Who Is Our Long Term PG?

by OregonDuckworth on Nov 18, 2007 2:24 PM PST Comment 18 comments

Simple question: who do you think will be our long term PG? Note that the question is 'who will be,' not 'who do you want in a dream scenario.' Is Blake enough? Will Jack return to the starting lineup? Is the answer in the draft? Will one of our Euro's step in? Will we pick someone up in '09? Can Roy shift over?

A lot of questions, and not a lot of easy answers. I think that PG does appear to be our most glaring weakness going forward.

Personally, I'm not absolutely sure. I don't think Blake is quite frankly talented enough in the long term, although I really like the idea of him as a backup PG. Jack has nicely eased into his role as second unit scorer, and I think this is probably his future role. Moving Roy over doesn't make much sense to me; I'm not sure if he can break the press or defend quicker guards.

As I see it, we draft a PG in this draft, most likely Rose or Collison depending on our draft spot, and then see if he, Sergio, and the Playboy can stick. If we don't see much out of them, we make a play at someone in two years.

Poll

Who do you see being our long term PG?

Roy

22 votes

Blake

4 votes

Jack

2 votes

Sergio

16 votes

Our next draft pick (Rose/Collison/Augustine etc)

20 votes

Koponnen

11 votes

A Free Agent addition

34 votes

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What no love for Green?

by Casino Royale on Nov 18, 2007 4:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Ha

I completely forgot about him. Feel free to leave a comment if he's your man

by OregonDuckworth on Nov 18, 2007 5:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm guessing

So few people vote for the Finland kid because they haven't seen him play. he's sergio's age or younger and much better and well rounded.

We applied the cortical electrodes but we're unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

by ratbastird on Nov 18, 2007 6:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Petteri Koponen Links

I couldn't find anything with him really playing over seas, but here are a few clips for you guys.

http://blazersclips.blogspot.com/search/label/Petteri%20Koponen

It's only summer league, which is why I wanted to FIND his overseas clips. I think they'd be much more reflective.

I saw the kid play live, and the Finland kid is good AND young.

This years draft, I believe, will be discovered to be as much of a steal as last years.

We have greg, we snagged Rudy, and we got the finland kid.

We applied the cortical electrodes but we're unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

by ratbastird on Nov 18, 2007 7:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Hey Ratbastard!

Could not agree more. Those 3 are coming into camp next year will bring a whole new look to this team. Oden with a seasoned LMA beside him? C'mon! Pko' will be the suprise. Rudy will simply contribute.

This will be phase 2 of 3.

Our sure to be high profile free agent pick up in 09' being the final phase before we hit our full stride.

Listen up people, it's all good, I mean every day good. BRoy & LMA continue to prove they ARE our future, what more could you want or ask as an investment for your dream team to come?

The Oden Era, Day 143

by Heymoe on Nov 18, 2007 7:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Peteri is very overrated

I've argued this so many times, i'll just let the future prove my point. he will never start for any NBA, ever. next year he'll be lucky to average more than 3 minutes a game. i saw him in person in summer league and was not at all impressed. he was out of control and looked totally in over his head. in addition to that impression from watching him on the court, his summer league stats back that up - horrendous.

by sergioFTW on Nov 18, 2007 9:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Interesting

were you there the first week or the last week?

I was there the last week and he looked good. I liked his flow, his shots, the combo of vision and willingness to create for himself.

Sergio wowed me with a flawless cross over dribble in the preseason. I liked him before he was even drafted and was thrilled to have him.

I honestly think the finland kid will be better for us. He's balanced in his play where sergio is pure offense. We don't have the defense to make up for his lack, yet.

Honestly, I think I'm one of the few people who "overrates" the finland kid. I don't really see that many people agreeing with me on this one.

I think sergio will be awesome, but not for our team. Unfortunately I don't think he does or will fit, and that's too bad. Nate will never be patient enough to play him and so he'll never learn. He really just needs to go to the suns and flourish there. I think he'd do well.

I believe the finland kid fits our current style of play and he has the ability to defend and create his shot a little better.

yeah, he's young. 19 even. I've seen him play, and I liked what I say. He moves well, sees well, and shoots well.

We applied the cortical electrodes but we're unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

by ratbastird on Nov 18, 2007 10:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i was there

for the last two games.

by sergioFTW on Nov 19, 2007 7:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

sergioFTW

how many total minutes did Petteri Kopponen play in Summer League?

