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Topic of the Day: Would you do it?

So here's the question of the hour around these parts.

The Bulls are likely to covet Kevin Garnett and Pau Gasol, both of whom might be available and might not.  But lets say that they can't get either one of those and they do want to make a push for a serious title run in the weakened East this year.  Plus they realize that they're going to lose the bargaining chip of P.J. Brown's expiring contract at the end of the year.  So they call up the Blazers and offer this package:

P.J. Brown 6'11" 239lb PF 5.0 pts, 4.5 rebs per game, 37 years old, $8 million contract, expires after this season.

Andres Nocioni  6'7" 225lb SF 15.4 pts, 6 rebs per game, 27 years old,  $3 million contract, expires after this season.

PLUS their first round pick with the rights to exchange with the New York Knicks this season.  New York currently ranks 20th out of 30 teams in the league.  Portland ranks 21st.

for

Zach Randolph  6'9" 258lb PF 23.8 pts, 10.3 rebs per game, 25 years old, 5 year contract at an average of $14.7 million per year.

This trade does work under cap rules.

Right here, right now, would you do it?  Comment below and state your reasoning.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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hhhmmm
Well i think Nocioni has 5 good years left untill his number start to drop, and NY still has a good shot at imploding and having a good shot at the first pick. So right now I really wouldnt mind it, then again its late and i am real tired. Perhaps i will feel differently in the morning. But I say go for it. Sorry Z-bo.
Bucky

by Bucky Blazer on Jan 28, 2007 11:34 PM PST reply actions  

hmm
I'm gonna say...

yes actually..

and because

although I like zbo more and more every week, I don't think this team can contend, but a more up tempo offense that could consist of

sergio, jack
roy, ime
nocioni, webster
aldridge, outlaw
przybilla

is pretty solid, not to mention we'd have 2 first round picks now, to draft a solid center perhaps, noah?

we'd have serious cap relief to

by junit3123 @ Blazer's Edge on Jan 28, 2007 11:42 PM PST reply actions  

probably not
The only reason for doing this trade would be to drop our overall team salary.  Since we are already going to do that after this season w/ Derek Anderson's (and possibly J.Mag's) contract coming off the books, I don't see the real purpose here.  Also, the team has already made several statements saying (to one degree or another) that the team isn't interested in getting more draft picks because we already have enough young guys already.  I don't think a trade w/ the Bulls could happen unless Deng or Gordon's name is involved, and even then it's a stretch.

by Blindsteepler on Jan 28, 2007 11:45 PM PST reply actions  

good question!
   If it was Deng instead of Nocioni, I say pull the trigger on it.  
   Otherwise I say thanks but no thanks.  My reason is that Aldridge isn't ready yet to be a starter and cleary Mags and Brown ain't the answer either.  We would be giving up too much for a hustle guy and a 37 year old jump shooter. And I think we know that the draft is a double edged sword, no guarantee that New York plummets and no guarantee that we get a rotation guy even in a deep draft.  
   As for this being a good move for cap relief, better to stand pat and let Mags contract expire than to move our best player in a less than optimal deal.

by JPop on Jan 28, 2007 11:53 PM PST reply actions  

well
As much as Zach has done for us this year, I would agree with trading him, for the following reasons:

  1.  Development.  Aldridge would get more oppurtinities to develop his game, and Joel would have be used more for post offense in the game at some point, giving him floor time and a stronger offensive dimension.

  2.  Style.  While half-court execution is vital, we do seem to have a team capable of running, as has been noted.  Running may not necessarily become the automatic style, but there are less obstacles to the option.

  3.  Cap.  With the exception of Miles (who is a cap-eater under $10 mil a year, which seems like an accomplishment in this league nowadays) there are no long term expensive commitments, which makes Portland a better free agent player and more flexible in paying out later (i.e. when Roy's rookie contract expires).

  4.  Roster.  Extra picks, esp. first rounders from lower echelon teams, never hurt.  We will have 2 first round picks, 2 expiring contracts, and a moveable piece in Nocioni and a safety valve in Nocioni if something changes with Outlaw or Webster.  This opens up a myriad of trade opportunities in and of itself, not that we need to make them, but the creative room is always nice to have.

