Blazer-Related Memories
First of all, thank you from the bottom of my heart for your support and for taking the time to offer condolences. It means a lot. You guys are the best.
As those who read the old site know, from time to time I like to talk about Blazer memories...stuff we've experienced as fans. For those who missed earlier installments, you can find them here and here. I have a couple other stories today, simple ones...appropriately about a couple of moms. Unlike the other stories they're not special because they're unusual or overwhelming, but precisely because they are so normal, or at least were so normal, which is part of the point of sharing them.
The first memory is of my own mother. My dad's family came from southern Oregon, a little bit south of the Grants Pass area. We'd often make trips down to visit them. I remember one trip in the early spring of '78 my mom and I were sitting on a bed in their spare room, listening to the Blazer game. That was how you did it in the "old days". The team wasn't on TV at the time and who could afford tickets, even if you had a connection to buy them in the perpetually sold-out Coliseum? But the Schonz painted a picture as well as anybody could, and we were sitting there, side by side, hanging on every word. Your breath would catch every time a shot went up. You'd talk during the timeouts about who would win, who would score most, and all those things. And mind you, my mom didn't like sports at all. But she still followed the Blazers. It seems like a boring, simple story, but this was really one of the few genuine points of connection between the generations in my family...one of the few times that both parties (and all parties really) could sit in a room together, focused on the same thing, enjoying it equally, and talking about it together.
There was another game the day we headed back from that trip. As a little kid a five-hour car ride seems interminable, but my mom and dad talked together and specifically decided to delay our departure until just before the game so we could all listen on the way home. Between the pre-game, the two hour contest, and the post-game wrap up half of the trip was gone in a flash. I still remember what the glowing light of that old Plymouth's radio looked like in the darkness going down the road in the rain. I also remember losing the signal on the receding radio stations and scrambling to pick it up on the new ones. I'm sure part of my parents' master plan was simply to pacify the children in the back seat, but that doesn't matter. In those days the Blazers were important enough to build our schedule around! They were a big part of my growing up, and something my parents celebrated with me.
The second memory is not of my own mother, but of a friend's. I hate to confess it, but in my high school years I was not Mr. Popular, and probably deservedly so. I wasn't mean or consciously anti-social, just mostly clueless tending towards dorky--which, if you remember high school much, usually doesn't play well. (Side note: Doesn't it often seem, though, that the kids who had everything in high school make the most annoying adults, while the folks who had to struggle a lot usually turn out not only decent, but wonderful? Reassure your children and friends, folks. 23-40 is a couple decades of pretty much constant make-up for all of those awful things you had to endure when you were 16. And if any of you out there are teenagers who find yourselves a little bit south of the top of the social heap, trust me...don't sweat it, good times will come . You can have a LOT more fun being even semi-cool at 28 than you can being an ultra-popular high school student.) Anyway, the upshot of this is that I had few friends, but the ones I had were really tight. And one guy was my best friend in particular...the kind that every kid should have. We hung out together ALL the time. His mom never cared how much he had me over. This was in the days of Blazer cable, and she'd let us order the games. She had a Midwest background, so she'd always make enough dinner for sixteen people even though it was just me, my friend, and his brother and sister at the house. I probably never thought about it much then, but looking back I realize how amazing it was for a single mom on one income to do all that for her kids and their stray friend. And, you know, she didn't really care that much about the games herself. I don't ever recall her watching with us. She just made sure we could watch and fed us until we were full. Now that was some mom.
And see, this is part of the reason why the things that have happened in recent years sadden and worry me. I'm not sure the Blazers are a family endeavor anymore, let alone the intergenerational glue they used to be. You can say what you want about the modern athlete's culture, being rich, and everybody doing everything anywhere they want, and I don't disagree. But at the same time, a mom and her child should be able to follow the Blazers without her also having to explain what "simulated sex" means. (Whatever you think of it--good, bad, or indifferent--why should it muddy the waters of basketball or jump to mind every time you think "Blazers"?) A kid should be able to learn math and the rudiments of comparative statistical analysis by looking at the box scores without also having to read about a star player's latest tantrum in the column above. A father should be able to take his kids to the game without having to clarify why a player is scowling and yelling when the coach pulls him out of the game and what those words mean and how we're not supposed to use them. I feel relatively comfortable saying that had the climate surrounding the team today existed when I was a kid, neither of the above stories would have happened. And I can't help but think...was it really necessary for all of those other things to become intertwined with the definition of our team? Did the good/pleasure that the people who perpetuated them got outweigh the potential loss of even one memory like this for a kid and their parents somewhere? Things don't have to be illegal, or even suspension-worthy, to be damaging.
My intention here is not to rehash bad stuff, but to remember the good. I am blessed with really, really good memories of the Blazers when I was a kid. And I don't think it's wrong to say that although I still love and support the team to this day, I do hope that things are much different for the next generation of players and fans than they are for the current ones. It seems to me that would be best for the kids that play for our team and the even younger kids who watch them. I don't know if the organization can provide a championship team for any eventual children of mine to fall instantly in love with, but I really hope they at least field a team that you could feel comfortable sharing with a five-year old without reservation. I think that's important to the health of the organization, the community, and maybe even to a family or two out there...a family like mine was, and may be again when it's my turn to be the parent.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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Good to have you back
I, too, have wonderful memories of growing up with the Blazers. I can't ever remember my mom caring a hoot about any other sport except Blazer basketball. As a kid, it never occurred to me how unusual it was to see my mom not only watching the game, but actually yelling at the TV during crucial moments in the 4th quarter. I can still picture her raising her fist and yelling "RIP CITY!!" whenever we scored a basket in a tight game. As as adult looking back on the whole thing, these memories take on a very surreal quality because if I hadn't actually witnessed them, I would never have believed my mom would have gotten that into it. Great stuff!
Perhaps this will sound like a guy in his mid 30's taking the first steps toward curmudgeon-hood, but I really think what has changed since the 70's is the general level of maturity of the players. I think this is a direct result of the dramatic upswing of HS and 1st or 2nd year college athletes entering the league. Too many kids hitting the jackpot too early before they've really matured enough to handle the pressure and responsibility. A lot of personal growth takes place between 18-22. This was the main reason I have always supported the idea the age limit for the NBA (selfish on my part, but I think it does make for a more enjoyable overall product).
The old Blazers were rich punks too
Kersey, Cliff, Drexler... they may have bought into the team philosophy, but off the court those guys were either lazy, thuggish, or both.
Don't worry, when this team starts winning again, the other cheek will turn in similar fashion.
drex? cliffy?
My point
Practice, for Drexler, was an optional thing.
Cliffy, within the black community at least, was known as a 'troubled' guy. My buddy's dad knew him and said he would always hit the bars after games and get into petty fights with people.
Kersey is probably as much of a 'malcontent' as Miles is: if the sex scandal that he and others were involved in in Utah happened in this era of losing and consistent negative media coverage, I'm sure he'd be ran out of town equally fast. I've never heard anything else bad about the guy, though.
I'm not calling these guys out, I'm just saying, let's not act like the Blazers of Rip City were model human beings. They were just a really, really good basketball team with an immense amount of fan support.
I'll take
I'm having trouble remembering which of those "rich punks" was involved in a night club shooting, drag racing down city streets, offering a trading card as ID, illegal dog fighting, carrying a gun on the team plane, trying to bring pot through an airport security check, or spitting on a fan. Can you help me out here?
I too have many memories...
by Oldskool Mick on Sep 30, 2006 10:48 AM PDT reply actions
good to "see" you again Dave
I too was a social misfit in HS. I can't agree with you more on how much things change once you hit the "real world". I was never a "nerd" in HS, but I definitely wasn't the "cool kid" either. But, I do take great joy when I go home for vacations and see the same "cool kids" from HS working at the gas station or grocery store or something because they thought cool could get them far and are still living on that creed. That's just me personally...
anyhow, on to my blazers memories...My parents weren't really sports fans at all. My dad all but forbode the TV to be on to football games, and he merely tolerated the Blazers games, and that was probably only because they were winning. However, they did have friends that were HUGE Blazers fans and has the Blazer-Cable season package. We would go to their house on some nights to watch the games and I thoroughly enjoyed that! See, they had NO kids, so whenever we would go over there for them to play cards or whatever, my sister and I would be BORED stiff with absolutely nothing to do. So, when the Blazers games were on it was very exciting because my dad was too stubborn to even get cable. I remember one night in particular, can't remember the year, probably sometime around 86 or 87, that we were playing LA. We actually beat them that night and we all went nuts! My mom was about as lively as i've ever seen her for the Blazers yelling at the TV over bad calls and what not. It was a great time and waking up the next morning the Z100 morning zoo had made a song, which in hindsight wasn't so creative, to the RUN-DMC song "U B IlliN" that sang out "We Beat L.A.". That was awesome! One of just the many memories I have of growing up the only true Blazers fan in my house. One of the very few where i can place my parents there next to me rooting for the home team too.
Since I didn't grow up...
Probably my best memory of early sports was due to my grandfather's love of baseball, the Astros in perticular.
My grand parents had an intercom system piped all through their house and Astro's games would always be broadcast throughout the place. My grandfather (actually, my step-grandfather, but that's another story) was also big in little league baseball and acted as an umpire for the North Houston American Little League.
He hasn't been a part of my life now for probably 35 years and I had forgotten what a big part he was until just now.
Thank you, Dave. I sincerely hope you and your family are hanging together and smiling at least a little bit through this tough time.
by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Sep 30, 2006 2:53 PM PDT reply actions
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True also what you say about media coverage and what was acceptable back then, but I also think that a lot of the reason we're unable to get that warm cuddly feeling about players and teams these days is because many of the players are treated as prima donnas from high school and don't understand what it means to live in as a normal member of adult society. As a result, many of them are simply so out of touch with their fans that it's almost impossible to relate to them.
I'm with ya..
You're right about NBAers not being predisposed to be prima donnas, but I think they way many of them (not all) get scooped up from the time that they are 13 and treated like celebrities makes it much harder for them to relate to the casual fan (and vice versa). The thing about the prima donnas in your office etc.. is that while they may be annoying, they're not surrounded by their posses telling them how wonderful they are all the time or high-power agents lining up sneaker deals and "fixing" any legal problems that might arise. It's just a different world...
My main point to all of this is that I think during the 70-mid 90's (before the NBA really took off) it seemed the players were more accessible and easier to relate to. I can remember going to Eastport Plaza with my sister and seeing an autograph signing with two of the Blazers (circa 78-79). There was no fancy pedestal, no photographers, no glitzy billboards or hip-hop music; just two of the players and one staffer sitting behind a folding table autographing posters for fans who had lined up to get one. That kind of innocence is what has been lost and (I think) what people are really pining about when they talk about the good ol' days.
were you all blind?
With postings about how "good" the past players were...with Clyde's "WIN AT ALL COSTS" mentality.
I have been going to games all of my 44 years...my first job was working at the MC for Blazer games in 76.
Doesnt anyone remember Jerome (who is one of my fav. players) being CAUGHT in a Denver hotel room with other players/frnds. and a handful of underage girls? (Oh it made the news....but isnt it amazing that when your winning...news like that doesnt get much coverage?)
Or....the 2 am bar brawls at the hip-hop /r&b nightclub over in NW PDX?
There sure wasnt much coverage or hoopla over Walton's touring with the Grateful Dead all over Europe and the middle east (this was when he was still a blazer...doing rehab...there was actually a pic of him in the "O" riding his bike in front of the pyramids with his Jerry Garcia shirt)
As far as "Win at all costs"....How often did you see Clyde dive to the floor? Can anyone tell me a particular time when he would stand up to someone that just smashed him to the floor? I loved Clyde's game...I went to every playoff game in town...but my most haunting memory is of him walking calmly off the court seconds after losing the championship (while Ainge was wiping his tears...Kersey Kicking the chair)...win at all costs...obviously you didnt really see.
by jameyemail on Oct 1, 2006 8:00 AM PDT reply actions
just for clarification...
None of which refutes your main point. I'm just trying to be more accurate. Kersey was definitley in the wrong as I point out in my "diary" to the side of this post.
by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Oct 1, 2006 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
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So true.
Hasn't it lately been generally accepted that Clyde is basically lazy and that his unwillingness to work hard and put in long hours was perhaps the biggest reason for his failure as the head basketball coach at the University of Houston. But yes, he was - and probably still is - a real gentleman.

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