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What It's Like

One of our fine readers e-mailed and suggested that I do a piece on what it's like to do the blog, especially when things get "frisky", so to speak.  I think the general idea was to share the highs and lows and such.

Frankly I usually resist such things because I've always operated on the premise that the site isn't about me.  I have been disappointed with sports media in the last decade or so specifically because it has become so personality-oriented.  It doesn't matter so much what's said, it's who's saying it and how that counts.  One only has to listen to Stephen A. Smith braying incessantly to see what I mean.  This blog isn't about me and never will be about me.  It's about the Blazers and Blazer fans.

However given that we've talked so much about conversational parameters, conflict, and fair discussion in the past few months I thought at least this much sharing would be helpful.

Honestly it isn't always easy to do the blog or to be in conversation.  Whenever you speak in public you're putting yourself out there.  When I do a basically positive piece some folks are going to say it's too pie-in-the-sky.  If I have some critcisms other folks are going to say I have a negative outlook.  No matter what I say people are going to characterize it and classify it because you just can't talk to people in our society today unless you figure out what they are.  People can't just be people with opinions and ideas that should be examined and discussed on their own merits.  They have to be "conservative" or "liberal", "in" or "out", or whatever the dichotomy du jour is.  God forbid you should make a nuanced point.  It'll probably get lost behind the labels.  Often times it seems people don't want to hear what you have to say.  Rather they want to categorize you as quickly as possible so they don't have to bother hearing what you have to say.  This is typical of our society as a whole (look at what passes for news coverage of politics nowadays, for instance) and online conversation is hardly immune.

I've heard people say I write certain things just to get a rise out of people and thus more readership.  I've heard people say that I don't write certain things because I don't want to offend my readership, or at least certain parts of it.  I've heard people say I do things so I can attract advertisers.  Really all I've ever done is try to do the best blog I know how, to write as honestly and openly as I know how, and to make this place as accessible and friendly as possible for any Blazer or NBA fan who wants to be here no matter what their outlook.

So I guess my e-mailing friend was right that there are frustrations.  But really I'm not complaining.  I listed them out for a specific purpose...so you will know what I mean when I say this:

All of it put together isn't even a speck when set beside the wonderful rewards of being here and doing this.  The frustrations are amazingly minimal for an enterprise of this size and for a topic so passionate and arguable.  The great comments, the stimulating conversation, the good energy of this place outweigh the bumps in the road a hundredfold.  It always has, it always will.

Remembering that helps me be gracious even in the face of occasional graceless comments.  Remembering that helps me rejoice when people differ from me--enjoying the conversation and the argument instead of resenting it.  (It would be pretty dull if everybody in the world said, "Yup!  'Nuff said."  Debate is half the fun of being a fan!)  Remembering that lets me be comfortable with letting someone else have the last word in the conversation.  Remembering that helps me see the best in what people are trying to say instead of assuming the worst.  Remembering that gives me that little thrill of excitement every time I click on Blazersedge...wondering what will be new today.  And there's always something new.

The wonderful conversation and the chance to be Blazer fans together are amazing rewards for just being here and typing a little.  For someone who's been Blazer fan since I was a kid I can't think of many things better.

My hope is that my saying all that out loud will help you also when you feel slighted or tense or misunderstood by somebody's comments.  It's going to happen.  But it's not really that bad.  It won't really break things unless you let it.  And why bother letting it when there's so much else to do and hear and say?

If there's one thing I've learned about sports it's this:  Sports isn't about balls or scores or arenas or plays.  Sports is about people.  It's about people getting together, having a common focus, believing, experiencing, and enjoying.  Without the people who surround it--the players, the office folks, the fans, the city--it doesn't mean anything.

This blog is the same way.  It's about people.  It's about believing in something.  It's about being together.  Without those things the most insightful analysis on the planet means nothing.

I'll never forget the moment I knew that we really had something here.  It was quite a few months ago.  I don't remember who actually made the comment but I remember reading it clear as day.  It was in a diary.  The comment said, "Hey...I apologize.  I didn't say what I wanted to say there.  This is what I meant..."  It was simple, sincere, and honest.  Several people have said the same thing since.  But when I read it the very first time I got really happy because you know what?  People don't say that to people, or in places, that they don't care about.  90% of online conversation is completely anonymous and sadly meaningless.  That's the moment I knew we were different.  That's the moment I knew this place was real.  

Caring a lot about the team, about the city, and about other fans has always been a hallmark of Blazermania. When I read the comments here, that kind and all the wonderful conversation besides, that's when I know the Blazermania I've known and loved is back.  The Blazers are certainly its focal point but it's not just about the team.  It's about us and what we do because of our mutual love of the team.  That's the way it's always been.  And it's just as powerful as it ever was.

Thanks for the questions and the comments.  And thanks for being willing to be a part of this.  It continues to be a wonderful ride and it will only get better.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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Dave, I can't imagine anyone
having reason to complain, question or critize what you do with this site. You are knowledgeable thoughtful, even keeled and very well written.  You help provide us with information we previously had to depend on mainstream media for, while at the same time offer a forum to express our own thoughts, ideas and feelings.  Perhaps best of all, you come across as a caring individual, but one with standards that you are willing to stick to.  

For all those reasons, BlazersEdge has become a major time suck for me.  I'm hooked and it's all because of the wonderful job you do.

by timg56 on Sep 7, 2007 6:32 AM PDT reply actions  

ditto +
I often have very little reason to comment on any given post due to the compehensive initial post and user posts thereafter.  The combination of both usually covers all angles.  A very rich forum that I read throughout the day.

Cheers,
DC

"I immediately regret this decision." Ron Burgundy

by dcblazer on Sep 7, 2007 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yah
People don't give me much crap really.  In fact I probably get less than most semi-popular bloggers I know.  I guess the point for all of us is that the little bit of crap we do get isn't worth losing sight of the bigger picture.

--Dave

by Dave on Sep 7, 2007 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice piece Dave
I've been following "the edge" for about a month now thanks to a TrueHoop reference.  Definitely enjoy your pieces, and appreciate you throwing subjects out there for round-robin discussion.  You are truly correct, sports really is about "people."  If we were just in it for a championship only 1 fan-base would feel rewarded each year.  It's the years building up to what we will someday achieve...the constant circle of discussion and excitement building towards a championship season.  When our championship season arrives we can look back at previous years and hours upon hours of team discussions, and I'm sure we can all feel like we helped this team succeed!  In the least we are there for the highs and lows, proving our loyalty.  

by Lou9700 on Sep 7, 2007 9:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Now THAT
is either a beautiful truth, or a very pleasant fiction.  ; )

You hit a key topic in your post Lou, one that I will address in a diary very soon...

Like it or not, Rip City is Back

by sohrab19 on Sep 7, 2007 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dave is good people in my book
It is nice to see your take on things in just the blogging realm.  I always thought of you as a Zeus or King Solomon type of guy ruling over Blazers Edge.  Now I know there is a dash of Oprah in the Blazers Edge stir fry (The cake analogy has been taken.) and probably many more ingredients that I failed to mention.  

Stay gold Dave.  Stay gold.

If I had an extra hug, I would give it to you.

by tominhawaii on Sep 7, 2007 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

A veritable...
buffet of goodness?  (With a tip of the hat to Channing)

by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Sep 7, 2007 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Best measure of success?
I remember being shocked and thrilled when I stumbled across Blazer Thoughts back in the day.  All of the wonderful things that have been said apply and then some but the real measure of your success Dave is in the absolute explosion on this forum.  Truly amazing and in large part the credit goes to you and setting a terrific tone with all that you do and say.

Many thanks from a long suffering fan, you've enriched my experience immeasurably!

"I'm a buffet of goodness."

by TP43 on Sep 7, 2007 12:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Dave has a lot to do with it...
but you know and I know that people are REALLY hanging around here waiting to get my recipe for the perfect pot of beans.

by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Sep 7, 2007 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh?
You're just a big tease.
"I'm a buffet of goodness."

by TP43 on Sep 7, 2007 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Get off of my cloud
Dave, as I sit here chewing on the frozen Chinese dinner that my lovely wife has packed for me, I can't help but think of the many times your entries really hit a sweet spot in my Blazer heart.

In other words, you make me want to be a better fan.

Sniff, sniff.

I feel Blazer fans are the most blessed fans in the world, despite our many setbacks, we all know what we have here.

Thank you for working so hard to nurture it.

And you are so correct:  it will only get better.

Much, much better.

Like it or not, Rip City is Back

by sohrab19 on Sep 7, 2007 12:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Great post
Thanks for that, Dave.

But I just have to say, I don't believe you when you say that people accuse you of writing certain things just to get a rise out of people.  Because Dave never writes that kind of stuff, we all know that.

And we all know who does it, and who gets accused of it.  You can book that!

So if Dave says he is getting accused of it, then does that shed further light on the great identity questions of our time?

Oh, well, seriously, this is a great site, one of the absolute best I've ever seen.  Even when fans from other teams wander in, they are treated well.  And Dave, you are the one who sets the tone for all that.  Thanks, man.

by jscot on Sep 7, 2007 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Regarding your discussion about
being labled over expressing your opinions/assements:  I think a label applied to you a couple of days ago is not at all a bad thing.  You were called a realist.  Nothing wrong with that one.  I try to deal mostly with realism myself and it's realistic assesments and predictions that garner my interest.

Keep on keeping on Dave.

by TwoDeep on Sep 7, 2007 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I prefer
"realist" to "optimist" or "pessimist"...that's for sure.  If you have to have one, I suppose that label's not so bad.  But I wasn't referring to that post in particular.  Idog was particularly gracious to me in his diary.

--Dave

by Dave on Sep 7, 2007 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

New blogger, needed to comment
Blazer Dave,

Took up reading your blog about halfway through last season. Read it darn near every day since. Blazer Fans UNITE, and we will:

RULE THE WORLD.

From one fairly decent writer to an obvious very good one, thanks for your time and effort. Putting prose out there on a day to day basis is making you yes:

Vulnerable

Vulnerability to sports fans is risky business. I like to think that Blazer fans are a bit different. Different indeed.

You prove this with you and your blogging skills. Meaningful dialogue anywhere, anytime, anymore, is yes, hard to find. But I think if we all join together, hand in blazer symbol, we can:

RULE THE WORLD!

Or at least make the playoff next year.

Keep up the good work Dave.

Hrtlndblzrfn

by hrtlndblzrfn on Sep 7, 2007 5:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Gotta Say It
I hate to be the one to interrupt this back slapping party but I get a little fed up with the obsession with civility on this site. No swearing, sure, whatever, I can deal with that. But you should be able to bicker and fight and call each other names and label each other and not listen to each other's nuanced whatevers and generally say stupid stuff. It's America after all. And we're jocks on the internet! It just feels weird having to mind my manners so much when talking to a bunch of dudes about sports. It's a little stifling, frankly.

by Jumbo on Sep 7, 2007 5:58 PM PDT reply actions  

That is what this site is,
as long as Dave is running it.  If you don't want that, there are plenty of other places to be a jerk.  Back to the back-slapping party.
I got my front court aLaMOde!!

by shenanigans on Sep 7, 2007 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

See, that's what I'm talking about...
It's this "I'm-gonna-go-tell-DAVE!!!" attitude I get all the time. Quit policing me and telling me to go to other sites! Geez louise. It's annoying. (Veins aren't bulging, Dave. I'm annoyed, not angry). This is the only Blazer related, SB Nation, Scoopy, Diaried-up, easy to use site. I'm not going anywhere. All I'm asking is for a little tolerance of my occasional cantankery. Tolerance. We can all get behind that, right?

by Jumbo on Sep 8, 2007 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

All I meant was
Other blogs I've visited don't have the oversight/ desire for oversight that Dave's does.  Therefore, if Dave turns this'un over to someone else the blog may no longer carry the same rules with it.  That, as opposed to a blanket, 'This is how it is, and it always will be that way.'

But duuuuude, you're buuuusted.

I got my front court aLaMOde!!

by shenanigans on Sep 8, 2007 3:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tattle tale!
Yer totally gonna get it at recess!

by Jumbo on Sep 8, 2007 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can
argue as much as you like.  You can also spar, debate, joust, and disagree until the cows come home.  The thing is, it has to be on topic about the Blazers and the NBA...not about each other.  "Civility" in that sense is just another word for "Don't waste our time".  Every site I know of has very similar guidelines but few manage it.  Frankly I'm glad we do here.

But that doesn't preclude a little good-natured bickering.  When you have old, lecherous dolts like Ken around you pretty much have to throw an insult in now and again.  And I think there's been plenty of excitement in diaries to satisfy even the most argumentative soul.  I just hate it when:

A.  It gets personal and nasty for no reason.

and

B.  People get vein-bulging mad in response to something that should be fun.

However I will say this...sometimes when people are treating each other with kid gloves it does get smarmy.  I always squirm when I read posts that begin with a placating sentence like, "I really respect what you're saying, but..."  I always think, "Let your point out and let's have at it!"  But again, it's hard to have at it nowadays without people getting into camps ("haters" or "Kool-Aid Club" or what have you) and getting all offended.  In a way the civility is there to pave the way for more argument...or at least more fair and on-topic argument.  

Civil should NOT mean boring or people don't say what's on their mind.  As I said in the post, the day everybody agrees just to get along is the day conversation dies.

--Dave

by Dave on Sep 7, 2007 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow
That's outstanding.  I'm proud to be a member of this diverse Blazer-loving, Blazer-crazed community.  It's a dream come true for me.  Growing up, it was hard to find true Blazermaniacs unless I was at the Memorial Coliseum on a game night.  All my peers, it seemed, were obsessed with Jordan, and rooted for The Bulls.

PS, I, for one, am proud of being a "hater".

PPS, Just kidding.  But I am a card-carrying member of the Kool-Aid Club For Men.

Like it or not, Rip City is Back

by sohrab19 on Sep 7, 2007 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

How do you know Ken is old?
Better yet, how do you know he's lecherous?  

by timg56 on Sep 10, 2007 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks Tim....
Of course I would have rather you tackled the "dolt" part...

Evidently that part isn't in question.  :)

by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Sep 10, 2007 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well,
I missed it the first time through and when I did notice it, I couldn't think of anything to say.  

by timg56 on Sep 10, 2007 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

My wife hates that too
"I really respect what you're saying, but..."

I say, "I don't want to sound rude, but..." and she is already mad.

Like the other day, she said, "Do these pants make my butt look big?"  And I said, "I don't want to sound rude, but you probably shouldn't blame the pants."

If I had an extra hug, I would give it to you.

by tominhawaii on Sep 10, 2007 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Civil Site
I find that the things I like about this site are that the topics are well written and the responses are civil. The lack of trolls is interesting as well. I am not sure if this is because they get deleted as fast as they sprout up or because the site, in general, is so well behaved. I do know that if I am in a mode to put down a thoughtful comment I will likely post it here rather than other sites.

by 92wastheyear on Sep 7, 2007 7:16 PM PDT reply actions  

The ratio
of deleted comments here is about 1 in 3000.  I think I delete one every two weeks or so.  Sometimes they come in a raft in one thread and then the ratio goes up a little but that hasn't happened in a while.  Basically what you see here is what you get.

--Dave

by Dave on Sep 7, 2007 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

keeping your humility
has been key. ive been around other blogs where the diva or "star" has wanted to use the blog as a stepping stone to fame (sometimes theyre not sure exactly how, but i know of two cases in which it's worked)... the temptation to excessive vanity and a "cult of personality" is hard to resist.
ignacio

by ignacio on Sep 7, 2007 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

are you serious?
who on earth has gotten famous for blogging on someone else's site?

I mean I don't doubt you, but that's amusing.  somehow i picture stephen a smith, but i'm not sure if he can actually write.

Like it or not, Rip City is Back

by sohrab19 on Sep 7, 2007 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

famous (relatively) having their own blog
which has led to tv (in both cases) and opportunities to do op/eds for newspapers and magazines.

sorry, but im just not gonna mention names. one is my friend, one is (well) not really.

these are not sports blogs.

my point was that dave has avoided the "cult of dave" and good for him. he hasnt shut people up with "i've seen it up close and you havent" nor has he blogged about what he eats for breakfast or (as a hypothetical example) details of last night's pick-up game in which he starred.

he is popular enough he could probably get away with suchlike for a while. but he doesnt seem to be vain in that way.

thank god.

ignacio

by ignacio on Sep 8, 2007 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

The first guy that comes to mind
is Henry Abbott at Truehoop.  He managed to turn blogging into a paying job at ESPN.  (And has done so without the "cult" thing ignacio is referring to.)

Another that comes to mind is Matt Drudge.  I beleive he started out as a blogger.  

by timg56 on Sep 10, 2007 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

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