  5.  Draft.  It is a deep draft.  It is the kind of draft where unloading a piece that doesn't fit in long term, but also may cost you enough wins to get more ping pong balls is win-win.  That may not sound pretty, but it's the truth.

  6.  Zach.  He'll go to a place where he has a chance to win, and a chance to contribute a lot of what the bulls need, without having to be the appointed leader.  His stats should rise against the Eastern big men.  No Duncan, Yao, Gasol, Nowitzki, Stoudemire, etc.  on a regular basis.  
      The man may have polarized the base to some extent, but he's carried us a fair amount this year, and he came back from microfracture surgery.  That requires hard work and dedication, and he deserves a lot of respect for that.

7. Defense.  Zach isn't the greatest, to put it one way, and I can't remember the last time a team had championship succes when the philosophy/character of the coach was the opposite of the centerpiece's (see Detroit with Saunders for example of clash, Phil Jackson and anybody for an example of when they are aligned.)

In conclusion, if the team does not find itself right away after Zach, there will be plenty of freedom and options to make things run smoothly, as opposed to having a large salary and limited mobility.  

Of course if we kept, him I think we would be fine and the possibilities opened by this trade are less sure than betting on Zach's development.  I also have a bad feeling about Zach working with Skiles.

My barometer/adventurous side says do it, though.

by supremepuntiff on Jan 29, 2007 1:15 AM PST reply actions  

totally agreed with supremepuntiff
In fact you've said everything I wanted to say but I'd like to emphasize your point #5.

I am absolutely opposed to the idea of tanking intentionally in order to get a better draft pick, as it will hurt our franchise's reputation and destroy our young players' development and confidence.

By trading Zach we would enter the tank mode automatically, in the mean time, however, we also send out the message to our young players "YOU ARE THE FUTURE" and given the reasons that we could trade Zach (as pointed out by supremepuntiff above), nobody would really think we are doing this to tank. We would get the upside of the tanking (i.e. draft picks) while avoiding nearly all the downsides (except for the bad record and maybe attendence in the short term)

In the end we would have a clearer picture about our team - style of play, players to build around and hence a better environment for their growth AND two very high picks in a very deep draft, PLUS the huge cap space (don't forget Derek Anderson's contract is expiring as well - that'd give us 4 expiring contracts with $29 millions!)

Sorry Zach. I know you want to stay here and you justified that with your fantastic performance this year. But if that trade comes up, I'd still pull the trigger instantly because that would certainly do us more good in the long run.

by iverigma2 on Jan 29, 2007 1:57 AM PST reply actions  

the pick is not guaranteed to be a lottery pick
   How excited would people be about this deal if New York makes the playoffs? Brown, Nocioni and....a late first round pick?
   Not only that but the Bobcats have been dumping salary and getting lottery picks since their inception and look where its gotten them.    

by JPop on Jan 29, 2007 2:25 AM PST reply actions  

i say yes
simply because z bo has proven to us that he can not a lead team into the playoffs. today its the superstars with passing ability that are making their teams better and zach simply doesn't have the playmaking ability of a steve nash, lebron james or dwayne wade. but i would like to know what you think dave

by dougall5505 on Jan 29, 2007 5:24 AM PST reply actions  

For all the reasons mentioned above
I think Zach should be on the market, and the Blazers should take this deal.

His personal life will not be scrutinized so much in Chicago, and it is close to home for him.  He is more likely to behave better there.

I like the list of reasons provided by Supremepuntiff.  Flexibility for the future and cap space will become necessary about the time Zach's share of the pie really gets big.  Zach's contract will limit the ability of the Blazers to keep the core of young players together.

In the last few weeks there has been several mentions of how the young players are progressing ahead of expectations and starting to get crunchtime minutes.  Perhaps there wouldn't be much of a dropoff in the last half of the season if they continue to progress, especially if Nocioni can play at a pace that blends with other players on the team.

I like the idea  of Kevin Pritchard having lots of draft picks to use!  If it were still Nash, that could more easily be seen as a problem.

by bbfred on Jan 29, 2007 5:55 AM PST reply actions  

Yes, of course.
But the Bulls arent going for it.
We wish. Nocioni is a tough, tough player with a great stroke, who is young to boot. If we had that expiring contract along with jamals and NY first pick we would be sitting pretty. I can tell you now that Zach is not a Scott Skiles player. Chicago hangs their hat on Defense.
uh..............zach?

by DropstepJ on Jan 29, 2007 7:20 AM PST reply actions  

2 changes
with that package, toss in Thabo Sefalosha and a future 1st rounder and now you're speaking my language.

or

exchange nocioni for Deng and toss in that draft pick.

by mcmillion on Jan 29, 2007 7:36 AM PST reply actions  

Oh Yeah
I make this trade so fast, it'd make yoour head spin.

by blazerprophet on Jan 29, 2007 7:39 AM PST reply actions  

Absolutely
The depth of the draft makes this a no-brainer. If nothing else, the Blazers would be one of a few teams with multiple first round picks in a stellar draft. We could draft two excellent players to fill needs, or we could trade up for a potential star ...

I do disagree with some of the sentiments mentioned here that we would only have Miles' contract left to get rid of. I've said it again and again--LaFrentz is the worst contract on this team. Two years left after this season at 12 mil/per, and unlike Miles, we KNOW he's not going to get any better. If we had Chicago's draft pick, I wonder if that gives us an opportunity to move LaFrentz's contract. We could trade LaFrentz and the pick for a veteran instead of having another team full of rookies. Personally I would rather use the pick, but it's a thought ...

by bfan on Jan 29, 2007 7:39 AM PST reply actions  

I think i would
I would have to see Andres play a little before making the call, but I think it gives us an outside shooter with some veteran experience and another shot at Oden or as many have said, 2 quality players in a deep draft.  I like what Zach has done and I think he can fit into this teams long range goals but...

if Andres is the type of player that can fit into an offense and score consistently and at least hold his own on defense, I say yes.

by tssbro on Jan 29, 2007 7:53 AM PST reply actions  

Right here...right now..?
No. Maintain continuity through the end of the season. Make your major moves then. Mags will soon be gone,which will be a minor ripple. A blockbuster trade as proposed would be a tsunami. It takes a lot of space and time to turn a huge ship (Blazer's franchise). A move like this would be,in effect,conceding the rest of the season. The team,as it is,is slowly transitioning into a more up-tempo pace. When the season ends,we'll have better sense of our needs for the future.

Great players alone do not bring instant success, as we've seen from the Whitsett era. It's more about chemistry and team goals. If a major trade happens, work these things out in the training camp and preseason. This season is still very redeemable as far as learning how to win and gaining respectability again (if only in the player's minds).

It would not break my heart to see Zach go. Let's just not be too hasty. I have a lot of confidence in Pritchard to find the pieces we need for success. There are better options down the road.

"...though you may fail...aim at something high." Henry David Thoreau

by Dr Dave on Jan 29, 2007 8:08 AM PST reply actions  

I don't think so...
This team is just too young and more draft picks are just going to keep it getting younger.

If we are to trade Zach (and I'm not totally against it) I want some veteran leadership.

See, all these young guys coming in are fun and are undoubtedly the future but at some point the rebuilding has to stop and the growing has to begin in earnest.  I think we are approaching that time.

Some of us are old enough that we always eat our desert first, just in case.  I want that championship in my lifetime and it won't happen if the team is forever getting younger.

by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Jan 29, 2007 8:31 AM PST reply actions  

I'd do it for Deng.

I'd also keep my eyes out on that NY pick.  Right now, the Knicks are a half game out of first place in the Atlantic, and at 21-23 are flirting with a winning record.

If Nocioni is the prize, though, my concerns:

  • Would he stick around after this season, and how much would it cost us?  PJ Brown is little more than an expiring contract.  Nocioni, as a young player who can guard people, is something the Blazers need--but if he doesn't want to stay here, that could be an issue.  Also, it's a bit risky to trade for someone (that you might want to re-sign) in their contract year for another reason--it's hard to evaluate them.  (See Miles, Darius for what can go wrong; Nocioni fortunately has a better head on his shoulder than Darius does).

  • Our D would improve, but where would scoring and rebounding come from?  Nocioni is decent but not great on the boards; he's not a major offensive threat.  And who starts?  Noci and LA?  Noci and Ime?  Ime and LA?

I suspect that Portland could squeeze a little more out of Chicago in this situation.  

by EngineerScotty on Jan 29, 2007 8:58 AM PST reply actions  

for all you people saying no
you're all nuts this is the type of draft you build a powerhouse team with no wonder why why nationally you people get no love you keep a guy for what so you can win 35 games next year hello !!!!! the nba is a now league get the knicks pick and nocioni@pj's expiring contract hell yes in a heartbeat then trade magloire*dixon for another pick and then trade raef and dickau for oberto*#1 gee i'll be like a kid in a candy store if i'm kevin pricthard do it !!!!

by fatty on Jan 29, 2007 9:25 AM PST reply actions  

Send him packing
I would make that trade.  In fact, I'd make the trade for a worse player than Nocioni- say Mike Sweetney, who has a similar contract, I believe.  While Zack brings scoring, I think his style of play hinders others.  When he has the ball, others just stand around; they get the message it's Ok to play halfhearted defense; fast breaks don't materialize, when the PF trails all others, etc.  The Blazers would get likely get two lottery ping pong balls, and even if Knicks make the playoffs, they'd have the 15th pick or 16th pick.  The Blazers need an all around SF, and a good big man, C or PF, hopefully who can score inside. The draft should provide at least one of those. I don't think Nocioni is either of those, and so shouldn't be kept after this season, so  who cares if he's in the trade (also I hate to root for floppers.)  Getting the Blazers salary number down will never attract free agaents, but will allow management to keep our good young players when their contracts expire.  After the trade, Miles is the only bad character and he and Lafrentz the only bad cointracts.

by moved away on Jan 29, 2007 9:33 AM PST reply actions  

not quite
while i agree theoretically with shipping z-bo out of town. i don't think this is a good enough deal. regardless of z-bo inabilities, he's also a 25 and 10 guy, and his trade value has to be higher than just cap relief. the draft pick is not enough. as the organization has said, we don't really need more young players, we need some veteran leadership.
i'd love to see z-bo moved before the deadline, but not just for the sake of it, we need to improve the team as well. i'd rather send z-bo with our 1st round pick to the grizz for pau gasol.

by Bretski on Jan 29, 2007 10:06 AM PST reply actions  

I'd go for it
Though if I were management I'd try to see if Chicago would swap Deng, but don't expect that to happen.  Regardless I'd go for it.  I think that Zach's play doesn't jive very well with most of our talent.  I want players on the court who actually impove other the games of teammates, this is what it takes to be a contender, and I don't think Zach is one of these players.  If we want to be a playoff team in a couple of years and a contender a couple of years after that we need to make our Zach move while we can, incase we can't get as attractive a deal in the future.  

Let's face it, he's had a great season, but do you feel his play over the last month to month and a half has increased or lowered his trade value?  I think it has lowered his trade value, his stats have gone down across the board during that time, and even when he puts up numbers like he did on Saturday night he is doing it with an unbeliveable number of shot attempts w/ a low shooting percentage (granted some of these attempts are putbacks that are part of the same sequence, so consequentally the shot attempts lie some).  If his trade value is at his highest this season we should deal by draft day at latest, and if he doesn't pick up his performance to that of the first couple of months of the season we may get more for him prior to the trade deadline than at draft time.  I fear that if he is on the team next season we will continue down the same road as we've struggled to free ourselves from next year... not enough minutes for the future of the team, not the style of play that we want to be involved in, but forced into it due to the genuine talent that Zach does have.  If he's on the team he's too good to not play, but if he's hurting most of our players enough we'd be better off without him, deal him while his value is high!

by drawingjeremy on Jan 29, 2007 10:16 AM PST reply actions  

No way
I don't like what we get in return.  It's not enough.  I'd give zach another year if we can't get someone of equal value before i look to get rid of him.  We're weak at Center and we'd then be weak at PF AND center and the SF wasn't a tremendous weak spot.  Not like center is.  Moving him, i want a good PF/C.

Gasol or KG

by ratbastird on Jan 29, 2007 11:35 AM PST reply actions  

no
zach is our workhorse.

only way i'm trading him is for a big name

by luckyride on Jan 29, 2007 11:49 AM PST reply actions  

On Youth
It was something of an aside in the article, but Brian Hendrickson's article today has the following from Steve Patterson:

Blazers president Steve Patterson says he isn't interested if it means acquiring a lengthy, expensive contract of a player nearing the end of his career, which would conflict with the team's rebuilding strategy.

"We don't need to make our cap situation any tougher," said Patterson, whose team has approximately $57.2 million in salary committed for next season and three free agents -- Travis Outlaw, Ime Udoka and Magloire -- to consider re-signing. "More flexibility and youth is probably the focus."

I don't think the Blazers would really mind getting younger.  Nate has said he'd like more veterans because they'd help him win now, which is always the focus of coaches (since it's the standard by which they're judged).  But as a whole I get the impression that the Blazers are fine with building even more through this draft and wouldn't mind losing some veteran role-players, or even their star, to make that happen (and to achieve the cap flexibility that would come with it).

--Dave

by Dave on Jan 29, 2007 11:52 AM PST reply actions  

New rule:
If you don't have to shave yet, we don't want you on the team.

If you have to have velcro on your shoes because you haven't got the hang of those string thingies, we don't want you on the team.

If you even consider calling Zach, "The old guy", we don't want you on the team.

If you can go to Nate and say, "Hey, coach, I didn't know you used to play..."  We don't want you on the team.

I don't mind trading Zach, but we need some veteran leadership.

by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Jan 29, 2007 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

If we trade Zach ...
... who's going to score? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for trading the big fella for another pick, but it will surely mean more losses the following season and a trip back to the lottery. I wonder how much more youth Nate can take ...

by bfan on Jan 29, 2007 12:09 PM PST reply actions  

I believe
right now we're on a two-years-down-the-road plan, and we always have been even with the personnel we have now.  Next year is probably a lottery year even if we keep the same guys.  I think trading Zach would disrupt that some.  I also think that many folks, including some in management, believe that Zach isn't a part of the picture for us two-plus years down the road anyway.  So it's kind of a murky thing, I guess.

--Dave

by Dave on Jan 29, 2007 12:31 PM PST reply actions  

The important thing

is that this year's two-year-plan, becomes next year's one-year-plan.

Always being two years out sucks.

by EngineerScotty on Jan 29, 2007 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

THAT..
Is what I'm talking about.  You keep bringing in younger and younger guys and you never get any closer to your goal.

by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Jan 29, 2007 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahhhhh...
but it doesn't necessarily follow that keeping the same guys will get you to your goal either.  In fact if it's not the right mix (or the other things like cap space or whatever becomes important aren't right) then NOT making a move may actually keep you farther from your goal.

It's a little like saying, "This girlfriend isn't right for me, but if I let her go and date somebody else I'll have to start from scratch and who knows how it will go, so I'll just keep this one."  Doesn't work.

I'm not saying that this is the case with Zach or anybody on our team.  I'm just saying that saying, "We can't keep getting younger or we'll never get there" can't be the only barometer, any more than, "We have to make a change now just for the sake of change" can be.  

Younger or older, if you think the move's right then pull the trigger.  If it's not, don't.  That's pretty much what I expect of management.  I can wait a couple years for the right move to pan out.  I'd far rather do that than go along hoping my current situation was right and then finding out two years later that it wasn't.

I do wonder sometimes how the tug-of-war at Blazer Central goes on this.  If I had to guess I'd say that Nate would be opposed to trading any veteran pieces on speculation or youth.  I'd say Pritchard would be more willing to, as the draft is his domain right now and he'd love more tools to work with.  Patterson seems to use that "flexibility" thing a fair amount.  Maybe he's a cap guy?  I don't know.  I could be wrong about all of that.  But it would be interesting to hear their conversations.

--Dave

by Dave on Jan 29, 2007 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's where we agree...
"In fact if it's not the right mix..."

Of course we are looking for the right mix.  And I have never advocated simply staying with what we have.  If anything, I'm one of the least of Zach's supporters, er, or something.

There are simply too many problems with continuously going after the newest models.

  1. You are always chasing potential.  Most potential, at least in my experience, is never reached.

  2. A championship team, to my way of thinking, needs a mix (there's that word again) of young and old.  The old actually needs to have the smarts and/or the ability.  Our olds really don't shine in either category.

  3. For every young guy you bring in, someone has to go.  In most cases, it's the young guy from last year or the year before.  This is not exactly progress.  (Well, it can be, but this is my story.)

  4. At some point this team, any team, has to say it's time to move forward.  I think we are very near that point.  

  5. We need some vets.  We need some verifiable, intelligent vets.  I think I am on the same process that Nate is on, here.

  6. I am rambling.

  7. Old people do that.

  8. ""We can't keep getting younger or we'll never get there" can't be the only barometer, ..."  No, but it is undeniably true, and it IS one of the barometers that we have to adhere to.

by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Jan 29, 2007 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Incidentally...
I told my wife when she turns 50, I'm trading her in on two 25s.  But this only works for wives, not basketball players.

Well, OK, actually it might work quite well for basketball players but this is getting away from the point.  I don't remember quite what the point was but I'm quite certain it was nowhere near here.

by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Jan 29, 2007 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, okay. I'd do it. For 3 reasons:
1) No, I don't think "I want some other trade" is a viable answer on this sorta hypothetical stuff.
Just kinda feel like these questions should be on a pure yes/no basis.
Not a "rule", but it just seems like that's the deal.

2) Love the no-long-term-contracts aspect.
If we waive Darius now, where does that put us in committed payroll for next season?
Something like, what, $15 mil under the cap or so?
That's before signing draft picks and re-signing existing free agents (certainly Ime, maybe Nocioni or Trout), but still.
We could actually be a player in the free agent market.

3) I feel like if you don't trade Zach before training camp next year, you've gotta keep him for his contract's duration.
You can't pass up the current opportunity and hit something as good or better later.
And given his contract numbers and past off-court behavior, I just can't commit to that.

My name is Quality Pie, but everyone calls me Vickie. Please follow me.

by QualityPie on Jan 29, 2007 12:47 PM PST reply actions  

One thing to remember about NBA contracts

They are structured with raises every year.  (Zach's PAYMENT arrangements are unique, but the cap value of the contract goes up at a fixed rate).

If we do this trade now, Chicago pays for the expensive years of the contract (though the teams may work out a cash settlement as part of the trade).  Players get harder to trade the later into their contract they get.

by EngineerScotty on Jan 29, 2007 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Excellent points, All!
It comes down to a two basic questions.

Fisrt: Is Zach (or can he be) a player in Portland's 2-year future? My answer is no. That's not to bash Zach. He's had an outstanding year and he's demonstrated a growing leadership ability. He's a player, and he'll make some team with the right system very happy, but that team won't be the Blazers.

Second: Will this deal move the organization the direction it needs to go? Yes. The Blazer organization has used the "broken economic model" enough, and cut cost and personnel enough for them to jump at this deal. In one relatively minor trade, we could clear a significant amount of cap space over the next two years, and in the process we'd get another lottery pick.

To Nate I'd say, "sorry bud." He'll have another year to develop young players, but this should be the last year we try to build from the draft. After this, we should have the future players in place to begin growing team chemistry in ernest. As long as the core group stays in tact a couple years, we should see a steady increase in the win column. After that, we'll see if the roster should be tweeked to take the next step. I'm betting we'll be able to win with the players KP gets us in the draft, but at least we'd have the "flexability" to get that one coveted free-agent to put us over the top.

How many cliches did I just use? It seemed like I just cut and pasted them together.

by Steve The Hedge on Jan 29, 2007 4:18 PM PST reply actions  

I'd try harder for Deng
I don't think Chicago would swap Deng for Nocioni in that deal, but I think there'd be a good chance if we added either Martell or Travis to the mix (maybe not ask for the Knicks pick if we're only giving up Travis).  I think we'd have to take an extra player in return to make salaries match (Khryapa anyone?).

Sure, no one likes to give up our own young talent, but it will probably come to that at some point.  

Anyway, I'd do that deal and be pretty happy about it.  

JJ/Sergio/Dan
Roy/Dixon (Martell if he stays)
Deng/Ime (Outlaw or Martell)
Aldridge/Brown
Pryz/Mags/Raef

We might win a few less games this year, but long term, I think it'd be a much brighter future for the team.  Especially if the Knicks pick was included and we got another big in the draft.

by ljm on Jan 30, 2007 11:57 AM PST reply actions  

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