Answer: Not many.

Certainly not enough to form the strong opinion that you have of this kid's potential.

I understand you love Sergio and will happily trash other players unfairly to make your case for him, but in this instance I think your assessment is over-the-top and unfounded.

If you are so sure he will never start in the NBA, then you might wish to write KP a letter and explain to him how stupid he was for trading up to get this kid.

You might also want to courtesy copy all of the overseas scouts employed by The Trailblazers as well.

They would all love some of your insight into how they overrated this young PG prospect.

"Life is a meaningless sequence of events in between Blazer championships"

by broggerboy19 on Nov 20, 2007 10:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I dunno

about our starter but we have definitely found a 6th man in Jarrett "Big Money" Jack.

Formerly known as Junit3123

by Jason3123 on Nov 18, 2007 10:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I couldn't agree more

This has really been one of if not the most encouraging developments this season. While Jack was an inbetween starter, he could be excellent in the future as our first guy off the bench.

If you view team development as defining seven or eight roles, and then finding the players to fill those roles out, Jack has established himself perfectly. I liken it to a starting pitcher falling out of the rotation, only to become a dominant closer.

by OregonDuckworth on Nov 18, 2007 11:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Jacks game is not involving, and we're fit to run

I really envision Koponen being the more calm, focused, cerebral PG who defers the ball more, is a better shooter/defender and starts, but can still run with Sergio being the energy killer off the bench who still plays 20-25 minutes and forms a mean unit with Rudy that just burns teams that are sleeping. I think this could be a solid rotation if people progress well (optimistic I know) in two years. Lots of great passers.

Koponen/Sergio
Roy/Fernandez
Webster/(Roy-Mcroberts)
Aldridge/Mcroberts
Oden/Pryzbilla

that teams looks really balanced and fun, with a great 9 man rotation. I don't include Jack, Outlaw, Miles, Frye, Blake, Miles, Lafrentz, or Green because I just don't see them being big contributors with the rest of this team and the way it fits. Martell can kill from outside with Oden to draw defensive attention and more heady PG play, whereas Rudy just fits better than Jack in our system, not needing to create on his own but making PG's jobs easier with constant movement, and his chemistry with Sergio. And Outlaw is purely an isolation player, no idea of how to play within an offense. I'm really hoping Mcroberts surprises with his tenacity and passing skills. If he can rebound solidly, pass as well as we hear, and add a mid-range jumper, he will fit perfectly for us in the second unit. Outlet passers, and an electric backcourt!

what do you think we could get for Jack, Frye, Outlaw, and our pick? (maybe not all at the same time). One need I see is a solid stopgap PG who can help us get established in a faster offense while playing solid D, but won't get in the way of our future. The one guy I see who fits perfectly is Miller, and it's feasible we could get him w/o screwing up our cap space...I'd love it.

My Favorite Non-Blazers: Dwight Howard, Andre Iguodala, Allen Iverson, Andrei Kirilenko, Gilbert Arenas, Elton Brand, Jermaine O'neal, Chris Bosh

by darkhelmit54 on Nov 19, 2007 12:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

T. Green

I know I'm on the Green bandwagon. There's still plenty of room available!

by rockingharder on Nov 19, 2007 1:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Hey

When is Sebastian Telfair a free agent?

Fatty, Big Daddy on the BE, Man o' international renown, Postin' from his own thrown, Tellin' us what we couldn't see

by tominhawaii on Nov 19, 2007 12:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Very nice!

He should be really good when he gets older, right?

by einman77 on Nov 20, 2007 12:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I used to think that.

How many chances is he going to get?

The sublime moment: Ball touches nothing but net. Greg squeals in delight! -- Elaine from HoopFest Haiku, 2001

by tominhawaii on Nov 20, 2007 9:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Of the guys we have...

... only Blake and Jack have shown they can start. My own opinion, swayed by some of the evaluations made here at BE, is evolving to think that Jack still has some significant holes as a PG to fill, but looks good as a third guard.

Blake also has room for further development. He doesn't have as much to do to be at least league average. That's probably good enough.

The rest of the guys - all unproven. Right now Sergio is the only one I'd give even a ghost of a chance at becoming a full time starting NBA PG.

by timg56 on Nov 19, 2007 1:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs