Third Greatest Blazer Ever Contest: Final Quarterfinal
This is the last matchup in the first round of the Third Greatest Blazer ever contest. The voting in all four matchups will still be open throughout the weekend so feel free.
A side note: a few people have been commenting about what they see as lopsided matchups, particularly Lucas vs. Vandeweghe. Brief explanation...
--It seemed most fair to determine the matchups randomly, so that's what I did.
--Remember somebody has got to go against somebody. Statistically, and in many ways in terms of impact, these guys are all solidly in the Blazer Top 10. Who can help that some are closer to 10 and some are closer to 3? Besides, half the fun is seeing people try to justify the underdog. I suppose I could import some Laker greats if you want Lucas to go up against someone he has a chance to lose to in the first round.
--Really, if you look at what they did year-to-year as Blazers, while there is some separation it's not as great as people are making it in most of these cases...at least not a huge statistical separation. Some are giants because of what they did to help the team and some are just plain legends in our memory, but again, who can help that? (And that's also part of the fun anyway.)
OK, enough of that. Have at today's matchup:
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Vote for who progresses to the semi-finals in the comment section, with explanations if you feel they're warranted.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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Good matchup
TP hands down
Porter....
Rasheed could/can take over a game any time he wants and just doesn't want to.
It comes down to this, I don't want to play against Rasheed, but I want Porter on my team.
by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Dec 22, 2006 5:01 AM PST reply actions
Porter
TP, of course
Seeing him in those too-short "Memorable moments" reminded me of the intensity with which he played. Agree with those comments about "a true Blazer" - he's what I want my Blazers to be.
TP
by bothteamsplayedhard on Dec 22, 2006 7:39 AM PST reply actions
You should have had Sheed...
I know, it's all random...
by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Dec 22, 2006 9:23 AM PST up reply actions
I think
--Dave
What it comes down to for me...
As great a player as Sheed is, and he is a great player, Terry Porter is as close to "Mr. Blazer" as this team has had. He represents what I want the Blazers to be. Sheed does not.
Does that make it "clear"? As clear as "mud", anyway? Do you love it when people over use "quotation marks"?
by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Dec 22, 2006 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
"Yes"
However my question then is this:
Spirit and warmth and carrying the good name of the team are certainly legitmate criteria when determining your vote. But if that's the way it's going why did Zach Randolph mow over Jim Paxson the other day? Poor Jimmy got the shaft.
--Dave
I think Zach
by bothteamsplayedhard on Dec 22, 2006 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Sheed.
But, to be fair, it is only because of his leadership abilities.
They both were tremendous contributors to the community, you just never heard about Sheed's because he tried to keep everything as low key as possible and the media let him because they liked to focus on what a "bad guy" he was on the court.
Terry will always embody what i think a great Blazers player should be. Everytime i think back on the great teams i grew up on the first two things out of my mouth are ALWAYS "Clyde and Terry".
Porter
by TearsforDuckworth on Dec 22, 2006 10:39 AM PST reply actions
What if you just compared them at each position??
On the other hand, Rasheed was so darn exciting to watch. You knew that when Rasheed was on, you could count it in the books as a win. The thing I noticed most about Rasheed's play, was when he was on Defense, he would flash the passing lane just to remind opposing players that there was always the chance that he'd get is hands on the ball. He'd also fill the lane, skying for so many Alley-Oops that if he didn't get one during the game, then we knew it was going to be one. Rasheed brought so much energy to this team. If he hadn't burned his own bridge with his CTC remarks, he might have been placed closer to the top of the list of Blazer greats.
TP is the closest thing to Blazer perfection, in regards to representing the spirit of Rip City.
OK...
Thesis: Rasheed Wallace is/was a better individual player than Terry Porter.
Agree? Disagree? Why?
--Dave
disagree...
All the talent in the world (and Sheed has just that) don't mean a thing if you aren't on the floor.
Again, it's about representing, for me anyway.
As for Paxson and Zach, well, I'm still mad at Paxson for beating us in the fourth quarter when he was with Chicago.
(It's a joke.)
by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Dec 22, 2006 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Yes! I can see your point.
--Dave
rasheed
People forget that if not for lids being put on the basket in the 4th quarter on June 4, 2000 Rasheed would have had a 40 pt game in a game 7 on the road. He played an incredible series to that point (really he was awesome all year- and was rewarded by being the last blazer to appear in any all star weekend event).
I know, shoulda coulda woulda. Rasheed missed some easy shots in that awful collapse and was never the same in a Portland uniform. However, as great as TP was, he didn't always come up huge in the playoffs either- see 1991 west finals game 6.
Both were great players who just missed leading the franchise to glory. I can certainly understand and respect everyone for giving the nod to TP for his leadership and character.
I'll give the nod to Rasheed on shear ability to wow a crowd and dominate a game when he set his mind to it.
(if this was a closer race, i might consider changing my vote though- how's that for hedging my bets).

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