Radio Head
If you are of a certain generation then your earliest Blazer memories probably didn't start with event tickets or televised broadcasts, but with Bill Schonely's golden tones bringing you the games on the radio. Back in the day the Coliseum was full and relatively few games were televised. It just seemed natural to huddle around the radio, living and dying with every possession.
I will admit that I've always loved radio as a medium far more than television. From music to sports to old-time dramas to talk shows I've just never been able to get enough of it. There's something more intimate and relational about hearing someone convey meaning using just their voice instead of interpreting what you're already seeing, as with TV. Some things just transcend the visual, if you know what I mean.
That's not to say that I don't enjoy watching games on television nowadays. In fact being outside the broadcast area the dish is the only option I have for getting my Blazer fix. But there are obviously plenty of you who still take in the game the old-fashioned way with Brian Wheeler and Antonio Harvey. They still broadcast the games so somebody must be tuning in, right? I am especially eager to hear from you in this post.
Here are three things I'd like to know:
- If you do still listen to the radio broadcast, why? What draws you to that particular medium when TV is so readily available?
- What do you like best about listening to the game on the radio in general and about Wheels and Harvey in particular?
- For those who don't still listen, sharing past experiences (Wheeler or Schonely) is fine here too. This is sort of a general radio celebration thread with a tip of the hat to those who still follow that way, but sharing your warm, fuzzy past memories is also great. What particular calls or situations do you remember?
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Still love radio...
I actually like the Wheels/Harvey team. They work well together. Brian is very descriptive and gets excited like a real fan. Antonio is the 'workin' man's' analyst. He's unrefined, yet gives good insight from a player's perspective - like the guy next door.
Bill Schonely will always be the Voice of the Blazers. He was good, but to me, his defining feature WAS that voice - masculine, crisp with a pinch of a western twang.
As I've mentioned in previous posts, some of my best Blazer memories are of those fist-pumping, high-fiving, laughing/crying moments with my boys around that old radio.
One particular radio moment forever etched in my heart was a Chicago game in '79 or '80 when the Trailblazers came back from 8 points down with like 15 seconds left to win it in regulation. It was won on an inbounds lob (from Kermit?) for an alley-oop jam to Billy Ray Bates with less than a second left. The Schonz actually squealed like a pig as his voice skipped up about three octaves. That game instilled in me the truth of a well-worn motto: "It aint over 'til it's over".
The last two CWS runs by the OSU Beaver's baseball team were all radio for me. Mike Parker's calls of those games...well...it doesn't get any better!
In the glory days, seemingly every town in Oregon had a station carrying Trailblazer games. Now I have to pull all the way from KXL in Portland (from southern Oregon). Hopefully that will change as Blazer popularity increases. For now, I've invested in a good radio and still prefer that medium for most games.
Bill Schonley was the Trail Blazers
But now, I would listen on the radio, or internet radio, even without The Schonz if I could get it here in Indiana, but KXL blacks out their internet feed for Blazer games, making me take a good long look at NBA Pass this next year.
I think my most memorable radio moment, and I can remember for sure whether it was before or after Scholney left (I think it was before, but I'm not 100% positive), was when Mike Rice got himself ejected from the game for yelling at the refs during a timeout. I have to admit, I thought, "this will be so much better without Rice making off-the-wall comments, but to my surprise, the broadcast was missing something without him.
Dr Dave, I'm sure
-that Chicago game was in '77. We won that game WITHOUT the 3 point shot. However, we killed Chicago several times like that with some unbelievable comebacks.
The Kermit HALF COURT lob to Billy Ray was in '84 against Philly with 1 second on the clock here at the MC. Lionel Hollins was guarding Bates and looked to his left for just a moment giving Billy Ray his chance. Bates said later he had to "tip" or "tap it cause he knew it was less than 1 second." And YES, The Schonz "squealed like a pig" but then, so did I. :) Philly were the Champs and I THINK we were the only team to beat them twice that year.
There weren't that many games on tv back then but I only missed I think about 5 radio broadcasts over a twelve year period. Heck, a true Blazer fan ALWAYS turned down their tv and listened to Bill Schonely!! Those were the best of times and the two game I remember most...
by edgeguy42 on Jul 27, 2007 4:39 AM PDT reply actions
Thanks, edgeguy...
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Radio Days
I've loved sports on the radio my whole life. Picking up Yankee games on the AM band in my house in rural Pennsylvania was always a neat thrill. I prefer the verbiage and word pictures to the flashy graphics of TV. There's also a strange, hard to describe drama that comes from hearing about action without seeing it. Like the thrill of being led around blindfolded. The alienation hightens the tension.
It's Just Tradition, Dave
Now, a buddy and I split season tix, and when I don't go to games, I always listen to KXL. Wheels is awesome - the guy is really in demand around the league, I think he was a finalist in the L*kers broadcasting interviews two years back. He's rock and roll, man.
I really liked Rice, and was sad to see him go over to TV. (BTW - the NBA schedule has been released to the clubs, and will come to the public on Tuesday. On Courtside last night, the Mikes and Wheels implied that the Blazers will have a CHRISTMAS TV GAME this season. We will have to wait and see.) Tone has grown on me, but I really liked Annie Schatz, the few games she was on the radio.
It's old fashioned, it's glowing tubes and the like, it's slow and not real technocolour. It is NOT DSL. But it's the Blazers to me, and I really like it. When we are not going to a game, I want to be able to say to my kids, "Hey the game is on," and have them dash to the radio, rather than pick up the remote. The Blazers are family, and I feel the radio is an important part of that. It just feels like a good match for me.
by bothteamsplayedhard on Jul 27, 2007 7:18 AM PDT reply actions
I love the radio, but...
radio radio...
the shonz was one of the all-time greats & is sorely missed. no disrespect to wheels, but he's not shonz...like replacing a hall-of-famer.
the descriptions are better on radio as they have to paint a word picture. the tv guys generally aren't as descriptive & veer off into sometimes useless chatter.
anyone still have the championship record album? go listen to that again! i've picked up a few copies at thrift stores. i can't imagine why someone would throw it away. listening to it still gives me chills.
Brian Wheeler is a champ
As a side note, I only know of the schonz as a pimp for Standard TV and Appliance, and let me tell you I've grown to hate him and his voice-- wish it didn't have to be that way, but it is.
Currently
(Side note: The first TV guys I remember for the Blazers were Steve Jones and Pat Lafferty in the mid 80s. Who was doing TV back in the 70s?)
No one was doing TV in the 70s
70's Blazer TV
by LongtimeFan on Jul 27, 2007 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe I'm the only one...
I think if I had the choice, I would still listen to the radio, because you can pretty much still go about your business and get things done without being slave to sitting in front of the TV and wasting a good two hours of your day.
I think Wheels is a great announcer, but of course Schonley was pretty much amazing. I've only been adamantly listening for a few years, so I don't remember Rice being on the radio, and I can't imagine it was good for anything but comedic purposes, judging from what I see on TV. But Tone is pretty funny too, in a different way (read: deliberate).
Not many truly memorable moments for me... a consequence of getting really into the team right before they were the worst in the league I suppose. Here's to hoping that changes very soon!
I don't even own a TV, man!
I own a TV...
by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Jul 27, 2007 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Been there
Help.
by jon @ Blazer's Edge on Jul 27, 2007 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't Do It, jon!
by bothteamsplayedhard on Jul 27, 2007 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
As a kid
I watched the Clyde teams on C band satellite for a couple of years, when all games were on for free. Actually for a few years all programming was free.
For the past 4 years I have purchased League Pass and TIVO'd every game. Roseburg does have the radio broadcast of the games, but you can't listen while watching (live, of course) because there is a delay of about 10 seconds. During quite a few games (the bad ones when we were getting killed) I listen to music while watching.
I drive to PDX about twice a month, at night after work, and I listen to the games on Sirius satellite radio. When I get home and watch the game on TIVO, I feel like I've already seen it. That's a tribute to Wheels and Harvey, and the radio medium in general.
I worry (?) that this change away from radio is just one more way that our kids are losing out on an opportunity to develop their imagination.
I'm only a fan since the mid '90s
2. I think Wheels is very good. I can't really compare him to Schonley, because I didn't hear Bill a lot, but Wheels is descriptive and I feel like I see the game in my head, which maybe isn't the best thing when I'm driving up the Interstate). While I'm always sad that I can't watch the game on TV, I feel like I've missed a lot less with a Blazer game than, say, a Duck game. That's a testament to the announcers.
Addicted to Quack SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog
Wheels is really good
But the Schonz is a legend. Schonz had an amazingly unique voice and a fluid delivery to boot. Even his gimmicky stuff was fantastic. Loved it.
I do still listen to games on the radio because I don't have cable so that usually means about 10 games a year available without a trip to a friends, bar, or Rose Garden. The broadcasts are still compelling (when the games are tight) and I have trouble pulling myself away from them.
Ahh..the Memories...
I listen now whenever I can't watch. I like Wheeler, but am not a huge fan of Harvey, even though he has improved quite a bit since he first came on.
Ideally, I like to have the radio play-by-play on while I watch the game on TV. Over DirecTV there is a delay which confuses me (even more than usual).
During the Schoenley's final years, I remember hearing him make more mistakes, naming the wrong players, mispronouncing names, etc. I felt bad for him. When he left, it took a while for me to enjoy Wheeler's broadcasts.
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Radio without TV annoys me these days though. I get more nervous since I can't see what is happening. Baseball on the radio is a natural fit but hoops on the radio doesn't do it for me. I still listen sometimes (Wheeler does a fine job and Harvey has improved immensely from awful to solid) but I prefer the medium of TV for Blazer games.
I grew up with radio
At first I loved Wheels but during the 2005-2006 season something happened and he started turning really, really negative whenever the other team went on a run. He'd start getting this depressed tone in his voice which would make you depressed. I don't want that. I really, really like Mike Barrett. He doesn't get down, always seems upbeat, and does get excited when the team goes on a run. Because of that I'm not as big of a radio fan as before.
However, Wheels is still one of the best at describing the action as several have said and I hope he can get past his negative phase. Maybe with a winning season? :)
Since '85
Shonz has a great set of pipes and a homey delivery and I liked him, but I got the sense when I moved up here and heard nothing but raves that I had missed something, like he was on the downhill side of the career. I found it frustrating as heck listening to him describe the game because he was too slow to follow the pace of the action. I swear Buck would get a defensive rebound and all of a sudden Porter was "lickety-brindle" down the lane as if by magic. I'm real sure he was better before I got here. I was one of the few people who thought his time had come when they changed.
Wheels is great. He's at the top of his game. Also a great delivery and can talk fast enough to get the action on the court conveyed. Harvey is about as talented a broadcaster as he was an NBA basketball player, but he has good chemistry with his broadcast team. Rice is a goofy distraction at times, but it's a long season for him so I'll cut him some slack. Barrett is serviceable and offers up being a true fan trying to stay somewhat professional and neutral.
All in all I'm happy with the broadcast talent and don't see any reason for them to consider changes.
by jon @ Blazer's Edge on Jul 27, 2007 11:41 AM PDT reply actions
At last, some perspective.
But the reverence folks have for him as a play-by-play caller for radio, I adamantly believe, exists because so many Blazer fans from that era simply don't know better. They didn't hear the real masters of the form.
In his last several years, the Schonz was simply terrible, losing track of things often, unable to keep up with the pace of the game. But even in earlier years, he wasted ridiculous amounts of time on useless verbiage ("CLIMBS the golden ladder for the rebound!," etc.) and seemed congenitally unable to describe the action in a visual way. I used to pull my hair out when he'd say(over and over again) things such as "Porter to Drexler, guard to guard exchange" as if that was crucial information. If you follow the team, you know what position they play, and it only matters a little anyway. Where are they on the court?! Help me visualize the action!
Now if you ever heard Chick Hearn, you heard someone with a huge kit bag of colorful catch phrases but a much better feel for the essential action. The revelation to me was sitting out in the garage while my dad worked on the car, the radio tuned to pick up some SF station with Bill King calling the Warriors games. That guy was a play-by-play man! You never had to guess what was happening, he told you, made you see it as well as conveyed the excitement. And I'm certain East Coasters also have their legendary faves from back there.
The Schonz, by contrast, was a good relayer of in-the-moment excitement, but of little else.
Loved the Schonz
Radio days daze
I still listen to the radio very often. 33% of the time it's because I'm in the car on my way home from the office. 33% of the time it's because my wife is watching the big screen. 33% of the time it's because I can't stand the TV commentators... I'm really not a huge fan of Mike and Mike, but I really liked Steve Jones. I really don't care much for most TV commentators, in fact. It seems fewer of them are really good these days than in years past.
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jul 27, 2007 12:47 PM PDT reply actions
I listen to the games because I work nights
I've listened since the 70s because there was little TV and it was rare to score tickets to the MC. Like jon, I'm one of the few that called for Schonz to leave early because he couldn't keep up and couldn't understand the public outcry. I liked his voice though, and loved to hear those Rip City! calls.
I loved Wheels and Rice, they were the best team in the league. Especially Rice's potshots at opposing players, coaches, and fans that had me cracking up.
One thing I can't stand are the catch phrases "bingo bango bongo" "lickity-brindle up the middle" and "boom chakalaka". That stuff is totally unnecessary. But I love to hear Wheels say "he jams it!" on a Blazer fastbreak.
I mostly agree about catch phrases
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One More Thing about Wheels
I don't remember being able to read the Shonz like that!
I remember once...
When they came back they were both talking upbeat again.
Now that I think about it, this might have been a TV broadcast, I'm not certain.
by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Jul 27, 2007 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Harvey
Antonia Harvey
YOUVE GOT TO MAKE YOUR FREE THROWS
You Got to Make your Free Throws...
Bill Schonely
I could even say the same for Vin Scully (he does the Dodgers games). His delivery is flawless but it does not appeal to me. It sounds like the war/new coverage in old movies.
If I grew up listening to those guys, they would probably be beloved to me. Instead they are just broadcasters that do not know when retire, and they take away from the entertainment of the game.
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The Return of Rip City
http://idiotscollective.blogspot.com/2007/06/return-of-rip-city.html
schonley/rice
Antonio
by t jay on Jul 28, 2007 2:13 AM PDT reply actions
I "knew" Schonley
Blazer radio was not the same w/o Schonley. I am often yelling at some player "you've got to make your free throws!" in the same tone he always used. Some of those phrases will live forever.
This past season I TiVo'd the games, but wouldn't start watching for a half hour so I could fast forward through the commercials. I'd also fast forward through some dull or bad parts of the game. I like Mike Barrett a lot and I've finally come to tolerate Mike Rice. One thing I like is MB's humor regarding MR. Sort of like an indulgent Dad who smiles while rolling his eyes at something his wise-acre kid might say.
I do like listening to the games on radio now other than the inability to rewind! I can do other things at the same time and still keep up with the action. And never do I miss a play because Rice is talking about something other than the game. I'm often saying "who got the assist?" to the tv. Then I'll replay to get the information the announcers didn't give me.
My radio sports listening goes back to Seattle minor league baseball. None of the away games were live; the announcer, Leo Lassen, recreated them from play by play that came in by teletype. I watched him at the station one night and it was amazing. Imagine having to "call" a game from a piece of paper. He'd cue up crowd noises and the crack of the bat was actually him tapping a wooden pencil on the microphone.
huh
by irishda on Jul 29, 2007 12:23 AM PDT reply actions
Mike Rice's ejection
The audio coming over the video feed was the Blazer broadcasting crew. So I was watching the game and listening to an unedited live feed of the radio team. Because it was on satelite, there were no radio commercials, AND THE MIC WAS LEFT ON so you could hear Rice and Doucette's comments when there were timeouts, commercials, etc. That guy who should be arrested for impersonating a ref (Steve Javie)had really blown a call and Mike Rice was ticked off by it. During commercial, Mike Rice yelled to Javie that he blew a call. Steve Javie came over to him and made some snotty remark back. Mike Rice went into sailor mode and told Javie that he was a stupid jacka@@ along with a few other things I can't type here. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I yelled out, "Go Mike!" Then Steve ejected him from the game.
I'll never forget that. I was shocked, but it was cool to see Mike's true passion for this team. He is a great character and I hope he is around for years to come.
Here is a link to a cool article about him from 2 years ago.
http://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/story.php?story_id=28801
Brian Wheeler is a baby, Antonio Harvey has shown
Harvey was an insult to broadcasting in his first year. With a bad speech impediment and the need to say "we" was a disgrace. In listening to broadcasts at the end of last season, he was much better.
by Runtmg on Jul 29, 2007 8:11 PM PDT reply actions
Wheels
At least we don't have the Miami arena announcer. That alone makes everything else okay.
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