughts I thought I'd share. After all, despite people saying they're boring and any number of pejoratives, it's hard not to view them as a model franchise and certainly KP admires them.

  1. Ginobili. Do you know who Brandon Roy is? Ginobili. Now look, before you start calling me a lunatic for comparing an all-star and MVP candidate to someone's sixth man just look at the game. Ginobili plays with that same deceptive speed, the controlled pace, the drive-and-kick and the drive-and-finish. It's eerie how similar the theoretical approach of those two players is. And ponder this: if Blazers had had Oden and LMA in the linup for 3 years and then Roy had joined the team, wouldn't his career trajectory have been radically different? Circumstances play a role (as well as amazing talent and godlike willpower) in creating an MVP. I regard Ginobili as a great player. There are far worse people Roy could be compared to.
  2. Tony Parker. In looking at the Spurs as a team we would aspire to be, who is our Tony Parker? Is it Blake? No. Is it Jack? No. Is it Sergio? Well, I have to say he has the best chance of achieving it out of our 3 point guards. In JQ's excellent chat this week, he mentioned that Sergio may end up getting traded. That he wasn't a "good fit" with Nate. I think we can all agree on that. I'm a Surge man-crush guy but I have to say that, for the greater good of the team, we may end up letting him go. After all, we can't have all the talent. But I can't help thinking we're letting one get away in Surge. We can easily live without and replace Blake and Jack (okay "easily" is a stretch but they're not irreplacable). Surge, I don't know. I feel he may end up being someone's Tony Parker.
  3. Duncan. It's hard not to watch Duncan and think LMA. Every time Duncan calmly hit one of those bank shots I think of LMA's feathery outside jumper. Duncan's got some great moves to the basket but at the end of the day I regard him as a kind of face-up player, which seems to be LMA's pursuit.
  4. Barry. I watched this guy just sit on the sidelines and shoot 3's. If that isn't Webster, I don't know what is. At least, it's what Webster appears to be consigned to do. I wish he would do more. I'm puzzled by the guy. He's one who's reliability game in and game out I question. Ultimately, if he could give the Blazers some reliable, Barry-like 3pt shooting, I think we'd all be very happy.
  5. Poppovich. I love stability at the coaching position. I love the predictability, the certainty, and the authority that comes with a long-term coach. For how much I'm puzzled about Joel and Surge, I'm no longer thinking of doing anything but keeping Nate long-term. I want him just like SA has had Poppovich for so long.
I think KP has openly admired San Antonio for a long time and I think these teams are being built upon similar lines. Watching SA now, I feel like I'm watching Portland's future.

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Except the Spurs don't have
one Greg Oden...

And the Blazers don't have a lock-down defender like Bowen.

by Blazerholic on Jan 18, 2008 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

Agreed!
Oden is the big unknown here.

But I privately feel he'll take 2-3 years to really come into his own. We're going to see lots of fouls next year.

by Fizbin on Jan 18, 2008 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Roy is more controlled than Ginobli
and doesn't complain half as much. much better body control with less speed
Travis Outlaw drops the sledgehammer on Daequan Cook for a dunk so vicious, it's illegal in 48 states.

by BlazerBandit on Jan 18, 2008 7:08 PM PST reply actions  

Disagree
I think Ginobli has superb body control. It may not seem it, because of his ungainly flailing after being lightly brushed, but he does a great job setting up his defender in order to attack at his preferred angles to the basket.  He's one of the best players I've seen at splitting double-teams on pick-and-rolls, and also at slithering his way through the lane to finish at the rim.  And he finishes after contact as well as any guard in the league besides Kobe and LBJ.  I'm no Spurs expert or anything, but I think Manu's got great game.

by BlazersOrBust on Jan 19, 2008 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think
That you are allowed to compare white people to black people in the NBA.  Has any black players ever been called "the next Larry Bird?"

I mean, I think you can.  I just don't think anyone ever will.  

Our blog administrator could beat up your blog administrator.

by tominhawaii on Jan 19, 2008 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

You "CAN"
But you MAY NOT.  Comparing a black player to a white player is racist because it isn't pigeon holing the player enough.  If you are able to see past the exterior and examine how they play, I have nothing to say to you, you HITLER.  You make me PUKE, PUKE out of my REAR END.

I compared Durant to Dirty Dirk Nowitzki before the draft, and I was fired from my job due to media pressure and protests over my blatantly racist comparison.  Having learned the error of my ways, I feel like I should accuse you of being a bad person.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jan 20, 2008 12:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Hitler?
I'm more of a Strom Thurmond with a Korean wife and less passion for civil rights.  I went to high school in Alabama.

I really don't know where I'm going with this.  It's really hard to try to find a reformed racist to compare myself too since I'm not racist and never have been a racist.  I was looking to play the "I'm not racist, I have black friends" card.  Maybe I should have used Mark Fuhrman.

Our blog administrator could beat up your blog administrator.

by tominhawaii on Jan 20, 2008 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.
"No way. I love this town. We're gonna bring back the glory years. These boys are my boys. This is my team and my town." - Greg Oden when asked about leaving.

by ratbastird on Jan 20, 2008 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

And they don't have ...
Travis Outlaw or Jarrett Jack, either.

Our bench is cold-blooded. Theirs is just cold.

by bfan on Jan 18, 2008 9:49 PM PST reply actions  

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