SI.com reporting proposed PDX-NYC trade

by BlazersPro on Jun 28, 2007 1:48 PM PDT

Sports Illustrated is reporting on a proposed trade that would send Zach Randolph to New York for Channing Frye and Steve Francis.

According to SI:

Less than four hours before the draft, I heard that the Knicks were looking to acquire Randolph from Portland. It was uncertain what New York would be sending to the Blazers; my source believed it might be Channing Frye and Steve Francis, which would force Portland to include another player in the trade. What I can tell you is that Randolph was initially reticent about going to New York. Stay tuned.

I don't know about this trade. Anything I did with NYC would have to include David Lee, and get rid of another of our bad contracts (Darius Miles? or Raef Lafrentz) for us to do it. New York has a TON of bad contracts, and not a whole lot of talent.

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WHOA!!!

I was just about to write about this trade...

Steve Francis (huge contract but it expires in 2 years)
Channing Frye (great midrange game and another athletic post player)

FOR

Zach Randolph and who? The salaries don't match up... One player that DOES make the money match is D-MILES!!! Although I don't think we can trade him while he's injured...

Zach Randolph, Martell Webster and Dan Dickau...

One of the big problems is that if Miles isn't included then we're essentially spinning our wheels when it comes to Cap considerations. Frye and Francis have two years remaining, but Dickau has one year left, Webster has 2 years, Fred Jones only has 1 or 2 years...

Zach Randolph and Raef LaFrentz

FOR

Channing Frye, Steve Francis, David Lee and Nate Robinson?

by Champs2009 on Jun 28, 2007 1:59 PM PDT reply actions

Terrible trade for Portland.

Kevin would be Pritch-slapping himself.

by bfan on Jun 28, 2007 2:02 PM PDT reply actions

Wow

pritch-slapping reminds me of when i called my friend a wiitard when playing tennis on the new nintendo.

by Sabonis4Ever on Jun 28, 2007 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions

HUH?

Why would the Blazers of all teams want an enormously egotistical, whining, overpaid, underachieving, poor shooting bum like Francis? He's the definition of what KP says the Blazers do not want. Zach should be shopped, but I'd rather keep him than get Francis in any way. Not even if they threw in Lee, whom I love, and their 1st round pick.

by Morchella on Jun 28, 2007 2:03 PM PDT reply actions

Darius Miles

being included would be the ONLY thing that made this deal make even remote sense. And then...whew. Steve Francis would be a bitter pill to swallow. That's far more a Bob Whitsitt move than a new regime one.

--Dave

by Dave on Jun 28, 2007 2:04 PM PDT reply actions

If it was Miles...

It seems like a cap-clearing move. The Blazers have to be looking to two-three years from now and realizing they'll have to pay all of these guys. Stevie Franchise has two years left on his deal.

Now...if the Blazers pick up Frye, can we ignite the Oden-Durant debate again?

Also, would that guarantee Jack's exit from Portland tonight?

Ugh.

by HarryManback on Jun 28, 2007 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions

At the same time...

Send him home!

His contract expires in two years, and we've freed up ALL THAT MONEY for an actual contributor!

Or deal with Randolph's contract for 4 years...

Channing Frye is an interesting asset too. Aldridge, Frye and Oden would be a pretty sweet frontline...

by Champs2009 on Jun 28, 2007 2:10 PM PDT reply actions

If this goes through

that's a pretty good sign that we're in full salary dumping mode, preparing for the free agent market of 09. Frye has some value as a promising young big man, but obviously the only value Francis has is his expiring contract in 09.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 2:12 PM PDT reply actions

no way this happens

Awful. I'm not even going to waste time on why the Blazers won't do this, but are the Knicks trying to create the worst defensive front line in the NBA? Only if this gets Darius's contract out and more of those unprotected picks Isaiah likes to hand out.

by morescrillaigots on Jun 28, 2007 2:13 PM PDT reply actions

BTW Yahoo Sports's version

has it as ZBo + Martell for Francis and Frye.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 2:17 PM PDT reply actions

and DraftExpress's version

was Zbo for Frye + Malik Rose (who has to opt-in first).

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Ugh.

There are better ways to clear cap space without bringing on a player like Francis. Especially not if the prize is perennial back up like Frye.

And am I the only one that thinks that Webster is gonna have a breakout next year with Oden on the post? Just look at Ohio State's shooters last year. I'm not ready to send him off just yet.

Add David Lee, though, and things might be different.

by zoltarthecrusher on Jun 28, 2007 2:24 PM PDT reply actions

Need....

We kind of need a solid backup for both Aldridge and Oden... If we keep Pryzbilla, he can back up Oden and Frye can split some time with Aldridge...

Come on Isiah! Pull the trigger on D-Miles!

by Champs2009 on Jun 28, 2007 2:27 PM PDT reply actions

All I have to say is "NO"

Francis is toxic...and doesn't fit our "culture."

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 2:45 PM PDT reply actions

SI is MAKING me do this:

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 2:55 PM PDT reply actions

Keep in mind

that none of this has to go down tonight. In fact it can't if it's Rose.

--Dave

by Dave on Jun 28, 2007 3:24 PM PDT reply actions

More info on the proposed trade

According to ESPN:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2919929

The trade, if it goes down, wouldn't happen today (draft day); as it does not involve draft picks.
Another version of the trade is Zach to NY for Malik Rose and Frye. Rose is useless but not cancerous; and he also has two years left on his deal. This trade cannot occur until July, as Rose has a player option (which he is certain to exercise--he's getting paid $8 million or so/year to suck). I like this better than getting Stevie Franchise, even if it means having to keep Darius.
Is this the best we can get for Z-bo?

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 3:29 PM PDT reply actions

Other versions of the trade involve Webster

If that occurs, then we need something back more than just Frye and cap savings.

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions

It seems like he's worth more.

Frye declined in his second year, and getting Francis or Rose just to dump cap space seems like a waste. If dumping salary is your goal aren't there guys that aren't named Steve Francis that have one year left? A sign and trade with the Bulls for Nocioni (after July 1) or a resigned PJ Brown and whoever is drafted 9th, or Atlanta for the 11 and Childress or something (they have cap space today only) maybe even Charlotte. This is probably "leaked" by a hopeful Knicks writer or front office guy. Or I would hope so, or my esteem of KP would decline.

by morescrillaigots on Jun 28, 2007 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions

Not the best deal...

The best deal I can see us getting from NY for Zach would be Zach for Rose, Fry and David Lee. Otherwise this is just a salary dump, and I don't like it.

by usmcr3049 on Jun 28, 2007 3:37 PM PDT reply actions

Or at least the right to swap picks with the Knick

for the next two years. :)

Unprotected, of course.

If IT would do that for Curry, why not for Zach? Z-bo is every bit as good of an offensive player, he can actually rebound the ball, and doesn't need a heart surgeon on the speed-dial.

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions