Trade Idea: Darius Miles for Adonal Foyle

by matthewcc on Jul 14, 2007 12:05 PM PDT Comment 12 comments

The Warriors fan post got me thinking about a way to create even more cap room for summer 2010. Check out Darius Miles contract compared to Foyle's:

Miles
2007/08: $8.2m 2008/09: $9m 2009/10: $9m

Foyle
2007/08: $8.9m 2008/09: $9.2m 2009/10: $10.6m

The biggest difference is that Foyle's last year is a team option. That is the summer the Blazers are targeting for their free agent blitz.

We were already looking at the Blazers realistically being $15-20m under the cap that year. Clearing Miles contract would put us close to $24-29m after signing Outlaw, etc...

The Blazers could add not one, but two max players if they wanted. Granted, it would send their payroll into the stratosphere once the Big 3 signed extentions in the following two years, but I'm just putting it out there.

Would it be worth shipping off, say, Webster and/or Jack to get the Warriors to swap Foyle's contract for Miles equally bad but 1-year longer contract?

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Nah.

Giving up JJ, who is a decent point guard or a 'potential' guard like Martell isn't worth it. There is a good chance he opts for medical retirement. Adonal Foyle would demand to be played and take up a roster spot, probably not even on the injured list. Think Jamaal Magloire-light.

by morescrillaigots on Jul 14, 2007 12:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

whats the point?

If we kept Darius he might retire soon because of medical reasons. At least Darius has a .1% chance of coming back on this team, if he truly is a changed man(which I doubt basketball wise). Foyle would never play behind our extensive selection of bigs.

And why would the warriors do this? Do they have interest in gaining an extra year on a contract for a player that will likely never suit up.

by myemic23 on Jul 14, 2007 12:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

3 points

the chances Miles takes medical retirement look slim to none.
the Blazers are shopping Jack and Webster. Both are likely gone in the next couple of years. Webster was originally part of the Randolph/Francis trade before Penn saw the Blazers could get the trade exception using Dickau and Jones. We're going to be parting with one or both, I'm just speculating on alternate value we could get for them (though its similar to what the Blazers got for Randolph).
The whole idea of giving them Webster and/or Jack is why the Warriors would take on one more bad year. It doesn't HAVE to be them, though. It could be protected draft picks, cash money, etc...

It also doesn't have to be Foyle. The idea is to find a contract as bad as Miles, but 1 year shorter, and giving the other team some value to swap. Again, it wouldn't have to be Jack or Webster, it could be money and/or picks and/or Jack/Webster/Pryz/whatever.

by matthewcc on Jul 14, 2007 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not sure

that there's much marginal utility gained by having 25 million in cap space as opposed to 20 million, yknow? I mean, I'd make the trade if it didn't cost much (like a second rounder) but I'm not sure if it's worthwhile to trade a valuable asset for that.

Maybe for a contract that expires a year earlier. It might be useful to have some cap space a year earlier than the 09 period, when we can expect Seattle to be a major bidding rival.

by howlingfantods on Jul 14, 2007 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

not $5m difference

That's a good point about a year earlier, but it would be the difference between $20m and $29m, not 25. Or more likely, the difference between $15m and $24m.

For $15m, we're looking at one near-max player. For $24m, we're looking at one near-max or full-max player, and a $7-9m player. So a superduper star at, say, point guard, and a All-Star small forward. Or something.

by matthewcc on Jul 14, 2007 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

nobody's trading for Darius

PERIOD

--Dave

Addicted to Quack SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by Addicted to Quack on Jul 14, 2007 12:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

It's just a bad contract swap

where you exchange duration of the bad contract for value, like Raef and Theo, who were just as "untradeable" a year ago as Miles is.

by howlingfantods on Jul 14, 2007 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess that's the big question in this proposal:

Is Adonal Foyle anywhere near Darius Miles in perceived "untradeability"?
Theo and Raef were, and still are, pretty much on par in that respect, as you point out.
I don't really have a sense for how much of an "untradeable" albatross Adonal is.

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on Jul 14, 2007 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, its bad

Foyle is being paid MORE than Miles for 2 ppg and 2 rpg. No matter how bad Miles is when he comes back, he's better than that.

by matthewcc on Jul 14, 2007 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i would

make the jack to the heat for 1 next year.the heat is definately looking for a p.g.,and mo williams just reuped with the bucks.and i would explore mr.pryzbilla for j.childress or i package both for yi.

by fatty on Jul 14, 2007 2:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I like your idea, just not the Foyle part...

I'd rather trade for Ratliff, who can stay on the inactive all year, and then come off this year (or just buy him out like Francis).

Antawn Jamison would be even better, except I wouldn't buy him out, I'd let him start at SF.

The bad part is we don't have the contracts to make it work anymore without giving up alot. For instance, a Jamison trade that would work would be for Pryz, Webster, Frye, and Jones (after Aug 28th). Since the Wizards only have 9 players under contract it does work well, but that's alot to give up for cap space at the end of the year. Or maybe not if we don't value those players much.

Also, Pryz and Jack for Maggette works too, and he only has 1 year left...

by Blazerholic on Jul 14, 2007 11:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs